AaronRedDevil
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Every season I recognise the team a little less. Hopefully in 5 years time. It wont be like that.
If we are talking seriously, he can pretty much only be a positive surprise in fairness.You won’t when you see him play
Bring back our Britain
Maybe he's a yes man, but just because he didn't "fire" everyone, does that mean he's a yes man? What kind of rhetoric is that? If he fires everyone, how is he going to play?I echo Gary's sentiments but im inclined to also throw Ole into that exact conversation. Seems we've got a typical yes man in charge, all this reckless talk about axing players after we ended the season with a dreadful run, yet the reality we've seen is dross be awarded new contracts and targets who can improve the starting 11 improve rivals while they already possess stregnthened areas where most of our weaknesses reside.
Given that Woody and Judge appear to be the men responsible for player contracts ( what a good job they are doing ), perhaps Ole has to sit back and wait for them to act . Certainly that seems to be the case, players have contracts extended on crazy wages as they try to get money in for the transfer out to show they didn't make a mistake signing them in the first place.Maybe he's a yes man, but just because he didn't "fire" everyone, does that mean he's a yes man? What kind of rhetoric is that? If he fires everyone, how is he going to play?
This is the only kind of protest the Glazers will understand.Other than this forum to catch up on United news I've switched off.
Haven't renewed my membership eirher (and keep ignoring the emails and calls). Club is a shitshow from top to bottom and feel like I'm watching through my fingers like a horror movie.
Come to think of it i only have sky and BT to watch United so may as well cancel them as well.
Our club is being flushed down the pan by money men with bo love of or knowledge of MUFC or even football in general. F##ked if I'll be bothered if they aren't.
I don't feel it's not supporting United. Rather I feel it's as though the United I know and have grown up with for the past thirty years or so is taking a break from football (and competing). One of the biggest clubs in the world on name only at the moment.
Continue to watch the clubs downward spiral season after season until the fans or the Owners had enough and the club is sold. Only thing we can hope for is that the next owners are are not Glazers 2.0 or the Saudis.It seems therefore everyone from club legends to your everyday fan have contempt for the current squad. It's a sad indictment. Where do we go from here?
We haven't fallen far enough yet for a major change to happen. The sponsors are still there, money is pouring in, and I imagine the ground will be full for home games.It needs a major major refresh, that's been obvious for years now. We thought they may finally realise it this summer, but it doesn't seem that way yet. If it doesn't happen it's just more of the same. Those expecting Martial, Pogba, Lingard etc. to suddenly turn it on without major changes around them are kidding themselves.
If it's anything like last time it'll only be full on Europa nights because of discount and free tickets given to schools.We haven't fallen far enough yet for a major change to happen. The sponsors are still there, money is pouring in, and I imagine the ground will be full for home games.
If you keep saying something over and over again people start to believe it but when you say Ole is a 'typical yes man' on what are you basing this? Maybe he is maybe he isn't but I can't see how you can make that deduction half way through the first transfer window.I echo Gary's sentiments but im inclined to also throw Ole into that exact conversation. Seems we've got a typical yes man in charge, all this reckless talk about axing players after we ended the season with a dreadful run, yet the reality we've seen is dross be awarded new contracts and targets who can improve the starting 11 improve rivals while they already possess stregnthened areas where most of our weaknesses reside.
Agree. Those kids need good guidance and they won't get it from this lot. I would only trust Mata in that aspect.The like of Gomes, Garner, Chong and Greenwood will need a settled side with good role models to develop into the players the club believe they can become. Unfortunately there won't be massive changes at Utd anytime soon. You'll have good pro's like Smalling, Young, De Gea and Mata to help them along. The problem players at the club won't be around long, so this team that we all don't like won't be together more than this season. It's imperative that any further signings this summer are proper pro's that those players can look up to.
I'm not sure they know how to turn things around. I accept that football is cyclical and that no team dominates (at least in England) indefinitely. But the sheer size of United, and the club's vast financial wealth should at least ensure that we are able to attract the best possible talent in all departments. That doesn't seem to be the case. We can look to Tampa to see how that team has fared since they won the Super Bowl. I know the NFL is a totally different beast to the Premier League, but the Bucs have just ambled along, winning nothing and rarely challenging but, no doubt, making money for the owners. They seem to have settled for mediocrity and it could be that the same scenario is being played out here.If it's anything like last time it'll only be full on Europa nights because of discount and free tickets given to schools.
You'd think they'd want to preempt things getting worse by getting the team really sorted now. That they don't tells us all we need to know about their ambition I guess.
1974 for me, so I've seen the dark times and I've seen the glory years, but in all of that time, I've never felt so frustrated and disillusioned by a squad of players and the inept failings by the club.Having supported United since 1963, I dont think I have ever felt so bereft of feelings for any of our current players and more so the Club in general.....
No vision,foresight,planning or strategy is woeful for a once great Club...
Was Brown the right back here? Well, AWB could replace Brown. I've never been a fan of the latter.I was browsing through Facebook "on this day" this morning and it showed a photo of our 2008 CL winning team. Practically every single one of those players would walk into our team now
The photo showed: Hargreaves, VDS, Vidic, Rio, Brown, Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney, Scholes, Carrick and Evra
Yes we were incredibly spoilt with that team however we had more excellent players than average players and also players with all round qualities who would also work hard plus we had several leaders
Now we seem to have players who either understand United, are excellent on their day or work hard, hardly anyone meets all the qualities the above players met. Yes Ronaldo was a bit of a poser but who cared when he was doing what he did that season. We certainly dont have any leaders unless its who organises the next type of dance they will do
Out of our current squad, who would replace any of the above listed players?
I applaud you. I wish more fans would do the same. The only way money men listen is hurting their pocket.Other than this forum to catch up on United news I've switched off.
Haven't renewed my membership eirher (and keep ignoring the emails and calls). Club is a shitshow from top to bottom and feel like I'm watching through my fingers like a horror movie.
Come to think of it i only have sky and BT to watch United so may as well cancel them as well.
Our club is being flushed down the pan by money men with bo love of or knowledge of MUFC or even football in general. F##ked if I'll be bothered if they aren't.
I don't feel it's not supporting United. Rather I feel it's as though the United I know and have grown up with for the past thirty years or so is taking a break from football (and competing). One of the biggest clubs in the world on name only at the moment.
Kind of proves my question, less than half the players of that team would be replaced, I know we were very lucky with that team but says a lot, how about consistency with regards to Pogba as probably in that team he would be as good as he can be but would you pick the current Pogba or Tevez? Not picking holes just genuinely interestedWas Brown the right back here? Well, AWB could replace Brown. I've never been a fan of the latter.
DDG vs VdS? Close. When DDG is on form he takes it. And finally, I never rated Tevez, so I would play R&R as forwards and put Pogba in Tevez' place.
Same.Let's just say the only things I'm looking forward to are a few James's full-pelt runs and Wan-Bissaka brwning people near the touchline. Easily the most depressing pre-season I've had since becoming a fan in 1996.
Same here. I'm not interested in supporting a business.Having supported United since 1963 (yes,a 9 year old glory hunter after we won the FA Cup) I dont think I have ever felt so bereft of feelings for any of our current players and more so the Club in general.Ed has had 6 seasons to perfect his transfer talents and would suggest most supporters couldn't do worse.
No vision,foresight,planning or strategy is woeful for a once great Club,maybe I'll go back to my roots and follow Orient next season doing battle with Salford City but I know I'll still tune in every week to watch our continued decline,depressing thought!
Tevez had spirit, but not much finesse. I like Pogba, the player. Pogba, the dickhead is just that. So, I'd go with Pogba to Anfield and Tevez to war.Kind of proves my question, less than half the players of that team would be replaced, I know we were very lucky with that team but says a lot, how about consistency with regards to Pogba as probably in that team he would be as good as he can be but would you pick the current Pogba or Tevez? Not picking holes just genuinely interested