Definitely. I'd accept a high cash deal, but we'd need to sign up replacements first. We need midfielders already, so the cash needs to go on that."Would you sell him for £150m?" would definitely be a better poll.
What are you on about? He was our best player last season and voted into the PFA team of the year.If we get a sensible bid, £100m plus and he wants to leave, I’d let him go without a second thought. It’s not worked out for either party, take the money back and try a different approach. I’m not into slating him for the social media stuff etc but I wouldn’t want anyone to be at the club who didn’t want to be, that included Ronaldo who was the best player I’ve ever seen at United.
Pogba was, along with Shaw, our best player for the first month or so of the season. And then, after a bad period (no worse than anyone else was), he was once again along with Martial our best player for another month or so. This way that I see people on here or people in the media going on about him being terrible all season until Ole took over is simply wrong.And the first 3 months of the season. And most of the 2 years before that. It's not like he's winning us games, if we're to be shit anyway I'd prefer be shit with players I actually like.
Pogba came to us because he believed we were turning the corner and heading back to being a successful club. We hired Mourinho, we signed Pogba and Zlatan, it all looked like we were on the way back. Unfortunately as we all know it went to shit and he's ended up 'wasting' three years of his career at a club which has been terribly run. Obviously the money we offered him helped, but I'd be almost certain that we would offer him more now to stay than what he'd get at Real/Juve if he does leave.No, we fecked up signing a player who acted like he had unfinished business in a club he cared about but in truth was only chasing money. I doubt he’s too bothered about it considering Raiola is already engineering his next payday.
You have no idea what my point is in that caseNot the best example to back up your point tbf.
He was our best player in about 7 games total. He was probably our worst player in about the same.What are you on about? He was our best player last season and voted into the PFA team of the year.
Only at Utd will someone say our best player hasn't fecking worked out.
What's this based on? Keep seeing people say it without any real evidence or logic.I believe this is what he and his agent has planned from the start.. here for 3 years then on to Spain, even if we was winning stuff.
Unless they bid 180m pounds cash.Media newspapers are unreliable no matter what country. In spanish media Pogba to Real is a done deal, but after what they spent with Hazard I find it hard to believe.
They won't. They already made their top transfer with Hazard. Real is always a big spender, but they also sell big (even reserve players get sold by 15M + 50% future transfer + Buyback clauses, for example).Unless they bid 180m pounds cash.
Not gonna say Isco is amazing, nor have i seen a ton of Real matches, but when I've seen Isco he was both hard working and creative. If he still is, I have no idea, but he used to be real class at some point. And if Pogba is leaving, creativity will have to be replaced, either from the midfield or the attack. There are of course better options out there, but if Real cant afford to pay asking price, then you might be stuck with a unhappy player in the dressing room.Replace Pogba with Isco? It’s a terrible idea and goes against everything you was blabbing on about before. Tell me how Isco fits and how he works harder than Pogba? Real Madrid flipping can’t get rid of him. Pretty much says it all.
Madrid would accept that deal. Modric is still a useful player, but he's 33, and Bale has been a general flop for the price he costed them, and bare in mind Pogba is still yooung.He stays unless we get a reasonable offer. He's too good to let go on the cheap. Modric bale and 50 mil and madrid can have him
So the Spanish press is inventing stories out of their arse.They won't. They already made their top transfer with Hazard. Real is always a big spender, but they also sell big (even reserve players get sold by 15M + 50% future transfer + Buyback clauses, for example).
That would be an awful deal for us. Don’t want any of their players. Varane is the only one of their players I’d be interested in and that ain’t happening.Madrid would accept that deal. Modric is still a useful player, but he's 33, and Bale has been a general flop for the price he costed them, and bare in mind Pogba is still yooung.
Yep, we really don't want a half assed, sulking Pogba as the basis to build a new team around.I defended Pogba even in this very thread but once he publicly stated he wanted out then we should let him go. I don't trust a player who wants out irrespective who he is. I hope we'll get the fee we want. If not then we should consider making it fees + players. I don't mind a 60m + Dybala + Cancelo bid for example.
Just guesswork. I think he wanted Madrid over us from the beginning.What's this based on? Keep seeing people say it without any real evidence or logic.
We better bring players in before we sell, the market will pocket full of cash will just raise their demands when we go in to buy after sales.I would sell him for £150 million, as long as the money would be added to the transfer budget. We should already have a 200 million plus budget add a Pogba, Lukaku and the money from a few other sales and there would be over 400 million to spend. Even in this crazy market that is enough to put us on the right track and then some.
Well, that's another way of viewing it if you prefer not to credit Pogba. I was only trying to point out how important he is to the team and why we should try to replace him with very good players if he is leaving. That he didn't get POTY probably had more to do with sentiments.I don't disagree that he's our most talented player but it's more about our other players being poor rather than Pogba being that good this season. It's telling he didn't get our players' player or even fans player of the year.
According to Whoscored, right?He was our best player in about 7 games total. He was probably our worst player in about the same.
Do you seriously expect any club even a desperate Madrid to come up with such an offer?Unless they bid 180m pounds cash.
Didn't Chelsea finish 3rd last season? Where was relegation in that?90% of the time? When’s the last time Hazard has turned up against us? 90% of the time? He was in a team that was close to relegation, was no where near us the season before and this season is probably the worst Chelsea teams I’ve witnessed under Ambramovic. Infact it is the worst.
You don't get player of the year based on numbers and stats but on consistency reliability and quality. Just because he took penalty duties he was the top scorer in out team " which he is boasting about in his interview" which shows his mentality and way of evaluating himself and his performances.That he didn't get POTY probably had more to do with sentiments.
Who deserved it then?You don't get player of the year based on numbers and stats but on consistency reliability and quality. Just because he took penalty duties he was the top scorer in out team " which he is boasting about in his interview" which shows his mentality and way of evaluating himself and his performances.
Even Shaw didn't deserve it realistically.
I think he means the season before last... but still makes very little sense! Is he saying that the fact we managed to keep Hazard quiet for two games makes the guy a bad player?Didn't Chelsea finish 3rd last season? Where was relegation in that?
Shaw was my second choice: Lindelof all the way for meWho deserved it then?
Certainly quite good. I was just comparing to Gerrard and Lampard seasons. It will have been a fantastic season if they had done it.Do you think it was fantastic? Personally i think he was better in 16/17. I'm not swayed by penalties scored.
It's a sellers market. Did you expect psg to pay neymar release clause, or psg putting in 160m for mbappe or Barcelona to bid 150m euros for coutinho? Or even Napoli asking 150m euros for koulibaly? Or even lazio president to ask 130 m euros for milinkovic savic?Do you seriously expect any club even a desperate Madrid to come up with such an offer?
Lindelof all the way just like @mitchmouse mentioned.Who deserved it then?
I'm not down with the stats you tell me. I'm judging based off my eyes and commentary on here for most of the season.According to Whoscored, right?
....and you think Lindelof was consistent, reliable and quality? I can't even think of any period when Lindelof was one of our best players.Lindelof all the way just like @mitchmouse mentioned.
Like Koke, Saul, Rakatic, Rodri, Arthur, Vidal, Fabian Ruiz, Allan etc right on what planet does the EPL have the world best midfielders...A bloke on the radio down here last night might be on the right track.
He reckons that Pogba and Raiola want away from OT because his ' marketability ' is being eroded, week in and week out, as his displays prove that he's really not as good as the hype that goes with him and he's so often outplayed and outshone by relatively unknown and unrated midfielders in the EPL, and up to now has shown nowhere near the quality of the better known midfielders such as SIlva, De Bruyne, Ericsen, Hazard, etc.
The great desitre to go to Spain or back to Italy is simply because almost all the world class and better midfielders are in the EPL but he could continue to feed the hype that goes with him if he was surrounded by and playing against fairly average midfielders in Spain and Italy.
Got me thinking....And I think there's more than a grain of truth in that.
Of course there are certain parts of the media reporting that. Partly the pro-Madrid and Barca media, and partly the anti-Utd media.Just guesswork. I think he wanted Madrid over us from the beginning.
Then there is the MDL rumours of his agent pushing him towards us despite him wanting Barca, which I think would end the same way.
