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While I love all the tacklings, isn't that a bit of a bad point given the risk of all those potential penalties and fouls in dangerous areas to give away?

I think he should clean up his game a bit where he doesn't resort to lounging into 4 or 5 tackles every games.
 

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Not when his timing is as good as it is.
Well that's true when the timing is good obviously but he won't be getting away with that volume of lounging tackles against top tier players. They're far too smart and skillfull to let themselves tackled that easily without drawing a foul or downright skinning the player. I genuinely think it's something he has to work on.

All those tacklings look exiting but aren't really viable ways to play at the very highest level especially against top tier oppositions. Tackling should honestly be last resorts in most cases, not routine plays ditched out 4 or 5 times a game.

In fact I believe in some cases he didn't even have to tackle but just block the shot. He easily kept up with his player and could have just opted to stand his ground and would have stop the player from crossing. I guess tackling just feels too good to not be tempted or something.
 

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Well that's true when the timing is good obviously but he won't be getting away with that volume of lounging tackles against top tier players. They're far too smart and skillfull to let themselves tackled that easily without drawing a foul or downright skinning the player. I genuinely think it's something he has to work on.

All those tacklings look exiting but aren't really viable ways to play at the very highest level especially against top tier oppositions. Tackling should honestly be last resorts in most cases, not routine plays ditched out 4 or 5 times a game.

In fact I believe in some cases he didn't even have to tackle but just block the shot. He easily kept up with his player and could have just opted to stand his ground and would have stop the player from crossing. I guess tackling just feels too good to not be tempted or something.
He had a 70% tackling success rate, completed 0 last man tackles, had 0 errors leading to goals and didn’t give away a penalty while playing for Palace, when he faced many top tier players you are referring to.

There is nothing wrong with tackles as long as the player is very good at them, and he is. It’s not like he is a foul machine either - he committed only 25 fouls in 42 games playing in a team that always sits back and invites pressure.

He was only dribbled past a total of 7 times. For context, fellow full-back and closest challenger to his tackle total last season Ricardo Pereira (89) was dribbled past 44 times.
 
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What a guy. Instantly one of my favourite players on the pre season with some of the younger lads. Long may it continue, hope he stays injury free and keeps on working hard.
 

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Well that's true when the timing is good obviously but he won't be getting away with that volume of lounging tackles against top tier players. They're far too smart and skillfull to let themselves tackled that easily without drawing a foul or downright skinning the player. I genuinely think it's something he has to work on.

All those tacklings look exiting but aren't really viable ways to play at the very highest level especially against top tier oppositions. Tackling should honestly be last resorts in most cases, not routine plays ditched out 4 or 5 times a game.

In fact I believe in some cases he didn't even have to tackle but just block the shot. He easily kept up with his player and could have just opted to stand his ground and would have stop the player from crossing. I guess tackling just feels too good to not be tempted or something.
We haven't signed him from some farmer league. He literally did exactly that last season, in the same league, playing with far less talented players.
 

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Looks top quality from what I’ve seen on the footage of pre season tour. He’s one of those who make the game look ridiculously easy and dare I say it but £50m doesn’t look a spend that is over the top.
 

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Ole said he can rival to James in sprints.

He seems a good defender. Funny how people said he is not worth the price. We will see.

I hope he improves his passing/crossing a bit so that he will help us offensively as well.
I always said pay whatever they ask and think the fee was the right one for both parties.....we will be talking about it as a bargain in years to come though
 

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Well that's true when the timing is good obviously but he won't be getting away with that volume of lounging tackles against top tier players. They're far too smart and skillfull to let themselves tackled that easily without drawing a foul or downright skinning the player. I genuinely think it's something he has to work on.

All those tacklings look exiting but aren't really viable ways to play at the very highest level especially against top tier oppositions. Tackling should honestly be last resorts in most cases, not routine plays ditched out 4 or 5 times a game.

In fact I believe in some cases he didn't even have to tackle but just block the shot. He easily kept up with his player and could have just opted to stand his ground and would have stop the player from crossing. I guess tackling just feels too good to not be tempted or something.
Normally I would completely agree with what you are saying here, but have been watching him from when he first broke through and he has always tackled this way and his timing is so good he hardly ever seems to foul he is that good with his timing
 

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His long legs actually seem to make that style of tackling more appropriate for him. A player with shorter gams would be committing fouls.
 

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While I love all the tacklings, isn't that a bit of a bad point given the risk of all those potential penalties and fouls in dangerous areas to give away?

I think he should clean up his game a bit where he doesn't resort to lounging into 4 or 5 tackles every games.
This is how I feel too. His tough tackling is great for looks. But, needs to be cleaner.
 

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This is how I feel too. His tough tackling is great for looks. But, needs to be cleaner.
Someone earlier said he never gave away a penalty last season and only committed 25 fouls all season. The lad knows what he's doing.
 

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This is how I feel too. His tough tackling is great for looks. But, needs to be cleaner.
Tough tackling is not just about looking good. It enforces respect and some fear into the opposition players - they would damn well know not to mess with him or try to go 1v1 against him.
 

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Tough tackling is not just about looking good. It enforces respect and some fear into the opposition players - they would damn well know not to mess with him or try to go 1v1 against him.
Well, some do it just for the look while being not really a good defender. I would be more afraid going against a defender who just takes the ball off from me with no effort like I was not there than some thug trying to show how good they are.

Obviously, I don't mean that he is just like that. But, some of the clearance from his tackling seems a bit messy so far. But, it is still preseason.
 

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Well, some do it just for the look while being not really a good defender. I would be more afraid going against a defender who just takes the ball off from me with no effort like I was not there than some thug trying to show how good they are.

Obviously, I don't mean that he is just like that. But, some of the clearance from his tackling seems a bit messy so far. But, it is still preseason.
It frustrates the player that plays in AWB's zone, don't dwell on it so much man, you seem to just be looking for a negative out of it. Not everyone has to have the same style, I actually love that Wan-Bissaka is different, it shows confidence and a lot of ability.
 

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It frustrates the player that plays in AWB's zone, don't dwell on it so much man, you seem to just be looking for a negative out of it. Not everyone has to have the same style, I actually love that Wan-Bissaka is different, it shows confidence and a lot of ability.
It is not about trying to find a negative.

Every player has a weakness or two. I just seem to think it might be his. But, like I said, it is a preseason and I could be wrong.
 

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Well that's true when the timing is good obviously but he won't be getting away with that volume of lounging tackles against top tier players. They're far too smart and skillfull to let themselves tackled that easily without drawing a foul or downright skinning the player. I genuinely think it's something he has to work on.

All those tacklings look exiting but aren't really viable ways to play at the very highest level especially against top tier oppositions. Tackling should honestly be last resorts in most cases, not routine plays ditched out 4 or 5 times a game.

In fact I believe in some cases he didn't even have to tackle but just block the shot. He easily kept up with his player and could have just opted to stand his ground and would have stop the player from crossing. I guess tackling just feels too good to not be tempted or something.
You mean by diving? there's VAR now.
 

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It is not about trying to find a negative.

Every player has a weakness or two. I just seem to think it might be his. But, like I said, it is a preseason and I could be wrong.
So you think his best asset is a weakness? :lol: Talk about not looking for negatives.

You seem pretty set on that opinion so I'm not going to continue with this, but the facts are there to see for everyone to see. If people want to fit something in their agenda, everything can be twisted to make it seem that way.
 

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While I love all the tacklings, isn't that a bit of a bad point given the risk of all those potential penalties and fouls in dangerous areas to give away?

I think he should clean up his game a bit where he doesn't resort to lounging into 4 or 5 tackles every games.
Any other player and I'd agree with you, but AWB is so ridiculously good at it that it works for him. He is very likely the best pure tackler in the world today, and he could very well go down as one of the best ever. That's how good at it he is.

My only small worry is whether it'll continue to work later in his career when he's starting to lose a bit of speed and explosiveness. But that's so far away.
 

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Someone earlier said he never gave away a penalty last season and only committed 25 fouls all season. The lad knows what he's doing.
Impressive.
25 fouls in 42 games playing in a team that always sits back and invites pressure.

He was only dribbled past a total of 7 times only. For context, fellow full-back and closest challenger to his tackle total last season Ricardo Pereira (89) was dribbled past 44 times.
 

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He actually broke their entire left flank :lol:

First Dalbert tried to get past on pace. Didn't work.
Then he tried to dribble past him. Got tackled to death.
Then he started rolling on the ground hoping for some sympathy from the ref. Everyone just ignored him.

What a performance. What a player.
 

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Early days, but starting to look like another one the accountants on here got wrong.
 

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He will be a great signing for sure. He obviously won't change the way we play and points gained will be relatively low for this signing given his position but we need more players like him, basically someone who can be around for the next 10 years, keep playing at a high level and develop further.

If only we could find a few Wan-Bissakas for our midfield and attack.
 

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Tough tackling is not just about looking good. It enforces respect and some fear into the opposition players - they would damn well know not to mess with him or try to go 1v1 against him.
Yes, quite true. Did you look at Dalbert (Inter's LB) after he got tacked a couple of times? He started giving early crosses in the fear of getting tacked again. :lol:
 

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So you think his best asset is a weakness? :lol: Talk about not looking for negatives.

You seem pretty set on that opinion so I'm not going to continue with this, but the facts are there to see for everyone to see. If people want to fit something in their agenda, everything can be twisted to make it seem that way.
Said not going to continue then kept on going about having an agenda. ok.
 

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Love his style of play- will definitely be a fans favourite! My one massive worry is whether his body will stand up to the style of play (long term)! From personal experience, his body will not cope beyond 25 unless he calms down the last ditched tackles!
 
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