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Newcastle fans ran Allardyce out of there, Bruce seems to be more affable but I fear the same fate. Quique Setien just left Betis and he got that good football on deck I hear, wouldn't expect it from Mike Ashley though.
 

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Newcastle fans ran Allardyce out of there,
Although results were fairly dire - gifting hopeless Derby County 4 of the 11 points they finished with - he was hardly hounded out by a rabid mob. Allardyce was a Freddy Shepherd appointment. Mike Ashley dumped him at an opportune time to get Keegan in.

Allardyce's training was good for a laugh though. Imagine the joy of hearing that oaf blaring 1890's tactics at you over the PA.

 

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This is going to be an unpopular opinion but I think Bruce going to Newcastle was like us appointing Ole. Both boards have appointed someone so grateful to be there they won't rock the boat.
 

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The Club is disappointed to learn via public statement issued by Newcastle United that it has appointed former Sheffield Wednesday staff Steve Bruce, Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence.

Regardless of the fact that the staff resigned from their positions with the Club on Monday, there remains outstanding legal issues to be resolved between the club and the staff and Newcastle United. The Club is currently considering its position and taking the appropriate legal advice.


No further comment will be made by the Club concerning this matter.

Statement from Sheffield Wednesday
 

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Loved Bruce as a player, seems like a very nice genuine fella as well, but this is a very uninspiring appt. The fact they wanted to talk to Big Sam at one point just shows the complete lack of ambition.I wouldn't be surprised if they spoke with Hughes, Moyes and Pardew before settling on Bruce.
Dowie, Pulis and Phil Brown too probably
 

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When it goes tits up at Newcastle, he can take up writing novels full time. It's been too long since his last one.
 

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I wish Bruce well but with the current owners I fear for him and new oil owners would be getting someone in with a lot more vowels in their name.
 

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  • Among the 33 managers to have managed 200 or more Premier League games, Bruce's win percentage of 28.1% (110 games in 392 games) is the second-lowest, ahead only of his former Manchester United team-mate Bryan Robson (26.8%).
He will be gone by December, and Newcastle will be gone by the end of April.
 

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This is somewhat reminiscent of when Newcastle appointed Steve McClaren back in 2015.
 

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  • Among the 33 managers to have managed 200 or more Premier League games, Bruce's win percentage of 28.1% (110 games in 392 games) is the second-lowest, ahead only of his former Manchester United team-mate Bryan Robson (26.8%).
He will be gone by December, and Newcastle will be gone by the end of April.

Yeah such a terrible appointment for Newcastle. If you could pick a manager to go to a club and not last a season it would be Bruce.

Shambles of a club, feel for their fans.
 

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Newcastle have gone from a potential rich Sheikh takeover with Rafa as manager to....
Mike Ashley still at Newcastle, with no new players, and Steve Bruce as manager
plus potential legal dispute with Sheffield Wednesday
 

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Fans on the radio not one bit happy. But good luck to him, you never know.
 

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Dowie, Pulis and Phil Brown too probably
Nice bloke my ar*e sh*t on Wednesday by walking out after they delayed his start by a month to allow him to go to Australia- i know it was a tribute to his dad and have no issues with that but nice blokes dont walk out on a club at the drop of a hat- 3rd time he has done it- hope he gets sacked before Christmas.
 

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This will be glorious.

I cannot wait.
 

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Newcastle have gone from a potential rich Sheikh takeover with Rafa as manager to....
Mike Ashley still at Newcastle, with no new players, and Steve Bruce as manager
plus potential legal dispute with Sheffield Wednesday
And we think we have it bad.

An absolute shitshow. They need to seriously kick off this year.
 

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Nice bloke my ar*e sh*t on Wednesday by walking out after they delayed his start by a month to allow him to go to Australia- i know it was a tribute to his dad and have no issues with that but nice blokes dont walk out on a club at the drop of a hat- 3rd time he has done it- hope he gets sacked before Christmas.
No need to hope, he surely will. Not cut out to be a manager and the fans dont want him.
 

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Although results were fairly dire - gifting hopeless Derby County 4 of the 11 points they finished with - he was hardly hounded out by a rabid mob. Allardyce was a Freddy Shepherd appointment. Mike Ashley dumped him at an opportune time to get Keegan in.

Allardyce's training was good for a laugh though. Imagine the joy of hearing that oaf blaring 1890's tactics at you over the PA.

I stand corrected. I just can't get this image out of my mind of these guys behind the dugout spewing daggers at the. man
 

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Ashley, Newcastle United and Bruce the manager

A perfect storm

It's not going to end well.
 

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Happy for Bruce to get to manage his boyhood club but what a toxic atmosphere to walk into, fans already want you out, the owner who didn't cough up £17m for their top goalscorer last season, along with probably Newcastle's must effective player already sold. (Perez)

But what a tight owner Mike is with money, looks to me anyway that he made Bruce and his staff resign from Sheffield Wednesday to save from paying the full (if any) the compensation to Wednesday.

Can't wait for Shearer's rages on motd next season..
 

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OK, it's not a very exciting appointment and the whole sugar daddy takeover hasn't happened. But what I don't understand is how Benitez is totally absolved of any blame here. If it's true Bruce is getting 50m to play with in the market plus sales (which is already what, 40m?) how exactly did Benitez leave for ambitious reasons? He went to China to cash in. And he still has the respect of the Newcastle fans. I don't get it.
 

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Nice bloke my ar*e sh*t on Wednesday by walking out after they delayed his start by a month to allow him to go to Australia- i know it was a tribute to his dad and have no issues with that but nice blokes dont walk out on a club at the drop of a hat- 3rd time he has done it- hope he gets sacked before Christmas.
Clubs reap what they sow. Bruce would be out on his arse by October if Wednesday were to start the season terribly. The last thing that managers owe clubs is loyalty.
 

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OK, it's not a very exciting appointment and the whole sugar daddy takeover hasn't happened. But what I don't understand is how Benitez is totally absolved of any blame here. If it's true Bruce is getting 50m to play with in the market plus sales (which is already what, 40m?) how exactly did Benitez leave for ambitious reasons? He went to China to cash in. And he still has the respect of the Newcastle fans. I don't get it.
The demands Benitez put forth, as far as I've read and know, were around the ambition of the club, improving facilities - NUFC Have some league 2 level training facilities - and having way more control over transfers, i.e. not dragging every transfer out until the last minute.

Also - again from what I've heard - what's unfortunately missed in the transfer kitty talk is that the 50m is the budget not only for the transfer fee of incoming but expected to fund their agent fees and salary whilst here. Ashley and Charnley's way of budgeting things is absolutely fecked.

Bruce is walking into a nightmare job and it's going to end horribly. He's absolute pants at his job as well so at least the neutrals/rivals will be entertained by our struggling. For me, I'm done with the club until Ashley fecks off or dies.
 

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Shocking appointment. Sometimes it really looks like Ashley is just on a giant wind up. You could put someone in charge of Newcastle with the clear mandate to make the most illogical or ones that would antagonise the supporters the most, and they wouldn't be able to do as good a job as Ashley is doing.

You have a manager who is much loved....try to make life as difficult as possible for him, which ultimately forces him out.

Most clubs are trying to appoint progressive, fairly young managers...employ one who is unfortunately stuck in a bygone football era.

You have the option to buy the striker who has shown he is a good fit for your club and will score goals for you, for relatively very cheap deal.....let him go.

Staggering. You gotta feel sorry for Newcastle fans.
 

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The demands Benitez put forth, as far as I've read and know, were around the ambition of the club, improving facilities - NUFC Have some league 2 level training facilities - and having way more control over transfers, i.e. not dragging every transfer out until the last minute.

Also - again from what I've heard - what's unfortunately missed in the transfer kitty talk is that the 50m is the budget not only for the transfer fee of incoming but expected to fund their agent fees and salary whilst here. Ashley and Charnley's way of budgeting things is absolutely fecked.

Bruce is walking into a nightmare job and it's going to end horribly. He's absolute pants at his job as well so at least the neutrals/rivals will be entertained by our struggling. For me, I'm done with the club until Ashley fecks off or dies.
I mean this with the greatest respect, I can't even imagine what that feels like. United fans are blessed in comparison and that's saying something...
 

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Shocking appointment. Sometimes it really looks like Ashley is just on a giant wind up. You could put someone in charge of Newcastle with the clear mandate to make the most illogical or ones that would antagonise the supporters the most, and they wouldn't be able to do as good a job as Ashley is doing.

You have a manager who is much loved....try to make life as difficult as possible for him, which ultimately forces him out.

Most clubs are trying to appoint progressive, fairly young managers...employ one who is unfortunately stuck in a bygone football era.

You have the option to buy the striker who has shown he is a good fit for your club and will score goals for you, for relatively very cheap deal.....let him go.

Staggering. You gotta feel sorry for Newcastle fans.
I'll never feel sorry for Newcastle fans, they deserve the misery :lol:.
 

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I hope, and believe, you have said this in a kind of jestful way. There is no joy in any one dying, they always leave loved ones behind, at the end of the day it is only football.
 
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The demands Benitez put forth, as far as I've read and know, were around the ambition of the club, improving facilities - NUFC Have some league 2 level training facilities - and having way more control over transfers, i.e. not dragging every transfer out until the last minute.

Also - again from what I've heard - what's unfortunately missed in the transfer kitty talk is that the 50m is the budget not only for the transfer fee of incoming but expected to fund their agent fees and salary whilst here. Ashley and Charnley's way of budgeting things is absolutely fecked.

Bruce is walking into a nightmare job and it's going to end horribly. He's absolute pants at his job as well so at least the neutrals/rivals will be entertained by our struggling. For me, I'm done with the club until Ashley fecks off or dies.
OK, fair enough, regarding how terribly the club is run. I feel for you lot. I'm still surprised Benitez went to a nothing league chasing money.
 

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I actually think Ashley is on a wind-up. He knows the Newcastle fans hate him and he's got dogs abuse over the years. Probably started the rumour this summer that some Middle Eastern billionaire was taking over to get them excited then proceeded to push Rafa out the door then thought it would be a laugh to appoint Big Sam/Bruce.

It's a toxic club and will be till Ashley sells up. I used to work at their training ground and Academy and yes the facilities compared to others are really below standard. I can understand why Rafa wanted improved facilities as they are very dated and not big enough for a PL club.
 

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Yea but Ole isnt English, Ole didnt have an owner who was a target of fans for years prio appointment, Cardiff biggest sin till that moment was change color of their kits. But i get what you mean.
Plus (pedant alert) he wasn’t sacked for relegating them. It was his inability to get them going in the Championship that did for him.
 

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As much as I like the guy, you cannot be a sucessful football manager at that level when you have important issues of your own. How can Brucey for example, drill into his players the importance of a healthy diet. It's like going to see a doctor who's blowing smoke into your face and telling you to lay off the fags. He's obviously got health issues and in taking this job he's certainly not thinking of his loved ones. Mad decision!
 

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This is going to be an unpopular opinion but I think Bruce going to Newcastle was like us appointing Ole. Both boards have appointed someone so grateful to be there they won't rock the boat.
I agree and sometimes it is best not to rock the boat, stabilize and then start again.
 

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I agree and sometimes it is best not to rock the boat, stabilize and then start again.
That of course depends if they are capable of stabilising or simply being helpless to do anything as standards continue to disappear.