Scholsey2004
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Because all our transfers happen in slow motion now.Really? Then why does it takes over 4 weeks?
Because all our transfers happen in slow motion now.Really? Then why does it takes over 4 weeks?
But even if McTominay maintains his performance and continue to improve, we only have 2 starters in midfield.preseason games are difficult to gauge but if Bailly's injury may have added a bit more urgency possibly even more money to the Maguire deal. Then McT's performance may have done the opposite to any Longstaff deal
Agree. If Mac gets injured or suspended we will be in trouble. Garner is still too young to be regular. Seeing how well Alex has done I think a midfielder (either DM or box to box with good defensive qualities) is more important than MaguireBut even if McTominay maintains his performance and continue to improve, we only have 2 starters in midfield.
Andreas indeed does look better than in the past, so at this rate he might be a squad option - but definitely not more than that, we need reinforcements.
That depends entirely on which league Newcastle will be playing in for 2020/21.If he doesn't come in this transfer window, the price will be much higher in the next one.
Technically very good and a very mobile player. But according to people that know him well, his fitness/endurance levels are described as being 'ridiculously' high.He looks technically good. But I think the more important aspect to his game is his mobility. Ole clearly has a new gameplan for this season, and Longstaff seems to typify it.
Apparently, he put in the most distance in all of his games for Newcastle.
A midfield duo of McTomminay and Lonstaff, with James/Lingard on the wings, AWB/Shaw at fullback and Rashford up front would be impossible to outwork.
It'd be interesting if he could measure up against James' bleep test record.Technically very good and a very mobile player. But according to people that know him well, his fitness/endurance levels are described as being 'ridiculously' high.
Why 'but'?Technically very good and a very mobile player. But according to people that know him well, his fitness/endurance levels are described as being 'ridiculously' high.
I was thinking that. Seems like a positive, not a ‘but’.Why 'but'?
same. Still hope it happens!Of all signings, I wish for this one the most. Fits my criteria of a signing and view of United's style down to a tee.
Was multitasking at the time so ignore the 'but'Why 'but'?
He will surely cost more next season.Either buy him this season or return next season when Newcastle get relegated.
Perez had a release clause.This should have been the first transfer. If we had gone before Newcastle sold Perez, longstaff would be playing for us now.
I don’t think that’s at all relevant to the point he’s making.Perez had a release clause.
So what point is he making?I don’t think that’s at all relevant to the point he’s making.
How was his goal today?
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Another screamer from Longstaff. Hardly surprising at this stage. He's got a cannon.
I still think we'll try again for him. Matic and Fred look hopeless. We can really go through a season with Pogba and Scott as our only proper CMs.[/QUOTE]
I don't think we will go back in for for him, if the £50m I've seen quoted has any truth to it, it looks they are setting a stupidly high price no-one will pay because they genuinely want to keep him. Although I totally agree with the point in bold.
It probably makes sense though depending on what Newcastle are looking for. Signing a player after a handful of PL games only really makes sense if you think you're getting a bargain. If it looks like Newcastle are demanding too much, you may as well wait another year. How much would his value realistically increase in that time?this has gone quiet it seems. Damn shame.
Yep no rush on this one, if anything him staying at Newcastle is the best thing for himIt probably makes sense though depending on what Newcastle are looking for. Signing a player after a handful of PL games only really makes sense if you think you're getting a bargain. If it looks like Newcastle are demanding too much, you may as well wait another year. How much would his value realistically increase in that time?
Sorry, been out of this thread for a few days but wanted to acknowledge your response as is so detailed.Thanks for such a thorough reply. This is a post which I 100% respect. I believe that Ed Woodward cares more about making money for the club than he does about the results on the pitch, I take this from the quote "Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business."
I agree with the point of not paying stupid money, if we agreed a fee of e.g £25m, then suddenly the selling club decided they want to change the fee to £50 million later just because they think we will pay it will bite us in the long term as every team would think that they could do us and that could effect us.
If we have a certain budget which I don't have a clue could be and clubs started demanding stupid fees above the valuation I think this could effect the amount of players we are able to purchase as if we wanted 3 players which were valued at £50 then each club said they wanted an extra £20m per player that would mean if agree to their demands we would be £60m down, thus preventing us from using that money to buy another player. I do realise that if another exec paid whatever the extra fee the selling club wanted would make them look like a better CEO in some fans eyes as he has got us the players that we wanted.
Regarding the point in bold, I know we have spent a lot of money under Woodward and I think a lot of has been wasted, due to this happening I think he feels we got conned and is reluctant to pay certain fees as he doesn't want to get bitten again and end up wasting millions like has happened before.
I believe that Woody has so much faith in his own knowledge that he is unwilling to take advice from people who know more about football than him, this is why I feel that we should have got a DoF in a long time ago and we wouldn't be in this situation. If we had a DoF in, I believe that some peoples opinion of Woodward change and he wouldn't get as much stick as he is getting now.
I think it is unrealistic for us to want all the players now and win all the trophies as this is a rebuilding process and I realise that it is going to take more than one summer transfer, although I would like few more players in so that we don'f fall further behind the big teams. I think we should keep on building and get the necessary signings and hope that each one is successful and as long as this keeps on progressing steadily, I think we will be in a position to compete for the League in the 22/23 season, which might not be to some fans liking but I think we have to have patience and faith in Ole that the job is going to get done satisfactorily.
I don't think that Woody is very good in the market and the reason I have no faith in him is that I believe that the only selling point he has is offering wages that not many other clubs are willing to pay. I believe he should try to sell the project to the player. As of the moment we are in a mess and without Champions League football, this is a major obstacle in signing players. I think Woody should try to convince a player that by coming here now by getting them to accept the challenge of trying to make us great again and that player could go down in our history as has having a significant participation in doing so and having the chance of becoming a legend here for providing a vital contribution in making us great again.
I agree with your point of us getting players from rivals but I think a lot of that is down to offering obscene wages like I mentioned above. I don't agree with us just working on one transfer at a time as think that is going to affect us which seems to be the case at the moment may leave it too late in the transfer window to complete the deal or if the deal doesn't work out should we choose to go for an alternative we will be quoted higher prices due to to the selling team knowing we are becoming desperate at that point, which I think is a fault of Woody.
He may feel that the squad is already good enough for top 4, which I feel it currently is not and this could be the reason why we are taking so long on these supposed transfers as when they don't happen he can say something like "well we tried but negotiations took too long, so we were unable to sign player x" so that he doesn't look bad in the eyes of the fans and makes it look as if we are actually trying to sign players we are not.
I personally don't think that Woody is going to to pull this off due to pace we have been working at the moment in the market, he might surprise me which I really hope he does.