I think a younger player with more years on his contract and plays in a position where you only have one other specialist in that position is worth more to Spurs than a CB in his thirties with 1 year left on his contract in a position where you have 2 specialists sitting on the bench waiting to replace him, yes
Well now you’re moving the goalposts.
I'm not moving any goalposts you've just failed to understand from the get go
We want to keep Toby. We didn't want to keep Trippier. It's not rocket science really.
Well we'll see won't we if you have an offer after this clause expires. I expect though if no offer comes in now then one won't come in at all
It is in both the player's and other clubs' best interest to just negotiate a pre-contract in January.
I think plenty of clubs have contacted Toby’s agent, I just don’t think Toby or his agent feel the offer was enough, Toby waiting till next year and cash in.
Well it's not like you can prove any different yourselfBrilliant attempt to cover yourself there for when he's never sold.
He will go on a free, I am 99% sure on this, I also think there is a very good chance he returns to Ajax.
I’m saying he’s 100% not being sold by our volition with zero added maybes and ifs. I’m not trying to cover for being wrong which is quite different.
And you'll never be able to prove he 100% wont be sold if no offers ever come in can you?
Do you really think, that clubs haven't spoken to Toby's agent regarding what sort of contract he is looking for, and indeed probably had contract offers made to him, Toby IMO has simply rejected them as he knows he will get more next season. In a world where we are talking about £80-£90M for Maguire of course clubs would have wanted Toby for £25M, that's less that what Mings went for.
I expect you're right and no one will pay up this summer, too many incentives for both other clubs and the player to sit out the final year but that's not what me and the other Spurs fan are discussing. He's under the impression that a 25m bid wouldn't be accepted by Spurs should it come in after the clause in the contract expires.
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What the feck would they chase Maguire for to turn to Toby? Very strange. Leicester don’t wamna sell so this would be music to their ears.
Just an added bit of pressure on Leicester and Maguire. If Leicester want to sell, doubtful admittedly, but possible, or Harry really wants to come here, then we are just upping the ante to see if anyone rises.
They clearly don’t wanna sell, and Maguire I don’t think will do much to force anything a year into a new contract.
They face going into the season with their best CB unsettled and angling for a move. Not the best case scenario if Maguire felt United offered a fair fee for himself.
He’s not.
Maguire hasn't said a word publically as far as I am aware, what is the difference with them keeping Maguire and you keeping Pogba?
I think clubs have contacted his agent and his agent have told them what the wages they are looking for are, and as you say they have said thanks but no thanks. I was looking back at Toby's comments over the last season or 2 and they all seem to point at running down his contract. Things like, "there has been no new contract discussion" and "I intend to honour the rest of my contract" , not word for word but the main jist.
Maguire would be double though.
I would be pretty sure, you have contacted Toby's agent and Toby either said he's not interested or Woodward has said no to his wages, no point activating the release clause if both parties are way of on personal terms.
He is 4 years younger though.
Says Matt Law. But in the same paper James Ducker says there are no plans to trigger the clause.
Yeah silly season is well and truly on, click bate BS everywhere.
He hasn't said anything publicly but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to move. The slight difference is there is a reported big offer for Maguire, which frankly is already too much, while Real are speculating with an insulting offer for a player of Pogba's level.
Both clubs have publicly stated the players aren't for sale, Pogba is much, much more outspoken than Maguire who is just on season into his new contract. I believe Maguire would like the move, however hasn't stated he wants to leave Leicester, while Pogba/his agent has stated he wants to leave United.
They have, and you and me both know that there is factor that when a player wants a move they will get it one way or another, as long as there is a club committed to paying a proper fee. The United towards Leicester fees mentioned are pretty fair and already overpriced when you take into account the De Ligt transfer for instance.
Don't get me wrong, I cannot stand Madrid and while I think Pogba is an outstanding player I don't like how he has gone about his transfer and hope you make him stay or get what his market value is probably £125-£150M.
That is absolutely fine and I agree, if Real come in with a 150m pounds offer, I think the move will be done eventually, which would be fair since Pogba wants the move.
Assuming a £250k p/w wage and a £25m fee, Alderweireld on a 3-year deal would work out at £21,3m per year. Maguire, assuming a £200k p/w wage and a fee of £80m would work out at £26,6m per year. That's how clubs calculate transfers, as fees are amortised over the length of the initial contract. I also used what I consider to be a high wage estimate for Maguire, so his yearly cost may well be lower.
