Ed Woodward 2019 - Until all Arctic ice melts edition

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Are there more sources? United usually ignore news.
The way I see it, the club briefed the press early this year about hiring a DoF and now the club is briefing that there won't be structural changes.

The other outlets refer to the Mail article. I think it's hubris that's making Ed cling on to power. I don't think he'd ignore this if it was inaccurate.
 

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The way I see it, the club briefed the press early this year about hiring a DoF and now the club is briefing that there won't be structural changes.

The other outlets refer to the Mail article. I think it's hubris that's making Ed cling on to power. I don't think he'd ignore this if it was inaccurate.
If it's just the mail, my point still stands. The club normally brief multiple outlets if news is true or they want something out there.

Daily mail and other tabloids often make stuff up.

We may not end up with a DoF. But I wouldn't use a DM article as evidence.
 

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If it's just the mail, my point still stands. The club normally brief multiple outlets if news is true or they want something out there.

Daily mail and other tabloids often make stuff up.

We may not end up with a DoF. But I wouldn't use a DM article as evidence.
I'm going by the lack of reaction by the club. Would be the easiest thing to brief, no actually, club is definitely hiring a DoF. Not like the club needs more negativity whilst trying to convince recruits that all is going to be well at OT.
 

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If he delivers Barella / Ndombele/ Bruno / Sancho / AWB/ Delegit by selling Pogba(who wants to leave) and Lukaku along with Matic/Fred/Darmian/Young/Baily
/Jones/Rojo then I will have his poster in my room

I hope he would sign both AWB and Aaron plus One of Haller or Werner to complete the squad revamp.
 

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i can see why Woodward jumped at the chance to sign up Ole without even looking at other options. If he had to work with the likes of Zidane, Woodward would actually have to prove himself. Madrid have an awful season and already have bought FIVE upgrades. Woodward can't even settle a deal quickly for the likes of AWB. It seemingly takes multiple weeks and multiple bids to secure an english prospect from the same league?

Christ Woodward.
 

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i can see why Woodward jumped at the chance to sign up Ole without even looking at other options. If he had to work with the likes of Zidane, Woodward would actually have to prove himself. Madrid have an awful season and already have bought FIVE upgrades. Woodward can't even settle a deal quickly for the likes of AWB. It seemingly takes multiple weeks and multiple bids to secure an english prospect from the same league?

Christ Woodward.
Honestly it's pathetic how little ambition there is at this club.
 

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i can see why Woodward jumped at the chance to sign up Ole without even looking at other options. If he had to work with the likes of Zidane, Woodward would actually have to prove himself. Madrid have an awful season and already have bought FIVE upgrades. Woodward can't even settle a deal quickly for the likes of AWB. It seemingly takes multiple weeks and multiple bids to secure an english prospect from the same league?

Christ Woodward.
The summer of 2013 set the tone. The most glaringly needed rebuilding summer since the 1980’s, and we spent all of it haggling over Fellaini and failing all other targets. At the end Ed panicked and paid more than his release clause to end up with even a single signing.
 

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2 months to sign one kid from Swansea. Well done Woodward.

Meanwhile Real Madrid with the big club mentality and knowing that they need to restructure the team have signed 6 players. 0 plan, 0 transfer strategy.

We are a joke of a club. The laughing stock of football with Arsenal at the moment.
 

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Some guys actually think that Ed Woodward is not to blame and that is a major mistake, that is the same arsehole who helped the Glazers in their hostile takeover of the club, and he is now our DOF, how has that worked out over the last seasons? We have gone from being top dogs to be scraping for scraps. Some idiots seem to want to defend Ed Woodward, I ask how can you defend such a person unless you are him. He has helped with the takeover in order that he can become the CEO. And since that has happened United have become shit. Manchester United are currently a mid table team in England, can the Glazers keep us there or will they let us go even lower?
Quite now or Johan07 will come for you!
 

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Sure, why not?

I like how you avoid answering my question...

If a manager demands a player be kept by giving them a new deal and the board reluctantly agree, who is at fault?

No one wants to answer it because they know the foundation of that error is with the manager and it diverts blame away from Woodward and that completely goes against their blind, illogical hatred.
That you think it’s the managers choice to renew contracts speaks volumes. It’s this that should end the conversation irrespective of whether Ed should go or not.
 

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2 months to sign one kid from Swansea. Well done Woodward.

Meanwhile Real Madrid with the big club mentality and knowing that they need to restructure the team have signed 6 players. 0 plan, 0 transfer strategy.

We are a joke of a club. The laughing stock of football with Arsenal at the moment.
Yes I suspect Konkhead is milking them (Arsenal) for his American project
 

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Well lets really bring it down to its bare bones shall we?

  • Did he hire the best men that were available at the given time of recruitment? Their (LVG & Jose) CV's backed it up. Yes
  • Did he give them freedom to conduct their own structure within the club? Playing style, coaching staff, scouting etc? Yes.
  • Did he financially support both men? £250m approx for LVG & £350m for Jose...basically impossible to suggest he hasn't here. So its a resounding Yes.
  • Did he offer to hire a DoF to aide Jose? Story goes yes he did. Jose fell out with the Real DoF (previously) and we've interviewed former players about taking a TD role so it seems there is some genuine truth to it.
For me personally, he's failed in not rolling out a DoF structure with LVG's appointment and changing from LVG to Jose, by that I mean it was a complete 180 in ideals at the club. It undone all the work over 2 years.

LVG rolled out structure across the club, invested in youth with possession based football and long term goals in mind vs ignored the club structure, ignored youth and went for short term results based on conceding possession.
I would vehemently disagree with point one. Van Gaal was about to retire so unless there was a plan to bring in a dynamic manager who played in a similar mold his hiring was a mistake.

Mourinho being hired was a colossal mistake because of what happened at Chelsea and Madrid. Sure they won but then things became nuclear toxic at both clubs because of Jose.

The problem again goes back to not having a DoF put into place before Fergie left.

You put a DoF in place like Tito that is respected and maybe you get Pep or Klopp and avoid all this mess. Certainly nothing is guaranteed.

Van Gaal + Mourinho were terrible hires because they didn’t fit the direction needed for the club and both were short term answers bereft of long term Vision.

Points 2-4 are true but it is all for naught when you make two terrible managerial selections and still have no clue what is you are trying to achieve.

This was further compounded by hiring sentimental favorite who has shown nothing to suggest that he is capable.
 

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Look at the positive you all......much much money will we cash in this window....

Pogba: 150m
Lukaku: 60-70m
De Gea: 60m

And in James: 15m

We will be so much richer ..... wooooooohooooooooo....

It’s just that we may end outside TOP 10 but who gives a stuff ....

Seriously this guy needs to step down from any football responsibilities.... he doesn’t know anything about how Football works....

It’s 8 weeks to go and we are so far behind.... how can a manager plan when he doesn’t know which players he will get?????

How pathetic is our scouting..... not a since gem in last 10 years...... not one single.....???? How is that even possible?

I really feel bad for our supporters, they deserve much better
 

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Who is actually in charge of recruitment / dismissals at our club?

In a traditional business the glazers have the ultimate say on everything whether it's the ceo, the chairman, the manager, the goalkeeping coach, the nutritionist or even the grounds man, dont they?

If Woodward carries on increasing the commercial value of the club then he will stay put wont he?

I reckon Woodward as we currently know him would not exist in fergie's time. His input would be laughed at unless it involved sponsorship deals.

I cant see him budging unless there is serious protest against him but do the majority of united fans (match going or not) even realise how much he is to blame for our downfall?



Please enlighten me but if you are just assuming then also please let that be known.
 

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It will be sad when Ole, a club legend, will take most of the flak if he fails and this clown will again be sitting and doing absolutely nothing.
 

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He literally does not care one jot about our footballing progress. And our owners allow and facilitate that
 

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If he doens't get enough quality in this summer he should get chucked out on his ear. Enough with the bullshit.
 

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He literally does not care one jot about our footballing progress. And our owners allow and facilitate that
It was a hostile takeover and now it is showing itself to be just that, it is a money grab from the club, and nothing else. The biggest enemies of Manchester United as a football club right now are not Manchester City or Liverpool, it is the Glazer family and in particular the guy who has helped them take over the club and is the current CEO, and also DOF of United. His name is Ed Woodward and you can see him at many matches looking like he gives a shit after a bad performance by twisting his multi coloured scarf in knots and making a face. The guy does not give a shit about United as a football team.
 

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The pursuit of Maguire sums up Woodward Ineptitude with the football side of things, wouldn't agree to sign Maguire last season at a cheaper price when Mourinho wanted him because he thought we had good enough options already than to be spending 50+ million on a defender but now he's happy to go back in for him with 20-30 million added to his value because of seeing how well VVD has turned out for Liverpool in typical reactionary Woodward fashion that we have come to expect from the him.
 

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If he doens't get enough quality in this summer he should get chucked out on his ear. Enough with the bullshit.
True fans can make their voice heard by boycotting matches and not buying shirts, but the major problem remains and that is that most people have no clue what is going on and will continue to support these arseholes.
 

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2 months to sign one kid from Swansea. Well done Woodward.

Meanwhile Real Madrid with the big club mentality and knowing that they need to restructure the team have signed 6 players. 0 plan, 0 transfer strategy.

We are a joke of a club. The laughing stock of football with Arsenal at the moment.
We have a strategy. Don't buy many players or spend too much. The season tickets are in,job done. People need to stop thinking Ed is clueless. This isn't him being inept,quite the opposite. He's excelling at his mission.....to save money and line the pockets of his bosses. The man is the complete opposite of clueless.
 

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Appointing Ole as the perceived ‘cheap option’ may well be a big mistake for Woodward.
The majority of same United fans love Ole and if he isn’t backed in a way it was made clear by Ole himself, then it will turn sour on the board long before fans turn on Ole should we not push in next season.
The last few managers took the brunt of fans anger. I don’t think Ole will, unless he gets backed well and messes it up.
 

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2 months to sign one kid from Swansea. Well done Woodward.

Meanwhile Real Madrid with the big club mentality and knowing that they need to restructure the team have signed 6 players. 0 plan, 0 transfer strategy.

We are a joke of a club. The laughing stock of football with Arsenal at the moment.
Calm down...we've made an inquiry re a certain Sean Longstaff...
 

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We have a strategy. Don't buy many players or spend too much. The season tickets are in,job done. People need to stop thinking Ed is clueless. This isn't him being inept,quite the opposite. He's excelling at his mission.....to save money and line the pockets of his bosses. The man is the complete opposite of clueless.
Nail on the head.
 

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Christ there’s some kids in here tonight.
 

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We have a strategy. Don't buy many players or spend too much. The season tickets are in,job done. People need to stop thinking Ed is clueless. This isn't him being inept,quite the opposite. He's excelling at his mission.....to save money and line the pockets of his bosses. The man is the complete opposite of clueless.
More like Clouseau. Peter Sellers would have done a better job.
 

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This is the guy who handed the club to the Glazers, and now he is in charge of it. Incredible
Whilst filling the pockets of his previous employers PWC with audit payments to over £800000 a year. Quiet incredible indeed.

Sounds more like a con man tbh.
 

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Whilst filling the pockets of his previous employers PWC with audit payments to over £800000 a year. Quiet incredible indeed.

Sounds more like a con man tbh.
I am all for criticising the guy but some of the posts here are baseless.

For example a single google search -

  • Public company survey respondents. The 2017 FERF survey, which covers 2016 audit costs, found that, for 161 public company survey respondents, audit fees averaged $7.4 million, with a median fee of $2.8 million. The median audit fee rose 1.3 percent, compared to a 1.6 percent increase in 2015. The survey respondent average audit fee was up 6.9 percent, compared to a 2015 increase of 4.5 percent.