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Aaron Wan-Bissaka | The Ornacle speaks: It is done.
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Wouldn't be surprised to see Solskjaer push Dalot further forward if this happens. He looked far more comfortable going forward last season, and was caught out a lot at the back.
Millwall.
The lads whole family support Arsenal. If Kroenke allowed Arsenal to spend a few bob, they might have had a good chance of signing him.
Carshalton Athletic I would hope.I'm a Croydon boy and guess who I support
Our RB is much bigger problem than our LW. Dalot isn’t ready for that RB role, AWB was one of the best RBs in the league last season while we had Young.
Our front line won't be able to score 15 goals a season if Dalot/James/Rashford together are a consistent part of our attack.
We're lacking goal threats. Dalot at RW is definitely not the answer. We need someone like Pepe/Thauvin to help the goal scoring burden from out wide.
Brighton and Spurs
Aye they're my local team sure enough
"Most remarkable is the ease with which he has taken to the Premier League. At 14 there had been a debate at Palace as to whether Wan-Bissaka, a quiet, gangly kid, should be retained. By early 2017 the boyhood Arsenal supporter was still essentially striving to make his mark at a club brimming with wingers"
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-crystal-palace-interview-best-tackler-europe
Not sure I agree, I guess it depends on the role we see James having and how he adapts. I'm not against the signing of AWB in and of itself, I just wouldn't want to see other, more pressing areas neglected in order to secure him.
I don't think he'd "replace" Dalot, we simply need another fullback. Valencia is gone, Young is not good enough and Darmian is practically gone too. That leaves us with Shaw, Dalot, Young and a bunch of kids who need more time (Laird, O'Connor).
and who knows, maybe Ole wants to move Dalot to RW. He was good going forward but suspect defensively.
I sincerely hope that James takes the league by a storm but I think we will have to be patient. This team needs 300m this summer to solve many problematic areas, Woodward needs to back his shit talking.
Leicester have two fantastic attacking fullbacks in Pereira & Chilwell.
How would a fullback pairing of Shaw and Wan Bissaka compare to their Leicester counterparts?
The Leicester duo are comfortably better IMO.
How would a fullback pairing of Shaw and Wan Bissaka compare to their Leicester counterparts?
The Leicester duo are comfortably better IMO.
Not well, not well at all. Totally agree. Think this is inevitable but until it's confirmed, I still hope we see sense and target an attacking RB.
Pereira is extremely suspect defensively, I wouldn't have him here. Chilwell I'd agree is superior to Shaw.
I don't even rate Chilwell that highly yet I agree Leicesters duo is better.
Better going forward perhaps, defending not so much.
I don't particularly rate Shaw and I think he will end up being replaced sooner than later as well.
Lets hope. He profits from other positions needing more care. I hope next summer we finally buy a proper LB with some attacking nous
Neither Chilwell not Pereira can really defend.
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We need a new LB to compete and take over from Shaw . He isn't that good so if we got an attacking LB on that side we'll do fine.
Not sure about Pereyra and you typically need more than a season to properly evaluate but Chillwell is class. I have a feeling Leicester can genuinely threaten the top 6 again next season but that's a debate for a different thread.
My favourite two points if true:
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"In terms of AWBs offense, he has great ball control and is fairly quick. He engaged in 7.27 offensive duals a game. For comparison, Walker and Alexander-Arnold failed to engage in 5 per game."
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"He made an average of 2.12 crosses per game with a 33% crossing accuracy. Let’s compare once again, with the premier league’s “best” crosser Alexander-Arnold who had the exact same crossing %."
Shaw and Wan Bissaka are more dependable defenders and better ball carriers in attacking transitions. Arguably the best in the league in those two respects.
Chilwell and Pereira have better final balls, but that's not the be all and end all for a fullback to be top class.
As ever, people are getting wrapped up in the idea of fashionable formations. There's no such thing as 'modern' football as distinct from what's come before it in the last 3 decades. There are only successful teams that play a strategy that gets the most out of their individuals, and those that don't. 'Modern' football evolves by virtue of managers trying to do something different from the norm.
United following the tactics of Pep or Klopp won't guarantee winning football. What Ole has to do is build a squad of top class players and construct a gameplan that gets the most out of those players whilst minimising their weaknesses. Wan Bissaka can easily be a factor in that.
AWB has as much quality as any fullback in the league. If we can come up with a tactic that leverages his positive qualities as much as possible, he'll be a massive success. All he needs is the right RCM and RW ahead of him, and in return he can be the perfect RB behind them.
Sweet Jesus.. That man ran down the flanks as though he was on supplementary oxygen. He was awesome going forward.
It’s clear that Solskjaer doesn’t see Dalot as the solution at right back. Accepting the fact that Dalot is not going to get a run there consistently, yes we need a new right back and Wan-Bissaka should be a good, solid signing (more broadly, an attempt to stabilise our very shaky back line is a good thing).
Solskjaer could, however, commit to playing Dalot as first-choice right back and then having the likes of Young and the kids as backup options becomes adequate, a new signing in that area becomes unnecessary, and the £50 million can be put to use elsewhere. Dalot is a good young player, highly technical for a full back - a quality delivery and a certain grace in how he moves with the ball. Though he’s not the best defender he’s not exactly a train wreck - he is weak in the classic sense that attacking fullbacks are (and most of his problem stem from positional issues and the likes - very coachable), and he has a potentially great attacking game.
Looks like we're going all in then. I have to admit I'm more than a bit skeptical about his attacking game but he does look very defensively assured, particularly in one v ones.
I suppose the positives of this are we're looking to get our business done early and that Ashley Young shouldn't have much of a future here next season.
I suppose the positives of this are we're looking to get our business done early and that Ashley Young shouldn't have much of a future here next season.
He may well have Dalot as a winger, with AWB overlapping. AWB was a winger, and Dalot can adequately cover when needed.
It's not a big step up in quality but natural width can go a long way in providing additional threat. Especially if Bruno comes in, we'd need to make the pitch as wide as possible to free up the pot shots
It's not a big step up in quality but natural width can go a long way in providing additional threat. Especially if Bruno comes in, we'd need to make the pitch as wide as possible to free up the pot shots
It's weird because I'm largely impressed by his dribbling capabilities. He's so assured on the ball and glides past multiple players with some ease for a full back.
Klopp bought Clyne for big money and move him when TAA step up.
If any of the internal options become than AWB the they'll play and replace him.
Also, there's some serious overrating Dalot and his attacking output on this thread. He's not good enough yet.
Bloody hell I didn’t know those stats. I wanted him anyway but certainly even more so after reading that.
No he didn't. Rodgers bought Clyne.
Chilwell in particular is far better at carrying the ball forward than Shaw, and I’d say Pereira is arguably superior to AWB too in that respect.
No fullbacks are better than AWB and Shaw defensively though, which is not to be sniffed at. In the PL, most attacking threat and star offensive players come from wide.
Ok, but still the point remains. You don't pass on the opportunity to buy on of the best players in the league just because what you currently have might be good enough
I think the reason for that is most attacking teams have their own full backs pushed up & are far more concerned with trying to score themselves.
Looks like the Wan-Bissaka deal is on. Reading reports yesterday about "MUFC needing to find a compromise" after getting a bid rejected, only spurred on my thoughts that Wan-Bissaka is a key target. Likely a briefing by Palace to soften the blow and highlight they got more money for him. Hope it's wrapped up before tour or before anyone else gets a sniff.
Also, can we stop with the "BACK IN MY DAY" BS about transfer fees? Smaller clubs are richer, they know the value of their players, they create contracts that exploit that value, and no one needs to sell. What do some of you think happens in an environment like that? That Fees remain static?
Painting a picture of the players some of you want, we'd be buying 4 players for 15m each because they seem like value.
Next season is about bringing in enough talent to maintain 6th as another rebuild begins. If you think we're maintain 6th with value signings, i'd like to sell you some magic beans.
Also, can we stop with the "BACK IN MY DAY" BS about transfer fees? Smaller clubs are richer, they know the value of their players, they create contracts that exploit that value, and no one needs to sell. What do some of you think happens in an environment like that? That Fees remain static?
Painting a picture of the players some of you want, we'd be buying 4 players for 15m each because they seem like value.
Next season is about bringing in enough talent to maintain 6th as another rebuild begins. If you think we're maintain 6th with value signings, i'd like to sell you some magic beans. We're not signing one of the best players in the league. We're signing a player who we hope might end up being one of the best players in the league, but has a huge question mark over one of the most important aspects of a modern fullbacks game.
He's one of the best in the league in his position. I'd have him 2nd behind TAA from last season.
What question mark is that?
According to Whoscored, Wan-Bissaka attempted 1.6 crosses per 90, completing just 0.3 for an accuracy of 18.75%. TAA attempted 7.3 crosses per 90, completing 2.1 with a 28.77% accuracy. Luke Shaw attempted 1.8, completing 0.5 per 90 - 27.78% accuracy. Ashley Young attempted 6.9, completing 1.5 per 90 - 21.74%.
Where did that the tweeter get his stats from?
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