Pogba Future

Would you accept Dybala and Sandro for Pogba?


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We plan to offer Pogba 500, 000 per week with new contract to keep him
Why not, also make him the manager and CEO, print his picture on the club's crest instead of the devil figure and rename the club after him, like "Pogba United FC" to convince him to stay.
 

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So you're just proving my point really then.
No, I’m not. Pogba’s only stretch of consistent, quality performances lasted less than two months after Ole took over. He was then a complete liability in midfield for the remainder of the season.

New players who fit the more high pressing, fluid system Ole wants to implement will benefit us much more than relying on Pogba as much as we did last season.
 

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What did the fans do to him? one man shouted at him at the last match of the season after sulking for about 3 months?
Let him sulk in Madrid for one game and he will see with his own eyes how nasty the fans can be.
It was not just a man thou, but it is fine. The whole team should take the blame. My blame is that does anyone actually thinks Ole will challenge for top four next season without Pogba in his team ? Am all for rebuilding but let be honest here, Ole caliber really does not warrant any trust, a good man for sure but I cant see us doing anything significant with Pogba.
 

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We plan to offer Pogba 500, 000 per week with new contract to keep him
Bollocks imo. He has 3 more years on his current one. The press are starting to hit us from every angle as we look (and are) in a mess.

Not sure about this window, not only Ed has to buy, but he is in a position where he has to deal with our star players wanting to leave which he didn't face in such capacity until now. Pogba circus will last all summer. Make the decision and stand by it.
 

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Would happily extend his contract if that means another 5 years from him. Offload Lukaku and Sanchez, sign couple of energetic midfielders and we are set.

You don't sell your best players.
 

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Why not, also make him the manager and CEO, print his picture on the club's crest instead of the devil figure and rename the club after him, like "Pogba United FC" to convince him to stay.
Why would he go for a deal like that? Doesn't even include his own nuclear deterrent.
 

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To do what? You really believe we are going to replace Pogba in the current market? Forget about it, we keep him.
Replace who, exactly? The guy who shows up every now and then, and who is easily our best outfield player? No. Certainly not one-for-one.

Come out of it in a better position long term by selling a player who often enough does not show up, and who doesn't want to be here to boot? Yes.
 

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Pogba is an egotist.
But the twat is also a damn good footballer.
If we cannot get the money we deserve, we should not let him spit on the contract.
If we can get him to extend the contract with more money, we should do it.
Otherwise just make him play this season.

The one thing we should not do is allow him to get his own way.
 

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Always felt clear to me that Pogba would come here for 3-4 years the go to Madrid.

I just figured those years would be more productive
 

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I get that, but what the fans has been doing to him, do you blame him. I really don't see next season been a good one for us.
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Fans did to him? I have never seen a top club with more patient match-going fans than ours. If he can't deal with one guy shouting at him, good luck at Madrid :lol:
 

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Would happily extend his contract if that means another 5 years from him. Offload Lukaku and Sanchez, sign couple of energetic midfielders and we are set.

You don't sell your best players.
Exactly.

I dislike it a lot, but the truth is that this type of thing happens more and more in football. Ramos did it at Madrid, Modric too, Rooney at us and even Evra admitted to have asked for a transfer request and the big money to stay. Even captain marvel at liverpool made a fuss about wanting to leave before a sweet new contract was on offer.

The other aspect is that no matter what you think of Pogba, he is entering his prime and like any top player he wants to win the big trophies. It's up to the club to show enough ambition to fix the mess that is our squad or we will keep having the same problems with any player that becomes good enough to be a regular at an elite club. We do a Madrid and sign some of the best young talent in the World to bring the club back to the European elite or we resign ourselves as a second tier club that will not be able to keep hold of its star players, much like Liverpool was until a couple of seasons ago.
 

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I think we should get in replacements now and fine him 2 weeks wages for his comments.

Point out to him further instances will be a further fine and loss of loyalty bonuses due.

Ask him if his agent will be recompensing his loss of earnings from his own agents fees.

If he doesn't want to stay he can shut up and perform like CR7 did and he'll generate real interest and a good fee.

If he carries on griping he should be disciplined. He signed a contract. He's not lived up to it.
Yes sue him and his agent for breach of contract and reputational damage to the football club .
Would happily extend his contract if that means another 5 years from him. Offload Lukaku and Sanchez, sign couple of energetic midfielders and we are set.

You don't sell your best players.
You do if they are a "virus" and a disruptive malign influence in your dressing room .
No wonder the papers would spout stuff about giving him 500k per week . We are the club that has recently given Ashley Young £120k per week , Luke Shaw 195k per week and Phil Jones £160k per week .
None of which should even be at the club
Total and complete madness
 

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He wasn't though, was he? How much have we spent since then? How much have we invested in managers? It's all been done wrong until we gave Mou the boot, but you can hardly accuse the club of not throwing money at the problem.
At the time he was right. He made those comments after two very disappointing summers in 2009 and 2010 - it clearly looked like we had no intention of signing genuine top class players to try and fill the void Ronaldo had left.
 

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It was not just a man thou, but it is fine. The whole team should take the blame. My blame is that does anyone actually thinks Ole will challenge for top four next season without Pogba in his team ? Am all for rebuilding but let be honest here, Ole caliber really does not warrant any trust, a good man for sure but I cant see us doing anything significant with Pogba.
We won’t do anything significant with or without Pogba. So what’s the point in keeping him? Even in the best case (highly unrealistic scenario) where he suddenly gets a good attitude, works hard, and consistently performs, we would still struggle to get into the top 4.

A more realistic scenario is he continues to put in the odd brilliant performance and the odd diabolical performance amongst bang-average performances.

People talk like replacing Pogba is difficult. Sure, if he performed at his best week in week out then yes. He’d be irreplaceable. But the Pogba who turns out for us week in week out is not that guy and is absolutely replaceable.

It’s time people realise that the Pogba who could be will never be at our club. H wants to leave, let him go. I’m sure he will do great at Madrid, but he will never do great here.
 

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Why not, also make him the manager and CEO, print his picture on the club's crest instead of the devil figure and rename the club after him, like "Pogba United FC" to convince him to stay.
Absolutely. I love Pogba, and I'll miss him... But this (if true) is getting ridiculous.

Ed Woodward is both the biggest embarrassment and most significant barrier to our on-field progress.
 

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All this tells me about these players who want to leave and who have been moaning to the press is that they are sore with the reported 25% loss in wages for not making CL.
The very least they should do, if they desperately want to leave, is allow UTD to make the most of the transfer and by that I mean get the most amount of money out of it.
 

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Why not, also make him the manager and CEO, print his picture on the club's crest instead of the devil figure and rename the club after him, like "Pogba United FC" to convince him to stay.
Probably won't do a worse job, mind.
 

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Would happily extend his contract if that means another 5 years from him. Offload Lukaku and Sanchez, sign couple of energetic midfielders and we are set.

You don't sell your best players.

What if they want '... new challenges elsewhere...'

You think Paul Pogba needs another 100k a week?

Let the man go. Conclude this narrative. Move on.

We have become Arsenal under Wenger, begging players like Henry and RVP to stay.

It's embarrassing.
 

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What if they want '... new challenges elsewhere...'

You think Paul Pogba needs another 100k a week?

Let the man go. Conclude this narrative. Move on.

We have become Arsenal under Wenger, begging players like Henry and RVP to stay.

It's embarrassing.
Yeah begging shite players like them to stay. What a bunch of pathetic twats!
 

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What if they want '... new challenges elsewhere...'

You think Paul Pogba needs another 100k a week?

Let the man go. Conclude this narrative. Move on.

We have become Arsenal under Wenger, begging players like Henry and RVP to stay.

It's embarrassing.
Do you mean like the time we begged Rooney to stay? Or what about the time we begged Ronaldo to stay after he said he wanted a new challenge? Was we arsenal then?
 

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Our poor form doesn't mean that our good form wasn't impressive, same with your own team.
It doesn't alter your point, it disproves it entirely.
Good thing this has nothing to do with the original point then but keep up the straw man if it makes you feel better.
 

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Pogba problems during Fergie era.
Pogba problems during Mourinho era.
Pogba problems during Ole era.

For a club that has bred and recruited some of the greatest footballers the world has ever seen, kissing the behind of a player who wants to leave is indeed strange.
 

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No, I’m not. Pogba’s only stretch of consistent, quality performances lasted less than two months after Ole took over. He was then a complete liability in midfield for the remainder of the season.

New players who fit the more high pressing, fluid system Ole wants to implement will benefit us much more than relying on Pogba as much as we did last season.
Yeah in the long run of course but again my point still stands you're going to initially struggle until Ole can work out a game plan which suits the entire team.
 

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People need to rethink Pogba. Incredibly talented. That is not debated but when a player that is meant to be a leader makes a comment like this:

"After this season and everything that happened this season, with my season being my best season as well, I think for me it could be a good time to have a new challenge somewhere else."

at a sponsor's event, you have got to ask if that's the player you want in your team.
I reaches a conclusion a long time ago: no matter how talented a player is, if he wants out, let him go. A player less talented than Pogba but with 100% commitment to the club, will be a better keep in the long run.
 

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Do you mean like the time we begged Rooney to stay? Or what about the time we begged Ronaldo to stay after he said he wanted a new challenge? Was we arsenal then?
Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham have had to deal with this type of thing virtually every time they had a world class player. Heck, we even got some of those players to join us. The fact of the matter is that there is only one thing that will keep the best players happy, competing for the top trophies.

Pogba can feck off if this is what he wants, but the underling problem is that we are stagnating or even going backwards while domestic and European rivals are going from strength to strength. Sell him or keep him, we have to buy some top level talent and go back to the top asap. or every United player that rises above the rest and is coveted by others will eventually want to leave.

Talking about heart, loyalty and what not is fine, but the name of the game is winning, and we are not very good at that as of late.
 

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People need to rethink Pogba. Incredibly talented. That is not debated but when a player that is meant to be a leader makes a comment like this:

"After this season and everything that happened this season, with my season being my best season as well, I think for me it could be a good time to have a new challenge somewhere else."

at a sponsor's event, you have got to ask if that's the player you want in your team.
I reaches a conclusion a long time ago: no matter how talented a player is, if he wants out, let him go. A player less talented than Pogba but with 100% commitment to the club, will be a better keep in the long run.
12 months ago, he was made captain for our season opener, scored and his manager said post match that he was a monster and put the team first (or a very similar sentiment regarding wanting to play post World Cup) pogba on the other hand stirred as much shit as was humanly possible and managed to change the entire narrative of the start of the season.
 

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Utter nonsense. Pogba is a far better player with far more accomplishments to his name than a Coutinho. If you think his value has not increased and possibly even declined since we signed him then you don't understand the transfer market at all.
Expecting £180m for Pogba is the most preposterous hallucination I have read on here in a very long time. Pogba is good but not outstanding on the field, and a troublemaker off it, and that affects his sale value. There will be no queue of clubs to sign him, and if Juve come calling they won't pay more than they sold him for, and so far they don't look interested.
 

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Pogba should feck off asap if that is what he wants. His presence is now a negative distraction. He is welcome to take Lingard with him while he is at it.

BUT

Under our terms, at our price, and when it is convenient for us. At 300k plus per week he better damn well abide by that shiny contract.
 

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Pogba problems during Fergie era.
Pogba problems during Mourinho era.
Pogba problems during Ole era.
Best post in 113 pages! He has potential to be a pain in the backside for the entirety of his career. Time to cash in (if anyone is stupid enough to pay crazy money) and let him be a problem elsewhere.