You need to keep Rashford - would be a shocking decision to sell him on - he is a young talented player that has come through the club - you need more like him not less.
The thought of losing Rashford
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Agree 100%. Can't believe the Rashford hate honestly. It's ridiculous.
We're turning into Arsenal TV
This forum is toxic. There is also a massive hate for English players - which I find extremely strange, given the location of Manchester... I suppose it’s one of the effects of a ‘global’ fan base. You won’t hear this utter bollocks around OT, added to that the Internet polarises everything.
Rashford isint suddenly going to turn into Ronaldo, it’s also not the reincarnation of Emile Heskey, he’s somewhere on the spectrum invetween.
Let’s just sit back, see how he does and how he develops. He’s a big part of the club, and it’s extremely unlikely he’s going anywhere.
Marcus Rashford is ranked highly by some football/sports journalists and commentators. It's not just a case of he's local talent, has potential - he is one of England's top prospects. I have faith Ole has prioritized him and will do what he needs to keep Marcus at United.
The odds are even better if Rio Ferdinand is given a role at United - for example Technical Director. A proven winner, lifted his game even more for the big occasions, a Cockney lad who turned out to be as much a Red Devil as the other Cockney Red David Beckham, a vital part of our later success under Sir Alex.
If Rio comes back to United, expected Marcus and Jesse to lift their game and not only playing-wise.
The odds are even better if Rio Ferdinand is given a role at United - for example Technical Director. A proven winner, lifted his game even more for the big occasions, a Cockney lad who turned out to be as much a Red Devil as the other Cockney Red David Beckham, a vital part of our later success under Sir Alex.
If Rio comes back to United, expected Marcus and Jesse to lift their game and not only playing-wise.
Amen to that - but please don't tell us to take Gareth Bale!
There is no massive hate for English players. It's made up in your head. This is the same forum that loves AWB and Sancho.
English players "who play for us", is a definite thing.
Check the stick lingard rashy jones smalling and young get
Might have something to do with quality and people being impatient in regards to Rashford. I don't see any hate that's out of the ordinary in comparison to say Martial or Pogba.
So that's Adam Crafton another who has said the Barcelona interest in Rashford is real. So that's most of Catalan and English media who say there's interest.
Meanwhile United fans : "There's no truth in the reports that Barcelona is interested in Rashford". It's very similar to comical ali now.
Meanwhile United fans : "There's no truth in the reports that Barcelona is interested in Rashford". It's very similar to comical ali now.
I say stop thinking it. Now way United will ever entertain the thought of letting him go. I fully expect him to renew with United.
Well i would say they deserve it. Coincidence that these are the shittiest players of the squad? Rashford and Smalling aside
Proved my point - well done.
You can spin it in any way to suit your agenda but you seriously have your head buried in sand if you call out someone who is criticizing the players responsible for us ending up in EL places.
Well done indeed.
Our management of contracts is appalling.
I don't remember any of this happening under David Gill.
I don't remember any of this happening under David Gill.
How much is Rashford paid these days, and how much does he want to re-new his contract? Will the increase in his wages have the same effect on his performances? Simple logic is - the better you play, the more you are paid. The main thing is to make sure that Rashford, Martial, Pogba et all play well and improve our league position. If they do, no one would care how much they are paid. Jlings and Rashy need to realize that 0.0123% is not something to brag about. Man Utd are one in a million club for them, so the lads need to be Man Utd level players. Virgil Van Dijk had more influence on Pool that Jlings, Rashy and Martial combined. We have 0 players at the club bar DeGea and Pogba (maybe at a push), who we are lucky to have at the club. Most of our players are super lucky to be playing for United.
I don't think anyone is criticizing any one of our players because they're English FFS get a grip. I'm English and all our players are equal regardless of nationality to me. We have United fans from around the world on this forum supporting a English club, but they're then accused of hating the English.
I don't think it's that per se.I don't think anyone is criticizing any one of our players because they're English FFS get a grip. I'm English and all our players are equal regardless of nationality to me. We have United fans from around the world on this forum supporting a English club, but they're then accused of hating the English.
It's more the fact that United have been a club that did things a certain way & to a lot of us - that is what made this club stick out from the rest.
Whilst no doubt we can't be a club that aims to 100% stick by the ways of the past - neither can we completely obliterate the things we stand for and believe in.
The way some fans talk about United seems to want us to turn to 100% Chelsea, PSG & Man City - when some of us would like to learn from some of the new clubs abilities but carry on some of the DNA we have built over the years.
Completely indifferent. He's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. Good potential but if he wants out then so be it.
Rio, Roy Keane, Rooney, Ronaldo. Tge list is endless.
I don't think it's that per se.I don't think anyone is criticizing any one of our players because they're English FFS get a grip. I'm English and all our players are equal regardless of nationality to me. We have United fans from around the world on this forum supporting a English club, but they're then accused of hating the English.
It's more the fact that United have been a club that did things a certain way & to a lot of us - that is what made this club stick out from the rest.
Whilst no doubt we can't be a club that aims to 100% stick by the ways of the past - neither can we completely obliterate the things we stand for and believe in.
The way some fans talk about United seems to want us to turn to 100% Chelsea, PSG & Man City - when some of us would like to learn from some of the new clubs abilities but carry on some of the DNA we have built over the years.
If Mason keeps progressing as we all hope, Marcus might not be first choice centre forward in 2 years time anyway, but I would still hope he signs a new contract and we have luxury of deciding, if he stayed or left.
They are all average to terrible footballers though. It makes it hard to like them
After watching him in those last few games, his attitude stank. I don't care if he's a Manc. I don't want players at the club who don't put in the effort. I used to like him, but he believes his own hype. He's still work in progress. One of a few in those games.
He had good spells earlier in the season but towards the end he was absolutely abysmal, sometimes you just need your striker to pull out out the bag and score a couple of bangers to get you out of a rut bit none of our lot especially rashford couldn't do it
Whilst the thought of losing Rashford doesn't exactly fill me with dread, he's not someone we should be looking to bin off.
He's a good player, and he's still young. Lacks composure, and that we're relying on him already because we know nobody else is really going to contribute is probably putting too much pressure on him. Generally, he's one of the few whose attitude during a match you couldn't question, maybe that waned at the end of the season but it's not like he's at the Martial/Pogba level in terms of attitude.
Given time, he'll come good. Wish he'd learn not to shoot from 40 yards though.
He's a good player, and he's still young. Lacks composure, and that we're relying on him already because we know nobody else is really going to contribute is probably putting too much pressure on him. Generally, he's one of the few whose attitude during a match you couldn't question, maybe that waned at the end of the season but it's not like he's at the Martial/Pogba level in terms of attitude.
Given time, he'll come good. Wish he'd learn not to shoot from 40 yards though.
The thought of losing Rashford.. well yeah I don't lose much sleep to be fair. I want him to stay, but if eh thinks he is too good for this team he is in serious denial.
Rashford will be at a club of Newcastles/West Ham stature within 3 years and all this talk of world class potential will be massively laughed at.
He won't be. Nailed on to follow Lingard and stay at the club forever.
Well yeah you are probably right because we will have him on stupidly high wages and can't get rid OR United will be West Ham/Newcastle stature!
I got the feeling he was carrying a little knock towards the end of the season. I hope so anyway because something seemed off. Next season is a big one for him. Hope he comes good.
This is just embarassing.
http://www.sportbible.com/football/...rashford-and-still-scored-more-goals-20190612
A fecking CB scores more goals than you. And apparently fans are too harsh on this guy.
http://www.sportbible.com/football/...rashford-and-still-scored-more-goals-20190612
A fecking CB scores more goals than you. And apparently fans are too harsh on this guy.
Couldn't care less either way. I don't like him and I don't massively rate him either.
So what... Steve Bruce scored around 19 goals for us in one season. Brilliantly pointless comparison. It’s not embarrassing, unlike our fans.
It's pure underrating them.
I had this argument with a United "fan" at work today.
Smalling wouldn't get into Leicester's team he argued.
I pointed out Evans, who we shipped out for being utterly dreadful plays for them.
"Oh yeah" he realised.
The perception of Evans now we don't want every moment of his, is that he's a good defender again.
If we brought him back it'd be back to how he generally was for us. Not better than Smalling, like most centre backs in England.
Terrible username, terrible post.
Firmino scores less than a lot of strikers at worse teams. Is he a lesser player?
Using outlier stats isn't a clever way to judge a player.
it's like the guy who was arguing Wan Bissaka is one of the best in Europe! Just because a few stats come out high!
Should definitely keep him but should also stop treating him like the Messiah. He is a good prospect but is not yet there till he makes fundamental changes to his thought process. I rate Martial far highly when it comes to footballing brain.
The fact that you’re having to resort to arguing whether the best player of that lot would get into Leicester’s team proves @kouroux ’s point.
I think I'm being fairly kind and honest when I say they all rank from average to terrible footballers
Well, he posed the question and I laughed at him with the above logic why it's laughable!
I think most of us on the forum like our history of having a significant base of British and Irish players. The class of '92 was amazing, in fact I have Gary Neville and Paul Scholes on my all-time starting 11, however, that class was an anomaly .
In today's world the successful clubs are superclubs in that they have enough money to buy success. Instead of producing players from their academies or buying young players with potential the superclubs are buying the best players in the world.
In today's world why should we make a player of Rashford's standard our main striker? if he were at any other club would we be clamouring to acquire him?
I think not.
We are routinely in the top 5 richest sports clubs in the world so we should be buying the best players in the world no matter where they are from. I know buying success goes against the grain for most of us but if we are to be successful we need to buy the best and if a great player comes through our academy well that's just a bonus.
That being said you don't sell a Pogba-type player. You surround him players of his talent who have strengths that make up for his weaknesses.
In today's world the successful clubs are superclubs in that they have enough money to buy success. Instead of producing players from their academies or buying young players with potential the superclubs are buying the best players in the world.
In today's world why should we make a player of Rashford's standard our main striker? if he were at any other club would we be clamouring to acquire him?
I think not.
We are routinely in the top 5 richest sports clubs in the world so we should be buying the best players in the world no matter where they are from. I know buying success goes against the grain for most of us but if we are to be successful we need to buy the best and if a great player comes through our academy well that's just a bonus.
That being said you don't sell a Pogba-type player. You surround him players of his talent who have strengths that make up for his weaknesses.