Robbie Boy
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In other news, isn’t it funny how shite Kanté has been for ages now. Lolz.
Joke footballer.They missed Luiz. 8m must be the lowest amount spent to directly weaken a rival, imo.
The midfield is cause for concern, no doubt about it, but it's not quite as bad as being suggested. Periera looked like a duck out of water in there. Although he assisted Martial for the second, his overal contribution was limited at best. Pogba and Mctominay looked comfortable for the majority of the game though.We’ve got big problems no doubt, although we were missing several players. Luiz to Arsenal was an obvious mistake and was proven so after Zouma’s howler. Once we get Rudiger, Kante, CHO, James and Willian back we’ll be much better. That still leaves Cheek to return too. Hopefully we can get 6th and build from there once we can buy again.
I’d be concerned as a United fan though, I thought you guys looked terrible for the most part, well, before the second goal at least. Better, more stable teams than us will have a field day against that midfield.
7th or belowSo, where do you all think we'll finish in the league?
No chance.7th or below
Tammy Abraham isn't PL quality, so it'll take Giroud to have his greatest ever goal scoring season for Chelsea to score enough goals to finish top 6. Guarantee Chelsea will be closer to the likes of Everton than Man Utd & ArsenalNo chance.
Who exactly are going to topple us out of the top six?Tammy Abraham isn't PL quality, so it'll take Giroud to have his greatest ever goal scoring season for Chelsea to score enough goals to finish top 6. Guarantee Chelsea will be closer to the likes of Everton than Man Utd & Arsenal
Funny thing is, we created a lot more than we did in this fixture last season with him playing.It's a bit surreal playing against a Hazard-less Chelsea. The guys been tormenting us for years and always plays a stormer against us. Without him Chelsea look pretty toothless. Attacking wise it'd be similar to us without Pogba.
Chelsea scored 63 goals last season that was the lowest of the top 6, you've lost 16 of those 63 goals in Hazard meaning without Hazard you'd of been looking at 47 that's the same total that Wolves managed and less than Everton and Leicester (not to mention the likes of West Ham and Watford). Who's going to topple you out of the top 6? Any number of clubs tbhWho exactly are going to topple us out of the top six?
Wolves may have had an outside shot with no Europe, but frankly if they even maintain 7th with Europa distractions then manager of the year should be a one horse race.
Everton finished 18 points behind and have lost their two best players (one of which to us) while Leicester finished 20 points behind us and have lost arguably their most important player by Vardy and not replaced him.
Were in for a tough season yes, but over 38 games we will comfortably finish above any non top six side.
Would you care to make a wager? Chelsea finish top 6, I win, Chelsea finisher 7th or lower, you win.Chelsea scored 63 goals last season that was the lowest of the top 6, you've lost 16 of those 63 goals in Hazard meaning without Hazard you'd of been looking at 47 that's the same total that Wolves managed and less than Everton and Leicester (not to mention the likes of West Ham and Watford). Who's going to topple you out of the top 6? Any number of clubs tbh
I'm going to agree, Giroud needs to start. Personally I'd like to see Pulisic play off him centrally. Getting Willian back will be helpful, along with RLC , CHO etc. Can't expect inexperienced players to fill Hazard hole.Tammy Abraham isn't PL quality, so it'll take Giroud to have his greatest ever goal scoring season for Chelsea to score enough goals to finish top 6. Guarantee Chelsea will be closer to the likes of Everton than Man Utd & Arsenal
Stakes?Would you care to make a wager? Chelsea finish top 6, I win, Chelsea finisher 7th or lower, you win.
Nothing silly, £20?Stakes?
Forum banStakes?
Nah, happy to do a silly tag line or a months ban from posting but not interested in loosing money in a prediction which will no doubt blow up in my face in a few weeks timeNothing silly, £20?
If you play it like that you can say if you just took out CR7s goals and assists out of your hattrick of titles winning teams you would have been fighting for top four instead with the likes of Moyes's Everton, but I don't think anyone would seriously believe you would have actually been down in that position without Ronaldo.Chelsea scored 63 goals last season that was the lowest of the top 6, you've lost 16 of those 63 goals in Hazard meaning without Hazard you'd of been looking at 47 that's the same total that Wolves managed and less than Everton and Leicester (not to mention the likes of West Ham and Watford). Who's going to topple you out of the top 6? Any number of clubs tbh
Damn, I wanted to post a pic of myself holding some John Terry memorabilia purchased with your dosh!Nah, happy to do a silly tag line or a months ban from posting but not interested in loosing money in a prediction which will no doubt blow up in my face in a few weeks time
Your comparison is actually spot on, without Ronaldo we wouldn't of won the trophies we did. What happened as soon as he left? Chelsea won the league.If you play it like that you can say if you just took out CR7s goals and assists out of your hattrick of titles winning teams you would have been fighting for top four instead with the likes of Moyes's Everton, but I don't think anyone would seriously believe you would have actually been down in that position without Ronaldo.
Taking a players goals and assists out a team and adjusting the table accordingly is nothing more than a game of hypotheticals.
We won something like 21 games out of 22 without Hazard starting last season, admittedly against weak opposition for the most part but still, even against shit sides you don't have that type of ratio if you can't cope without a player, Infact we created a lot more today than we did in this fixture last season with him playing.Your comparison is actually spot on, without Ronaldo we wouldn't of won the trophies we did. What happened as soon as he left? Chelsea won the league.
In some scenarios other players step up (like Rooney did when Ronaldo left) but Chelsea let's be honest were a one man team last season and haven't been able to replace that one man.
Premature. They missed several players and were unlucky.That was an awful capitulation after a promising start. They are not a threat for the top 4, long term this season might be of great benefit to Chelsea in developing players like Christiansen, Kepa, Mount, Abraham and co, but in the short term they will have to temper expectations, could easily finish as low as 7th/8th with that group.
This is the thing though, Chelsea were the better side today and yet you've copped a 4-0 hiding. Now Rudiger and Kante may improve the defensive side of things but they're not going to do anything about the lack of clinical finishing at the other endWe won something like 21 games out of 22 without Hazard starting last season, admittedly against weak opposition for the most part but still, even against shit sides you don't have that type of ratio if you can't cope without a player, Infact we created a lot more today than we did in this fixture last season with him playing.
Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying he won't he be a loss, he will and it will probably cost us top 4 but this notion he was single handedly preventing us dining with the likes of Watford (with respect to them) is hilarious.
And Batshuayi.Not really taken much notice, but they've got just Abraham and Giroud as their strikers? That can't be right surely.
You poor buggers.And Batshuayi.
Maybe, they do have quite a few to come back. Unlucky with hitting the post twice with great hits but I look at Zouma. Ludicrous panicky lunge for the pen, a silly tackle for a yellow and that beyond belief pass that set up Martial on the edge. Make those type of mistakes, and to be fair he was not the only Chelsea player with some bizarre decision making, Barkley had a shocker, and you deserve to be punished.Premature. They missed several players and were unlucky.
Who do you think we should have bought? Oh wait!You poor buggers.
I wasn't trying to be clever, I'm just quite shocked at what you have there.Who do you think we should have bought? Oh wait!
I am frustrated. The result is very bad. We do not have a chance against Liverpool.4-0 flattered United so it's too early to make a big assessment of Chelsea. .....
Can't see them standing a chance against Liverpool though on Wednesday.
We signed pulisic as a hazard replacement, it was known he was leaving in the summer. I’m not sure we’d have signed another winger without the ban; especially with CHO expected to break through this season (prior to his injury). We would of course have signed a striker though.Losing Hazard was bad enough. Not having thr capability to replace him has just compounded their ever existing striker issues. Tammy isnt going to cut it. The guy barely moves and in this league thats a recipe for disaster.