My mistake, I assumed the £800k figure accounted for gate receipts as well as food/drink and other commercial revenue.
The problem is that all of this is really boring and nobody really cares. United make more money than almost anyone still and it doesn't seem to help all that much. Pochettino gets you top four despite signing no one at all.
I mean, gloat about winning things. If you win the Champions League this season, by all means lap it up. Hell even if you just make it to the final you may as well bathe in the moment. I really don't care how much money you make per game from selling pints. The only vaguely interesting thing about it is the way a pint at Tottenham magically fills up from the bottom of the cup.
Well, if it's boring for you then why bother posting in this thread?
It's a thread, after all, about our new stadium and not about the CL. And some folk - not least because they might be looking at the future prospects for a new stadium for their own club - might be interested in knowing more about how well - or not - the Spurs' strategy is working in terms of making for more of a day/evening out for fans, rather than turning up just before kick-off and hurrying away afterwards.
The link you posted hint at a 20M boost a season and this link placed Tottenham at around 50m in matchday income (2016/2017) so that would get you up to 70+ above Chelsea (much lower capacity) and about the same as Liverpool but still well behind United and Arsenal at 100M+.
The maths might be completely wrong without a clear breakdown club by club based on the same method of collecting the numbers. You also definitely have to take the shiny gloss into context. You'd have to wait to play a full season in it before comparing it to other clubs.
The maths might be completely wrong without a clear breakdown club by club based on the same method of collecting the numbers. You also definitely have to take the shiny gloss into context. You'd have to wait to play a full season in it before comparing it to other clubs.
So, £12.90/person per game at Spurs while City is taking in £2.73/person, assuming max capacity at their respective stadiums.
And are those numbers the profit or just the takings?
Just the takings.
That's a £20m income from food and drink sales alone. And the gate receipts in our new stadium will be likely more than double that of our old stadium, because the tickets are a lot more expensive and the capacity has increased.
Our total income will soon surpass that of Arsenal and be on a par with that of Chelsea.
How much did the stadium cost to build in totality?
Come back in a year and see if you're taking the same amount. Currently the stadium in new and your fans and away fans are naturally excited/interested to stay around. When the shine wears off will be the true test to see if the 'experiment' worked.
Yet everybody in the world would agree that City's recent success is only because of money. Even if you have money, you still have to spend it wisely.
Well it does help when you spend astronomically more than everyone else, but yeah you still need a plan and need to perform on the pitch...and even when people talk about city's money it's still quite boring. It has nothing to do with why United can't beat Burnley at home three years in a row.
Also, at least bickering about the legitimacy of city's money is a bit more relevant than how many pies are sold at Tottenham. I just don't care. It's pretty clear that Spurs aren't going to do a Leeds and also aren't going to start our spending the other top six. It's also pretty clear they'll remain a top six team for as long as they keep Pochettino and most of their key players.
If anything at the moment United, Chelsea or Arsenal look more likely to drop off. United and Chelsea seem to have no stability at all.
In relation to a media-reported £850m figure, Levy said last month that it will be "of that order" but that the actual figure is still unknown because there are still ongoing works. But this figure - or whatever the actual final total will be - is for the stadium complex, not just the stadium itself.
I have to say I don’t really find it boring, quite the opposite. Also over the last 5 years they have only spent around £80M
More than United have. One thing I am concerned about is the human rights credibility of their owners, as let’s face it it’s much more important than any sport and also how the feck they have stayed clear of FFP for so long considering they barely fill their stadium.
As for how much money our stadium can make, of course it’s interesting to Spurs fans. Considering the last 2 years hearing from most fans that while a new stadium was nice it wasn’t going to be a game changer for our club which of course was nonsense.
As someone who was a massive fan of it from the nice fancy pictures....it looks wank from the cameras on the pitch. About as imposing as me nan. The way the corners just droop down like a saggy arse. No thanks.
I read up about it. Levy said it came to 1bn.
600m in loans taken out. I expect a frugal time for Spurs for the foreseeable future.
I find the problem with moral arguments in football is they are invariably tunnel visioned and hypocritical, which takes away the interest. City's money may come from a dirty source but nobody cared as much when they were still a 6th placed team. Then it was all about Roman's dirty oil money or United's shameless merchandising. Our own government aren't against bombing the homes of innocent families for their share of the oil wealth so it all just rings a bit hollow when people suddenly develop a disliking to it because a football team they don't support wins a trophy or two.
It's the same with racism. Everyone hates racism in football until their team captain calls someone a "black cnut"...then suddenly it's the other person's fault. Raheem Sterling likes to talk about racism a lot but I don't remember him having such a problem with it or demanding points deductions when he was at Liverpool and one of his team mates liked to go around insulting black players for being black.
As soon as this stuff crops up in the football world everyone is so hypocritical about it I just lose interest and it ends up putting me off football a bit altogether. I get why people want to speak up and talk about these things and for things to change, but really it needs to be done in a general sense rather than picking on this or that team.
It also has little to do with Tottenham making money from selling things at their stadium, which is a different and completely pointless conversation topic that I suspect no one on here other than Gladston and some people who get wound up by him spend any time thinking about at all.
Yay trophy for food and beverages income on the way!
Sky sports asked some prominent people their opinion on Spurs increased revenue stream.
Harry Kane’s agent
Sky sports asked some prominent people their opinion on Spurs increased revenue stream.
Harry Kane’s agent
Spurs top Danish footballer
Daniel Levy
He later sold a hotdog to Ed Woodward for a record fee
Should have spent more money on the pitch itself than on the cheese room. It was a shambles today and not worthy of a CL-semifinal. It was completely torn up at the end of the game and players slipping during the entire game. Its not like its January either. Shameful.
Lost 40 percent of their games in the new stadium now.
You realize players were slipping all over the OT pitch during the weekend too right?
Two straight losses. Not the magic castle some thought it was huh.
Our pitch is widely considered one of the best in the PL. Its not even close to what happened to Spurs pitch today. It was totally fecked up towards the end and tbf Spurs should have taken better advantage of that it hindered Ajax passing game in the second half.
Pitch invasions and planted flags in the ground West Ham style if this carries on in the great manor.
The pitch clearly needs work.
yeah imo that shambles of a pitch played a big part in the game deteriorating so heavily in the second half
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It’s funny how the Emirates marked the definite end of Arsenal as a serious club. Won in 2003/2004, came second the season after, reached the CL final in 2006. Then the Emirates opened. And then there were crickets.
The outlay was simply too big to absorb successfully for Arsenal and they slided into relative irrelevancy. I predict the same will happen to Spurs.
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Spurs are doing well in transfer market also. Ndombele and Ceballos are 2 very good players.
We have been doing to an end for 3 seasons now, sure feels good if it is.
So did Arsenal. They coasted on their Invincibles team for 3 years while their stadium was being built. Worked out okay, reached a CL final just like you. The similarities are uncanny.
But then reality caught up. Henry to Barcelona. Vieira to Juventus.
Ndombele is your consolation prize, but now it’s back to obscurity for you once Pochettino and the big boys move to big clubs.
Oh ok il pack up and go now, you have no idea about much about football tbh. Arsenal are a rich club and if their owner choose too could compete, but they don’t. I suggest you do a little research on owners and what they really want.
Arsenal were unfortunate in that no one foresaw there would be an explosion of TV money or sugar daddy clubs. And yet poor planning has been their undoing, they went for a self-sustaining model and didn't spend when they needed to.
Spurs are in a position where they don't need to prioritise selling players to refinance the stadium, even if the debt is larger than Arsenal's. But you are right that when Pochettino leaves that could be a seismic moment.
That’s pretty much it, what people don’t see about Arsenal is, they have money to spend, they rake it in, but still no money is available.
Got some tickets for that game. So looking forward to checking that spanking brand new stadium out.
For those interested in football stadium design and some of new ideas about it:
Why Europe’s newest football stadium looked to the high street to ensure success
"... ‘A cold concourse and a stale pint and a crap pie is not going to cut it anymore. … We want to encourage people to arrive early and stay late. And the proof is already there – they're certainly not leaving straight after the match.’ …"
Why Europe’s newest football stadium looked to the high street to ensure success
"... ‘A cold concourse and a stale pint and a crap pie is not going to cut it anymore. … We want to encourage people to arrive early and stay late. And the proof is already there – they're certainly not leaving straight after the match.’ …"