Neymar on the move?

[duffer]

If you sign a bellend you can't really complain if he acts like a bellend.

It's like the fable of the scorpion and the frog, but with more incest and bellendery.

 

[Harry190]

Still a very beautiful player on the pitch. Mesmerizing.

 

[MVBDX]

, but correct me if I remember wrong, doesn't the Spanish Tax Authority have some kind of claim against him for some of his income while he was at Barsa?

Others might know the details better, iirc it wasn't tax related, but a sum of money as a sign of good-will or bonus for his stay or something like that... which Barca had to pay at a certain date, so he waited and collected and left like the next day

 

[kouroux]

It's probably an honest answer, but it's really stupid and disrespectful to the PSG fans. I don't particularly care about the club since I feel PSG made their own bed, and are just as responsible for the current circus surrounding the club.

It's an answer made by someone who lives in his own bubble, honest yes but still weird.

 

[MVBDX]

It's probably an honest answer, but it's really stupid and disrespectful to the PSG fans. I don't particularly care about the club since I feel PSG made their own bed, and are just as responsible for the current circus surrounding the club.

I really doubt that it was honest as they were out the next game and it was all for naught. While he has won an actual treble with the same club, or a confederation cup with Brazil. He said that just to piss them off. Especially because it was a controversial game with Øvrebø level officiating, that PSG players talk about to this day.

 

[Harry190]

He'd be a smash hit in England with his style. They'd hit him but he'd still turn defenders to goo in the Premier League. And he'd be up there with Messi and Ronaldo in terms of stardom. Easily. As a package, the EPL just gives you more bang for your buck. He probably wouldn't like the weather.

 

[Casanova85]

He'd be a smash hit in England with his style. They'd hit him but he'd still turn defenders to goo in the Premier League. And he'd be up there with Messi and Ronaldo in terms of stardom. Easily. As a package, the EPL just gives you more bang for your buck. He probably wouldn't like the weather.

Currently, only Chelsea could afford him in terms of wage PLUS city glamour + PL/UCL contenders.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

He'd be a smash hit in England with his style. They'd hit him but he'd still turn defenders to goo in the Premier League. And he'd be up there with Messi and Ronaldo in terms of stardom. Easily. As a package, the EPL just gives you more bang for your buck. He probably wouldn't like the weather.

He wouldn’t last a season in England, it would be Di Maria mk2, only far far more expensive.
Pep wouldn’t touch him with a pole.
Don’t know why would anyone want to pay 200m or whatever that is for that manchild.

 

[totaalvoetbal]

He wouldn’t last a season in England, it would be Di Maria mk2, only far far more expensive.
Pep wouldn’t touch him with a pole.
Don’t know why would anyone want to pay 200m or whatever that is for that manchild.

I think he would be great in England given the right set up. If he played for Manchester city were he would be closer to the opposition goal he would do fine. He is a much better footballer than Di Maria.

Pep Guardiola actually wanted him at Bayern Munich when he was the coach there, but the Bayern board didn't want him because they said Brazilian players don't adapt well to Germany from what I rememeber and they bought Mario Götze instead. I agree that Pep would not want him now though.

I think the problem with Neymar at PSG is that he club gave him too much power. At Barcelona he never ever displayed this kind of behaviour because he was surrounded by Messi, Suarez, Pique etc Players who wouldn't put up with it. If he joined Manchester CIty, he would be ostracised very quickly if he doesn't conform to the teams ethos.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

I think he would be great in England given the right set up. If he played for Manchester city were he would be closer to the opposition goal he would do fine. He is a much better footballer than Di Maria.

Pep Guardiola actually wanted him at Bayern Munich when he was the coach there, but the Bayern board didn't want him because they said Brazilian players don't adapt well to Germany from what I rememeber and they bought Mario Götze instead. I agree that Pep would not want him now though.

I think the problem with Neymar at PSG is that he club gave him too much power. At Barcelona he never ever displayed this kind of behaviour because he was surrounded by Messi, Suarez, Pique etc Players who wouldn't put up with it. If he joined Manchester CIty, he would be ostracised very quickly if he doesn't conform to the teams ethos.

It’s not that I don’t think he’ll do well in English football, he would get kicked a lot, yea, but he always gets kicked, he’ll do well in any league if he wants to.
I just can’t see him adapting to life in England, can you honestly imagine Neymar living in Manchester?
Can’t even imagine him living in London.
It has got nothing to do with the fact he’s a Brazilian, plenty of Brazilian players adapted to living in England just fine, it has everything to do with the fact that he’s a spoilt babyman.

 

[#00F]

Many people seriously undervalue his footballing capabilities. He is still among the top 5 players in world currently and rip apart EPL if he played there. United could not get much better player for 150m (IMO, his current value right now). Don't forget his marketing value either, only Ronaldo has more instagram followers. He himself can win 10+ games single handedly in the league.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Many people seriously undervalue his footballing capabilities. He is still among the top 5 players in world currently and rip apart EPL if he played there. United could not get much better player for 150m (IMO, his current value right now). Don't forget his marketing value either, only Ronaldo has more instagram followers. He himself can win 10+ games single handedly in the league.

Oh hell no, you take him.

 

[#00F]

Oh hell no, you take him.

We don't have funds anymore, otherwise he will behave when Messi is around.

 

[kouroux]

Many people seriously undervalue his footballing capabilities. He is still among the top 5 players in world currently and rip apart EPL if he played there. United could not get much better player for 150m (IMO, his current value right now). Don't forget his marketing value either, only Ronaldo has more instagram followers. He himself can win 10+ games single handedly in the league.

He gets criticized and mocked but most are still aware he can be an excellent footballer when he wants it. Neymar with much better behavior would be one of the most loved and appreciated footballers in the world like Ronaldinho used to be.

 

[barros]

PSG fans should stop pretending they are United fans to try to convince Neymar will be a great buy for the club, he’s trouble with a capital T, buying him would take United down even more since he would come with a massive salary plus the fee United would have to pay to PSG and his father. If Progba is bad for the team them we will have Neymar which is 1000 times worse. The team needs good players and not clowns who think they are the best when he probably lost his position for Brazil.

 

[RedB4ndiT]

Neymar with much better behavior would be one of the most loved and appreciated footballers in the world like Ronaldinho used to be.

When Ronaldinho does a trick against an opponent, everyone smiles and applauds. When Neymar does the same, the opponent wants to injure Neymar.

 

[Gandalf Greyhame]

We're already struggling with Pogba being too big for the club despite being the best player. Imagine if we got Neymar as well and lost to the likes of hardworking Wolves twice in a season again, and crashed out of the CL once more. It would be a nightmare dealing with the PR that follows them when things go bad.

 

[Ecstatic]

Why is that?

Players like Robben, Sneijder struggled there and Real Madrid not patient fans to fancy very glamourous/fast/spectacular players.

That said, Zidane is a big fan of him since 10 years.

 

[Ecstatic]

PSG fans should stop pretending they are United fans to try to convince Neymar will be a great buy for the club, he’s trouble with a capital T, buying him would take United down even more since he would come with a massive salary plus the fee United would have to pay to PSG and his father. If Progba is bad for the team them we will have Neymar which is 1000 times worse. The team needs good players and not clowns who think they are the best when he probably lost his position for Brazil.

I didn't know this conspiracy theory

 

[giorno]

Players like Robben, Sneijder struggled there and Real Madrid not patient fans to fancy very glamourous/fast/spectacular players.

That said, Zidane is a big fan of him since 10 years.

Robben struggled, Sneijder didn't. He just wasn't Kaka and Perez needed him sold. Besides, Sneijder wasn't a spectacular player, just a great one

Robben was a hit with the fans though, as was Robinho. As is Isco

 

[MrEleson]

Robben struggled, Sneijder didn't. He just wasn't Kaka and Perez needed him sold. Besides, Sneijder wasn't a spectacular player, just a great one

Robben was a hit with the fans though, as was Robinho. As is Isco

Robben was great the season before Real Madrid sold him, no? Wasn’t he also one of the best players for them in the 09/10 pre-season? According to him, pellegrini didn’t want him to be sold.

 

[clarkydaz]

When Ronaldinho does a trick against an opponent, everyone smiles and applauds. When Neymar does the same, the opponent wants to injure Neymar.

perfectly put

 

[manutddjw]

I do have to applaud Neymar on this one. I have zero respect for PSG, so watching him put them in their place as the ugly rich guy, who attracts gold diggers who nail the hired help and always have eyes for someone else brings a huge smile to my face.

Only thing is if Barcelona are already taking out loans to close Griezmann, I have no idea how they can afford Neymar. They don’t really need Umtiti and Coutinho’s value has taken a nose dive.

 

[el3mel]

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[Eddy_JukeZ]

Swapping Coutinho/Dembele for Neymar is a win for Barca.

Those 2 aren't near Neymar and they were always panic moves by the Barcelona board.

Do PSG want both? I think Tuchel would like Dembele, but not sure if he'd want Coutinho.

 

[SharpshooterTom]

Another superteam for Messi.

I hope when people evaluate Messi's legacy and although I have no doubt he's a strong GOAT contender, people do recognise the calibre of players he's played alongside with.

Ronaldinho
Deco
Xavi
Iniesta
Henry
Eto'o
Villa
Ibrahimovic
Busquets
Neymar
Suarez
Griezmann

etc.

I'm well aware Barca over the past 18 months or so haven't been as good as previous years and have relied more on Messi (although Barca did thrash Real 5-1 without Messi last year), and he's actually been more enjoyable to watch because of it, but it is telling that he can't win anything at Argentina when his team isn't packed with the usual glut of stars, and his goal ratio is only 0.5 for Argentina (compared to 0.9 at Barca).

Barca have been CL favourites every year (usually said around christmas time after looking the most impressive in the group stages) for the past decade, and no doubt it will be a "just hand it to Barca now" again if they get Neymar.

 

[SharpshooterTom]

This is another thing I don't get is people say "Barcelona wont win very much when Messi retires".

I've personally never agreed with this, they may go through a short phase of not winning much for a season or two, but it wont last long. Barca will always be a top 5 world club and have power to attract anyone who they wish, more than any English club can. The fact they were winning plenty of trophies before Messi, i.e. 6 la liga titles in the 90s, 2 CL's, the 2nd being Ronaldinho/Deco/Larsson team that Messi was on the fringes of at the time.

Barcelona will still win plenty of La Liga's and Champions League post Messi and anyone who doesn't think they can is a bit deluded IMO.

 

[Daysleeper]

Another superteam for Messi.

I hope when people evaluate Messi's legacy and although I have no doubt he's a strong GOAT contender, people do recognise the calibre of players he's played alongside with.

Ronaldinho
Deco
Xavi
Iniesta
Henry
Eto'o
Villa
Ibrahimovic
Busquets
Neymar
Suarez
Griezmann

etc.

I'm well aware Barca over the past 18 months or so haven't been as good as previous years and have relied more on Messi (although Barca did thrash Real 5-1 without Messi last year), and he's actually been more enjoyable to watch because of it, but it is telling that he can't win anything at Argentina when his team isn't packed with the usual glut of stars, and his goal ratio is only 0.5 for Argentina (compared to 0.9 at Barca).

Barca have been CL favourites every year (usually said around christmas time after looking the most impressive in the group stages) for the past decade, and no doubt it will be a "just hand it to Barca now" again if they get Neymar.

And yet when people look back at history they’ll see how in recent years Messi has been surrounded by players who perform like absolute crap in attack.

He’s had own goal been the second highest scorer on Barcelona FFS.

Has he had great teammates? For sure, but so has Ronaldo and R9 and plenty of others

And Argentina do have stars, they just mostly play like crap.

Not to say Messi hasn’t had bad performances with the NT (this year might’ve been his worst NT) showing but it is incredibly lazy to say he needs a lot of super stars to look good.

Even in the tourneys that Ronaldo won nations league he had other teammates get player of the tournament. Which isn’t to say Ronaldo wasn’t great in the semi final, but my point is that it is a team sport. As great as messi’s Teammates have been on paper, on the pitch in CL they’ve been very subpar in recent years. Meanwhile Messi has comfortably been Barca’s best CL player year in and year out.

 

[Daysleeper]

This is another thing I don't get is people say "Barcelona wont win very much when Messi retires".

I've personally never agreed with this, they may go through a short phase of not winning much for a season or two, but it wont last long. Barca will always be a top 5 world club and have power to attract anyone who they wish, more than any English club can. The fact they were winning plenty of trophies before Messi, i.e. 6 la liga titles in the 90s, 2 CL's, the 2nd being Ronaldinho/Deco/Larsson team that Messi was on the fringes of at the time.

Barcelona will still win plenty of La Liga's and Champions League post Messi and anyone who doesn't think they can is a bit deluded IMO.

Remove Messi from this current Barca squad and they’d struggle to get out of the group stage at times.

I honestly think after Messi retires it’ll be ten years before they see another CL. Hell even WITH Messi it’s been 5 years without a CL, once he leaves there’s is going to be a massive irreplaceable hole.

Barca are a huge club with deep pockets but there is going to need to be a ton of changes with the board and management before they sniff another CL after Messi.

 

[kouroux]

Another superteam for Messi.

I hope when people evaluate Messi's legacy and although I have no doubt he's a strong GOAT contender, people do recognise the calibre of players he's played alongside with.

Ronaldinho
Deco
Xavi
Iniesta
Henry
Eto'o
Villa
Ibrahimovic
Busquets
Neymar
Suarez
Griezmann

etc.

I'm well aware Barca over the past 18 months or so haven't been as good as previous years and have relied more on Messi (although Barca did thrash Real 5-1 without Messi last year), and he's actually been more enjoyable to watch because of it, but it is telling that he can't win anything at Argentina when his team isn't packed with the usual glut of stars, and his goal ratio is only 0.5 for Argentina (compared to 0.9 at Barca).

Barca have been CL favourites every year (usually said around christmas time after looking the most impressive in the group stages) for the past decade, and no doubt it will be a "just hand it to Barca now" again if they get Neymar.

No one ever won big trophies by himself

 

[RedRonaldo]

He will cost min 200m with over 750k wages per week. He is bellend and injury-proned too. Good luck for whoever willing to spend that much on him.

 

[clarkydaz]

Remove Messi from this current Barca squad and they’d struggle to get out of the group stage at times.

I honestly think after Messi retires it’ll be ten years before they see another CL. Hell even WITH Messi it’s been 5 years without a CL, once he leaves there’s is going to be a massive irreplaceable hole.

And once messi is removed, the fear factor will be gone. A bit like us without fergie

 

[sun_tzu]

Remove Messi from this current Barca squad and they’d struggle to get out of the group stage at times.

I honestly think after Messi retires it’ll be ten years before they see another CL. Hell even WITH Messi it’s been 5 years without a CL, once he leaves there’s is going to be a massive irreplaceable hole.

Barca are a huge club with deep pockets but there is going to need to be a ton of changes with the board and management before they sniff another CL after Messi.

Equally once Messi retires they will want a big name to replace him commercially as well as on the pitch... Plus they will have a huge chunk off their wage bill
Mbappe?
They already have some great young players in de jong, Arthur, dembele and potentially de ligt.
Might take them a season or two to transition but with their worldwide support and the structure of the club there is a good chance they will still be challenging... Look at how much real have splaffed since Ronaldo left

 

[Kostov]

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How about we offer them 100m + Lingard + Rojo + Darmian?

 

[Ooge_]

The probability that the next player who comes close to Messi/Ronaldo will sooner or later play for Barca/Real is pretty high. Neymar belongs to this catagory, Dembélé, Mbappe, Sancho ...
The key for any big club is, to stay in the Top-6 in Europe to be attractive for the best players. Once you are out, you lose money, reputation, visibility and attractiveness. The way back will be very hard. I don´t think, Barca will get out of the Top-6, when Messi retires.

 

[paraguayo]

The Dembele trade thing might have so meat to the bone.

Didn't Ousmane thrive with Tuchel? I feel like he'd agree to do it. Then they just need to convince one of Rakitic or Umtiti and add another 50-80m with Malcom money.

Coutinho won't necessarily leave I think. They will probably keep him to please Neymar.

 

[Hawks2008]

I suppose FFP doesn't apply to Barca

 

[SharpshooterTom]

Who would you say was the overall better player if you had to choose?

Peak Ronaldinho or Peak Neymar?

 

[giorno]

No one ever won big trophies by himself

Diego did, the one time

 

[kouroux]

Diego did, the one time

He had a very solid team to say the least of which he was the star of course. Besides, he cheated big time.