What next for Mourinho?

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I can see him as a potential Kovac successor. I've read an interview a few days ago, where he said that he is learning german and that he would like to work in the Bundesliga, because he worked in England, Spain and Italy already.

Hopefully not. Can't imagine a worse fit for Bayern. He should go to PSG and Tuchel to Bayern.
Can't imagine that either club will be keen to hire him. PSG don't want the hassle, they are tired of negative headlines related to players so I doubt they'll be all that interested in going for a manager known for negative headlines.
 

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I can see him as a potential Kovac successor. I've read an interview a few days ago, where he said that he is learning german and that he would like to work in the Bundesliga, because he worked in England, Spain and Italy already.

Hopefully not. Can't imagine a worse fit for Bayern. He should go to PSG and Tuchel to Bayern.
Your club would be crazy to go for Mourinho.
 

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https://www.skysports.com/football/...f-fire-ahead-of-return-to-football-management

"I miss my football, I have the fire, I have a compromise with myself, with people that love me, with so many fans that I have around the world, so many people that I inspired.

"Ze has to be Ze and Ze until the last day, but I don't see the last day because my next move will be like the start! I don't feel it's just one more year in accumulation of how many years I've worked, how many titles I've won. That is history, that is the museum!


"Why do I say 'no'? I say 'no' because it's not [at] the level of challenge that I want. But, with all respect to the possibilities I have had and the clubs involved, I want the right to choose the people who are 'Mourinhista' - like people say in Portugal, Spain and Italy - 'Mourinhista' is someone who is a fan.

"The 'Mourinhistas' want me where I belong, so, for me now, it's not a question of [saying], 'okay I have this offer and I'm going to take it'. I have to be patient and wait for the right opportunity and the right opportunity is one that is at the same size and the same level that I am as a manager.
In few words he's still not happy
 

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https://www.skysports.com/football/...f-fire-ahead-of-return-to-football-management

"I miss my football, I have the fire, I have a compromise with myself, with people that love me, with so many fans that I have around the world, so many people that I inspired.

"Ze has to be Ze and Ze until the last day, but I don't see the last day because my next move will be like the start! I don't feel it's just one more year in accumulation of how many years I've worked, how many titles I've won. That is history, that is the museum!


"Why do I say 'no'? I say 'no' because it's not [at] the level of challenge that I want. But, with all respect to the possibilities I have had and the clubs involved, I want the right to choose the people who are 'Mourinhista' - like people say in Portugal, Spain and Italy - 'Mourinhista' is someone who is a fan.

"The 'Mourinhistas' want me where I belong, so, for me now, it's not a question of [saying], 'okay I have this offer and I'm going to take it'. I have to be patient and wait for the right opportunity and the right opportunity is one that is at the same size and the same level that I am as a manager.
Yeah pretty much called it. Not considering a national team and will only go to a top 5 league, which obviously includes England. Doesn't leave him much options.

I think he's waiting for the Man City job to become available as he'd love to get one over United.

The likelihood of him getting a club in the next 2 years with my speculation as to his chances are below. His options would therefore be:

Man United - 0% chance (never again!!)
Man City - 25% chance (would love to take on United with oil money)
Tottenham Hotspur - 25% chance (Poch could leave? Are they big enough?)
Liverpool - 0% chance (would be great if he went there but can't see it)
Chelsea - 10% chance (will Lampard succeed? Surely not a third time?)
Arsenal - 0% chance (Arsenal fans would burn the Emirates down)
Real Madrid - 75% chance (probably best route back. Zidane won't last)
Barcelona - 10% chance (can't see it myself having managed Real)
Atletico Madrid - 10% chance (not 'big enough' for him?)
Juventus - 75% chance (best chance along with Real. Sarri a doubt)
Napoli - 20% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Juve)
Inter Milan - 50% chance (only because of past connections)
Bayern Munich - 50% chance (easy job for him, not much of a challenge)
Borussia Dortmund - 25% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Bayern)
PSG - 50% chance (easy challenge but weakest of the 5 leagues)

This is just my take on his chances of likely destinations. Just from the trailer though, he's still as arrogant as ever. Said he's not interested for now in taking on a real challenge of transforming a sleeping giant into a powerhouse. He just wants one of the big clubs.

The problem is, how many of the big clubs would want him?
 

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Yeah pretty much called it. Not considering a national team and will only go to a top 5 league, which obviously includes England. Doesn't leave him much options.

I think he's waiting for the Man City job to become available as he'd love to get one over United.

The likelihood of him getting a club in the next 2 years with my speculation as to his chances are below. His options would therefore be:

Man United - 0% chance (never again!!)
Man City - 25% chance (would love to take on United with oil money)
Tottenham Hotspur - 25% chance (Poch could leave? Are they big enough?)
Liverpool - 0% chance (would be great if he went there but can't see it)
Chelsea - 10% chance (will Lampard succeed? Surely not a third time?)
Arsenal - 0% chance (Arsenal fans would burn the Emirates down)
Real Madrid - 75% chance (probably best route back. Zidane won't last)
Barcelona - 10% chance (can't see it myself having managed Real)
Atletico Madrid - 10% chance (not 'big enough' for him?)
Juventus - 75% chance (best chance along with Real. Sarri a doubt)
Napoli - 20% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Juve)
Inter Milan - 50% chance (only because of past connections)
Bayern Munich - 50% chance (easy job for him, not much of a challenge)
Borussia Dortmund - 25% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Bayern)
PSG - 50% chance (easy challenge but weakest of the 5 leagues)
Don't see any viable option for him in the near future.

City are trying to replicate the Barca model. Any manager they bring in will have to play the same style as Pep. Mourinho could pay them to work there & they still wouldn't take him. The rest of the PL are also non starters.

The only Spanish club he could go to is Real. Barca have already declined his services. Atletico suit his play style but they don't have the money to indulge him in the transfer market. I can see Zidane failing at Real but would Mourinho then go if they came calling. There would be no money for transfers & he'd already be behind the 8 ball.

Bayern don't like him & PSG don't want any bad PR .

I think ideally he'd like to go to Juventus. I think they have Pep lined up though as he could finish his City contract, take a sabbatical & then go straight in to replace Sarri.
 

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Nobody knocking on his door
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go to Top 5 leages - yes
go to the rest - no, maybe
will you go Back to PL - yes
 

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I really can't imagine a German club hiring him. Ever. He's just completely at odds with German football culture. So it seems weird for him to learn German.
 

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I really can't imagine a German club hiring him. Ever. He's just completely at odds with German football culture. So it seems weird for him to learn German.
He’s a well read man, I don’t think it’s surprising he’s using his time off to learn a new language regardless of where he’s going to work next.
 

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I still think he's a top manager and he could do a great job in loads of clubs. But his continued press briefings about how he's waiting for the right opportunity and that he's learning all the time smack of desperation.

If he doesn't take over at the Bernabeu once Zizou is sacked, he'll be a national team manager after the Euros. I can't really see other options out there for him.
 

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I still think he's a top manager and he could do a great job in loads of clubs. But his continued press briefings about how he's waiting for the right opportunity and that he's learning all the time smack of desperation.

If he doesn't take over at the Bernabeu once Zizou is sacked, he'll be a national team manager after the Euros. I can't really see other options out there for him.
Euro? He will get the job before by the sound of it. We may not even qualify, if you take schedule in consideration (we have to play Serbia and Mykraine away). We're doing a piss poor qualifying round overall. We will get that extra playoff spot due to winning nations league, though.
 

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I really can't imagine a German club hiring him. Ever. He's just completely at odds with German football culture. So it seems weird for him to learn German.
Germans do seem to enjoy managers with erratic behavior, and you don't even need to dig much to find german/bundesliga managers who won titles and were complete nutcases :D

So I guess Mourinho at Bundesliga is not out of equation.
 

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The look on Jose's face when Ole sends out AWB, Dybala, Fernandes and his precious Maguire against Chelsea :drool:

Almost worth spending the money on Maguire just to annoy that miserable fecker
 

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The look on Jose's face when Ole sends out AWB, Dybala, Fernandes and his precious Maguire against Chelsea :drool:

Almost worth spending the money on Maguire just to annoy that miserable fecker
Yep. Must be worth spending double the money on a player a year after the board said hes not good enough. Great business.
 

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Germans do seem to enjoy managers with erratic behavior, and you don't even need to dig much to find german/bundesliga managers who won titles and were complete nutcases :D

So I guess Mourinho at Bundesliga is not out of equation.
It's less about being a bit mental and more about:

-His tactics, people are used to Heynckes, Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Favre, Bosz and to a lesser degree Hütter and Kohfeldt, I don't think fans or the press would accept him playing destructive football with 8 defenders.

-Money, even leaving aside his wages, German clubs are forced to think about the future when signing players, they usually can't/won't buy 30 year olds like Matic, Sanchez or Perisic for significant money and aside from Bayern no one can dream to spend nearly as much as Mourinho's previous clubs, instead they look for someone who is happy to work with younger players.

-DoFs, it's a powerful role at most clubs, who given Mourinho's taste for older players and not so high regard for technical skill would probably object to some of his transfers. Since most clubs don't have owners and club bosses have to rely on winning elections they are also quite allergic to coaches trying to drag out club business into the public. That kind of behavior was probably the biggest reason why Tuchel was fired at Dortmund.
 

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It's less about being a bit mental and more about:

-His tactics, people are used to Heynckes, Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Favre, Bosz and to a lesser degree Hütter and Kohfeldt, I don't think fans or the press would accept him playing destructive football with 8 defenders.

-Money, even leaving aside his wages, German clubs are forced to think about the future when signing players, they usually can't/won't buy 30 year olds like Matic, Sanchez or Perisic for significant money and aside from Bayern no one can dream to spend nearly as much as Mourinho's previous clubs, instead they look for someone who is happy to work with younger players.

-DoFs, it's a powerful role at most clubs, who given Mourinho's taste for older players and not so high regard for technical skill would probably object to some of his transfers. Since most clubs don't have owners and club bosses have to rely on winning elections they are also quite allergic to coaches trying to drag out club business into the public. That kind of behavior was probably the biggest reason why Tuchel was fired at Dortmund.
Fair enough.

The only way for Mourinho to enter Bundesliga market is going back to his roots like his job at Porto, where he had limited input on team transfer targets, since Porto always had an organized Football Department with tight criteria.
 

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I am not sure why he is including the French League in leagues he would be interested in. Have more challenge in Portugal, & probably better standard. Except PSG, who he would soon fall out with.
 

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The guy is waiting on:

PSG is fail to win the CL.
Zidane or Lampard to be gone by Christmas.
 

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Yeah pretty much called it. Not considering a national team and will only go to a top 5 league, which obviously includes England. Doesn't leave him much options.

I think he's waiting for the Man City job to become available as he'd love to get one over United.

The likelihood of him getting a club in the next 2 years with my speculation as to his chances are below. His options would therefore be:

Man United - 0% chance (never again!!)
Man City - 25% chance (would love to take on United with oil money)
Tottenham Hotspur - 25% chance (Poch could leave? Are they big enough?)
Liverpool - 0% chance (would be great if he went there but can't see it)
Chelsea - 10% chance (will Lampard succeed? Surely not a third time?)
Arsenal - 0% chance (Arsenal fans would burn the Emirates down)
Real Madrid - 75% chance (probably best route back. Zidane won't last)
Barcelona - 10% chance (can't see it myself having managed Real)
Atletico Madrid - 10% chance (not 'big enough' for him?)
Juventus - 75% chance (best chance along with Real. Sarri a doubt)
Napoli - 20% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Juve)
Inter Milan - 50% chance (only because of past connections)
Bayern Munich - 50% chance (easy job for him, not much of a challenge)
Borussia Dortmund - 25% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Bayern)
PSG - 50% chance (easy challenge but weakest of the 5 leagues)

This is just my take on his chances of likely destinations. Just from the trailer though, he's still as arrogant as ever. Said he's not interested for now in taking on a real challenge of transforming a sleeping giant into a powerhouse. He just wants one of the big clubs.

The problem is, how many of the big clubs would want him?
There's even less chance of a return to Chelsea than a return to United, the fact we've appointed an inexperienced manager yet to manage a top flight game (and we're going to do the exact same move had we sacked Sarri in March) with him a free agent says everything to what Roman/Marina think of his present day ability.

You're being very generous with your ratings, I would give him a 1% chance at best at any of those clubs. The only small chance is if Pochettino leaves Spurs and Levy gets so desperate to end the trophy drought he panics but other than that id be amazed.
 

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There's even less chance of a return to Chelsea than a return to United, the fact we've appointed an inexperienced manager yet to manage a top flight game (and we're going to do the exact same move had we sacked Sarri in March) with him a free agent says everything to what Roman/Marina think of his present day ability.

You're being very generous with your ratings, I would give him a 1% chance at best at any of those clubs. The only small chance is if Pochettino leaves Spurs and Levy gets so desperate to end the trophy drought he panics but other than that id be amazed.
Yeah I was being generous. Only because he has to go somewhere unless he lowers his expectations. I can't really see which of the big boys would take him apart from PSG. He is still very deluded about his standing within the game though.
 

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Yeah pretty much called it. Not considering a national team and will only go to a top 5 league, which obviously includes England. Doesn't leave him much options.

I think he's waiting for the Man City job to become available as he'd love to get one over United.

The likelihood of him getting a club in the next 2 years with my speculation as to his chances are below. His options would therefore be:

Man United - 0% chance (never again!!)
Man City - 25% chance (would love to take on United with oil money)
Tottenham Hotspur - 25% chance (Poch could leave? Are they big enough?)
Liverpool - 0% chance (would be great if he went there but can't see it)
Chelsea - 10% chance (will Lampard succeed? Surely not a third time?)
Arsenal - 0% chance (Arsenal fans would burn the Emirates down)
Real Madrid - 75% chance (probably best route back. Zidane won't last)
Barcelona - 10% chance (can't see it myself having managed Real)
Atletico Madrid - 10% chance (not 'big enough' for him?)
Juventus - 75% chance (best chance along with Real. Sarri a doubt)
Napoli - 20% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Juve)
Inter Milan - 50% chance (only because of past connections)
Bayern Munich - 50% chance (easy job for him, not much of a challenge)
Borussia Dortmund - 25% chance (he wouldn't fancy taking on Bayern)
PSG - 50% chance (easy challenge but weakest of the 5 leagues)

This is just my take on his chances of likely destinations. Just from the trailer though, he's still as arrogant as ever. Said he's not interested for now in taking on a real challenge of transforming a sleeping giant into a powerhouse. He just wants one of the big clubs.

The problem is, how many of the big clubs would want him?
Why would city want him when they have built a squad of players that doesn’t suit him would be a backward step
 

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Anyone seeing these Sky extracts from a Jose interview? Apparently he has been reading Darwin in a bid to become a better coach. All sounds like PR rubbish by him about how he is evolving and that he will adapt so on so on.
 

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Anyone seeing these Sky extracts from a Jose interview? Apparently he has been reading Darwin in a bid to become a better coach. All sounds like PR rubbish by him about how he is evolving and that he will adapt so on so on.
I thought it was piss funny.
 

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Anyone seeing these Sky extracts from a Jose interview? Apparently he has been reading Darwin in a bid to become a better coach. All sounds like PR rubbish by him about how he is evolving and that he will adapt so on so on.
He said similar when he returned to us. After we lost to Everton he said he was happier with a 1-0 loss while playing well as opposed to a gritty 1-0 win as it meant we were further ahead in the building process.

In fairness, I think he does actually mean it in theory. I do think he returned us with the idea of building something more sustainable and will go into next job if he gets one thinking likewise, but when the reality's of it creeps in (ie the short and maybe medium term sacrafices it entails) he will scrap the idea and go for whatever will help him win immediately.
 

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Anyone seeing these Sky extracts from a Jose interview? Apparently he has been reading Darwin in a bid to become a better coach. All sounds like PR rubbish by him about how he is evolving and that he will adapt so on so on.
Translation: 'I can't get a job because everyone hates my style.'
 

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I think and hope there is zero chance of a Chelsea return as long as Marina is in charge of things, though Cech being in position would worry me slightly.....

In the short term his best route back is probably if Zidane were to walk at Madrid.
 

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He should be fine if he adapts a bit and change few things in his way of doing a job.
 

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Think the major issue with him isn't his style, but that he just looks fecked. Doesn't have the passion he once had, which was what separated him from the rest.
 

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"You know, I sink... My friends told me...", it's so funny to listen to his interviews, always peddles the same BS. :lol:
 

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Inter or Madrid if Conte or Zidane miserably fail this late 2019.
Yep he'll get another top job sooner or later but there's no doubt his options are running out. He'll never manage in England again, I'm sure of that (well not unless another blank chequebook club appears out of nowhere)
 

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Guy is the epitome of a downer, he needs a major change in attitude before he goes anywhere else to manage.

I do however still think the game has somewhat passed him by.
 

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He should be fine if he adapts a bit and change few things in his way of doing a job.
Has any manager coming up to 60 ever done this? Wenger was set in his ways and never did and even lower down the rung you have Pulis playing the same way at every club he's at even when he gets decent money to spend.

Guess way of looking at it is sticking to what you know has got you twenty years of many millions, profile and a fair few trophies so not worth ripping up your own coaching manual when you hit a bit of turbulance.
 

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Has any manager coming up to 60 ever done this? Wenger was set in his ways and never did and even lower down the rung you have Pulis playing the same way at every club he's at even when he gets decent money to spend.

Guess way of looking at it is sticking to what you know has got you twenty years of many millions, profile and a fair few trophies so not worth ripping up your own coaching manual when you hit a bit of turbulance.
Yea i know what you mean but then he might wait a bit longer until someone forgets, at least he should use this period to refresh himself .
 

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Has any manager coming up to 60 ever done this? Wenger was set in his ways and never did and even lower down the rung you have Pulis playing the same way at every club he's at even when he gets decent money to spend.

Guess way of looking at it is sticking to what you know has got you twenty years of many millions, profile and a fair few trophies so not worth ripping up your own coaching manual when you hit a bit of turbulance.
He tried to play attacking football early last season but went back to parking his bus.
 

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I personally think he'll be coaching Real Madrid before 2020. I'll wait and see if i'm right :smirk:.
 

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Think the major issue with him isn't his style, but that he just looks fecked. Doesn't have the passion he once had, which was what separated him from the rest.
Yep, he looks depressed and tbh it has been this way for a long time now. Don't know about him lacking passion but there is exactly something wrong with the guy. Maybe he finds impossible to work with this new generation of players as they're mostly spoiled brats now? He always tried to create a siege mentality wherever he goes and just couldn't do it in his last 2 (maybe even 3) jobs. I remember in one interview he said something along the lines of "20 years ago players were men; now they are kids".
 

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Yep, he looks depressed and tbh it has been this way for a long time now. Don't know about him lacking passion but there is exactly something wrong with the guy. Maybe he finds impossible to work with this new generation of players as they're mostly spoiled brats now? He always tried to create a siege mentality wherever he goes and just couldn't do it in his last 2 (maybe even 3) jobs. I remember in one interview he said something along the lines of "20 years ago players were men; now they are kids".
Whatever makes him sleep at night.

Mourinho has a vast history of falling out with large parts of the squad, to such an extent that the only viable solution for the club is to sack him. It has nothing to do with a "new generation of players", Fergie even mentioned the need to handle players differently because they were millionaires at a young age, and that was 10 years ago, it's nothing new. Even Cristiano Ronaldo dislikes Mourinho. Why do other top managers fail to make such utter arses out of themselves at top clubs ?