Alemar
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We should at least sign some average DM. Someone who simply may run, tackle and make a 10 meter pass.
We should be able to do better though considering our stature and apparent financial power. If Lukaku goes, then that's an other £70m we could have spent on a midfielder too. It just seems like we didn't have any contingency plan if Dybala fell through, which at this stage in the window is stupid. The issue I have is that it's not the first time. We're consistently falling short every window. I'm worried that we will finish outside of the top four again and if we do that then we will only fall further behind.I agree with most of what you said. But it would have been criminal to go into the season with Young and Smalling in our back 4 too. We need reinforcements in every defence, midfield and attack. But look at the past years. Was it really to be expected that we were going to go all in? That's all i'm saying.
Herrera was apparently asking for unrealistic wages, and there aren't many British midfielders available in the transfer market. I imagine if there was a midfield equivalent of Maguire - a quite obvious transfer, we'd have gone all out. Our scope seem to be absolutely within the Premier League and the Football League.Our level of incompetence exceeds expectations. Lets start from CM. We allowed Herrera to leave and we will probably replacing him with no one. Sure he asked ridiculous salary to stay after the club took ages to go around a table with him and give him a decent contract. However considering how many players we've got that are stealing a living, was it that terrible to give our 2nd best CM the contract he wanted? If we couldn't afford his salary then FFS let Jones and Mata leave on free and divert all that salary to him. How terrible that would have been? Instead our CM is now made up of Paul Pogba (who doesn't want to be here btw) surrounded by has beens, squad players and that non player we've bought from the Ukrainian league
Then there's the RW whose basically the huge elephant in the room. We basically have no one with talent to play there. Mata is slow and crap, Greenwood is so green he pisses grass, James only has pace and he's a LW btw and don't get me started about Jesse. Not to forget that we'll probably start the season with Rashford as our only reliable striker.
This was the summer were Woodward could showcase his negotiating abilities so he could put to bed the need for some real change at board level. Instead he just confirmed what we already know. This club is lead by incompetent people who can't bring the players we need or get rid of the deadwood that they keep giving long term contracts to. We're in shambles.
I don’t see any game we can win with Phil Jones as a midfield ”destroyer”..A lot of centre backs, some of whom have never really worked as centre backs.
Could Ole try one of them as a DM? Phil Jones for instance as a destroyer?
No, it's not something I'd personally pursue, I'm just wondering if it's something that may be experimented with. He hasn't worked out as a centre back.I don’t see any game we can win with Phil Jones as a midfield ”destroyer”..
Only thing Jones in midfield will destroy is any chance of us getting a result.A lot of centre backs, some of whom have never really worked as centre backs.
Could Ole try one of them as a DM? Phil Jones for instance as a destroyer?
A lot of centre backs, some of whom have never really worked as centre backs.
Could Ole try one of them as a DM? Phil Jones for instance as a destroyer?
Unless we are already negotiating something, it would be very unlikely to manage to sign someone starting negotiations from scratch in just 2 and a half days.2 signings left that are required and 2 and a half days left to sign them.
Someone wake Ed up.
Stranger things have happened on dealine day.Unless we are already negotiating something, it would be very unlikely to manage to sign someone starting negotiations from scratch in just 2 and a half days.
Stopped reading this when you advocated paying Herrera approximately 300k when he's nowhere worth that.Our level of incompetence exceeds expectations. Lets start from CM. We allowed Herrera to leave and we will probably replacing him with no one. Sure he asked ridiculous salary to stay after the club took ages to go around a table with him and give him a decent contract. However considering how many players we've got that are stealing a living, was it that terrible to give our 2nd best CM the contract he wanted? If we couldn't afford his salary then FFS let Jones and Mata leave on free and divert all that salary to him. How terrible that would have been? Instead our CM is now made up of Paul Pogba (who doesn't want to be here btw) surrounded by has beens, squad players and that non player we've bought from the Ukrainian league
Then there's the RW whose basically the huge elephant in the room. We basically have no one with talent to play there. Mata is slow and crap, Greenwood is so green he pisses grass, James only has pace and he's a LW btw and don't get me started about Jesse. Not to forget that we'll probably start the season with Rashford as our only reliable striker.
This was the summer were Woodward could showcase his negotiating abilities so he could put to bed the need for some real change at board level. Instead he just confirmed what we already know. This club is lead by incompetent people who can't bring the players we need or get rid of the deadwood that they keep giving long term contracts to. We're in shambles.
He is now way good enough.. Actually no way good enough. You havent watched him play for Gent have you?Ole should sign Sander Berge (DM at Genk). Fiorentinas 20m bid was rejected, as Genk wants 25. Sheff. U & Brighton wanted him but was rejected after what the news says. A lot better than todays Matic imo. Fast and got great technique. Tall and strong. National and CL experience with Norway/Genk. 21 yo.
Yep, that's all for us. If we were going to get something done, we would need to be actively getting it sorted now. Everything seems quiet and dead though.Most likely no more business.
Signings can be done in a matter of hours.Unless we are already negotiating something, it would be very unlikely to manage to sign someone starting negotiations from scratch in just 2 and a half days.
Hard to see it this time, not with Ed and his negotiation skills. We can't even sell players which is just as important.Signings can be done in a matter of hours.
You presume a lot. Not many people watch as much football as me.. Yes I have watched several of his games for Genk, in Europe. I guess you know better than most though?He is now way good enough.. Actually no way good enough. You havent watched him play for Gent have you?
I know you both are norwegians, but have you actually seen him play in Belgium??
For some reason we are not allowed to make this sort of signing. We have to let someone like Monaco take the chance on him, our scouts the. realise he’s actually a good player then we sign them for over £60m.Ole should sign Sander Berge (DM at Genk). Fiorentinas 20m bid was rejected, as Genk wants 25. Sheff. U & Brighton wanted him but was rejected after what the news says. A lot better than todays Matic imo. Fast and got great technique. Tall and strong. National and CL experience with Norway/Genk. 21 yo.
Declan Rice says hi.I imagine if there was a midfield equivalent of Maguire - a quite obvious transfer, we'd have gone all out. Our scope seem to be absolutely within the Premier League and the Football League.
For some reason we are not allowed to make this sort of signing. We have to let someone like Monaco take the chance on him, our scouts the. realise he’s actually a good player then we sign them for over £60m.
We have a large number of scouts around the world, yes. Most of the scouting focus at the club is at youth level where we can get them cheap or identify who we need to track at senior level for potential transfers in the future.Do we have scouts? Honest question.
Maguire - didn't need scouting. We wanted him last summer, too.
AWB - didn't need scouting. Was the clear standout RB in the league last season.
Dan James - was recommended personally by Giggs.
If we have scouts, I would love to see a list of who they have been watching since the window opened, or before. I honestly don't think we bother - it seems like our manager just says 'I want a player' and we default to the most well-known option, preferably from within our own league.
....AWB...Lindelof....Maguire...Shaw
.............Mctominay..Pogba..........
..James..........Lingard.........Rashford
......................Martial.................
Totally agree with this. The holes in our squad have been blatantly obvious for a long time now too.So we finished 6th and seemed like we lost every single game towards the end of the season (I know we actually didn't). We needed, definitely:
- 1 x CB
- 1 x RB
- 2 x CM (we sold Fellaini, lost Herrera and there were questions about Pogba leaving. Matic's legs no longer exist. Two were required).
- 1 x RW
- 1 x STRK (if Lukaku was sold).
That's 5 definite signings and 1 potential additional, which has seemingly happened now.
We have made three signings. Not one of them has been a CM. One of them is a Championship youngster for the future.
So we have made 2 / 6 signings. 2 / 5 if Lukaku stays.
Nowhere near good enough. YET AGAIN.
Herrera was an important cog in our system. If he was asking for unrealistic wages then we either set a huge budget aside to replace him or else we give him the salary he wanted. There were other ways of recouping that salary money like for example allowing deadwood like Mata and Jones to leave on free.Herrera was apparently asking for unrealistic wages, and there aren't many British midfielders available in the transfer market. I imagine if there was a midfield equivalent of Maguire - a quite obvious transfer, we'd have gone all out. Our scope seem to be absolutely within the Premier League and the Football League.
Herrera was an important cog in our system. Unless we've got the money to adequately replace him then we'll give him what he wants and then cut back by getting rid of the deadwood. We can't start the system with such a hole in CM.Stopped reading this when you advocated paying Herrera approximately 300k when he's nowhere worth that.
I think if sign any one of Fernandes, Dybala or Eriksen by the end of the transfer window, it would be a good summer overall as we would have added 3 excellent additions to the first team and one potentially very good player in James.Herrera asked for massive wages, we rejected
Dybala asked for astrononical wages, we rejected
We've addressed our weakest 2 positions on the pitch, RB and CB with two of last seasons' best defensive talents in the PL.
It's been an excellent window. Our strategy has changed and I love it.
This is true. They're just not that easy to get rid of because they're overpaid and not very good. It could take years unfortunately. I'm just relieved we have a policy now.I think if sign any one of Fernandes, Dybala or Eriksen by the end of the transfer window, it would be a good summer overall as we would have added 3 excellent additions to the first team and one potentially very good player in James.
Only thing that would be disappointing is the fact we haven't sold any of the "deadwood" players.
I agree, Ole has my backing fully anyway.This is true. They're just not that easy to get rid of because they're overpaid and not very good. It could take years unfortunately. I'm just relieved we have a policy now.
This.Herrera asked for massive wages, we rejected
Dybala asked for astrononical wages, we rejected
We've addressed our weakest 2 positions on the pitch, RB and CB with two of last seasons' best defensive talents in the PL on reportedly modest wages.
It's been an excellent window. Our strategy has changed and I love it.
The two main signings are good, no question, but it feels like it's only half a job done, the midfield has lost two players, both regular starters, and neither has been replaced, and again it feels like the RW has been mostly ignored.Herrera asked for massive wages, we rejected
Dybala asked for astrononical wages, we rejected
We've addressed our weakest 2 positions on the pitch, RB and CB with two of last seasons' best defensive talents in the PL on reportedly modest wages.
It's been an excellent window. Our strategy has changed and I love it.