[Red Dreams]

What sort of scouting was done before Fred was purchased?

 

[AgentP]

What sort of scouting was done before Fred was purchased?

Ed read an article on Daily Mail that said City are going to buy him for 50m.

 

[Red Dreams]

Ed read an article on Daily Mail that said City are going to buy him for 50m.

And Jose agreed.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

You do realise that Fred is absolutely crap!
I mean really really bad. So bad, that he can barely make the bench and by rights shouldn't even be in the squad?

Better than Matic.

By your logic of player who doesn’t make it to bench is called so bad then in your logic player like Gomes is so bad that he can’t even make it to the bench.

 

[Lee565]

A striker like Vardy with his qualities against lindelof and maguire does not fill me with confidence.
-----------------romero
-----awb--maguire--tuanzebe
Lingard--periera-matic--james
------------mata--------pogba
------------------martial

 

[King Andow]

A striker like Vardy with his qualities against lindelof and maguire does not fill me with confidence.
-----------------romero
-----awb--maguire--tuanzebe
Lingard--periera-matic--james
------------mata--------pogba
------------------martial

 

[sunama]

That's how it goes around here. Everyone likes to over rate teams below us and under rate us. I can't believe that 2-1 Leicester is the leading vote on here right now. Talk about our supporters lowering their expectations so they don't get hurt....ugh

LCFC are above us in the table. At this moment in time, they are the better team.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

The alternatives aren't any better.

 

[LoneStar]

He really isn't.

He's here for the long haul. Our transfer dealings are an obvious indication that this is a long term plan.

If we lose this, we are pretty much in relegation form. Not a blip, but happening since Ole became permanent manager.

Surely if we are outside top 6 by Christmas, he'll be fired. The long term plan applies only if we get into top 6 (ideally top 4, but that's not gonna happen).

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Rashford Martial
Pogba Matic McTominay James
Young Maguire Lindelof Dalot
De Gea​

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

What sort of scouting was done before Fred was purchased?

Ed was listening to talksport and they reported that City wanted him.

 

[Pace Abuser]

We simply can't play with 2 midfielders. When will the penny drop with clown Ole?

 

[SadlerMUFC]

LCFC are above us in the table. At this moment in time, they are the better team.

So what you're saying is that no matter how many games in we are, the table never lies? Give your head a shake. So I guess that means Crystal Palace, Arsenal, Everton and West Ham are better than us too? But hey, at least we are better than Tottenham...

 

[USREDEVIL]

Rashford Martial
Pogba Matic McTominay James
Young Maguire Lindelof Dalot
De Gea​

is AWB that injured? hope not!

 

[Hughes35]

A striker like Vardy with his qualities against lindelof and maguire does not fill me with confidence.
-----------------romero
-----awb--maguire--tuanzebe
Lingard--periera-matic--james
------------mata--------pogba
------------------martial

My god that is an awful team. Don't go into management (No offense).

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

A striker like Vardy with his qualities against lindelof and maguire does not fill me with confidence.
-----------------romero
-----awb--maguire--tuanzebe
Lingard--periera-matic--james
------------mata--------pogba
------------------martial

No offence but neither does that team. Adding a third CB is an option (to give extra cover for nippy forwards) but not if you're also going to ignore proper defenders playing at wingback... Lingard and James would be a disaster. And the midfield....?!

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

Rashford Martial
Pogba Matic McTominay James
Young Maguire Lindelof Dalot
De Gea​

Pereira, Tielemans and Perez will have a field day in the attacking phase against Rashford, Pogba and Young. You can't field a team with zero defensive capabilities on half the pitch. It looks suicidal.

 

[Wilt]

No doubt Leicester will fancy their chances (much like every other team at the moment)

No if’s or but’s, Utd need to win this one.

 

[sunama]

So what you're saying is that no matter how many games in we are, the table never lies? Give your head a shake. So I guess that means Crystal Palace, Arsenal, Everton and West Ham are better than us too? But hey, at least we are better than Tottenham...

I know it hurts seeing your team become what we have become. It frustrates the hell out of me, too. But don't avoid the fact that CP did beat us (at OT) and LCFC, based on current form are a better team than us. No ifs. No buts. MCFC and LFC are also better than us. It sucks I know, but until things change at boardroom level, expect this to continue.

Your beef is not with me, my friend. Your anger and frustration is at the club.
Selling 2 midfielders and not replacing them.
Selling a striker and not replacing them.
Spending less than £70M net for 2 Summers in a row.
Getting a manager who is unproven at the highest level and his only experience in the EPL is getting a team relegated.
When you combine all these together, it is no surprise that we are behind LCFC in the table and that we lost to CP a few weeks back.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Pereira, Tielemans and Perez will have a field day in the attacking phase against Rashford, Pogba and Young. You can't field a team with zero defensive capabilities on half the pitch. It looks suicidal.

Since when did those players become world beaters?

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

is AWB that injured? hope not!

Hopefully he'll be back. If not, then it'll have to be Dalot.

 

[Bestietom]

--------------------De Gea------------

-AWB--------Lindelof-----Maguire---------Young

-----------McTominay----------Matic-----------

----------------------Pogba-------------------

-Rashford-----------Martial---------------James

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

Since when did those players become world beaters?

They never were. But this doesn't mean that you can neglect the defensive aspect of your game on the whole length of your left side. There always has to be balance in whatever plans you have made. There were numerous times in the past when opposition managers targeted Young's inability to defend properly in 1v1 (or in the air) and Valencia's suspect positioning at RB too. Imagine if you put Pogba, who's defensive positioning leaves a lot to be desired, and Rashford, who's generally not good at defending (even behind the ball) in front of Young. You're offering Rodgers an opening and Rodgers is a manager who can take advantage of such weaknesses.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

I know it hurts seeing your team become what we have become. It frustrates the hell out of me, too. But don't avoid the fact that CP did beat us (at OT) and LCFC, based on current form are a better team than us. No ifs. No buts. MCFC and LFC are also better than us. It sucks I know, but until things change at boardroom level, expect this to continue.

Your beef is not with me, my friend. Your anger and frustration is at the club.
Selling 2 midfielders and not replacing them.
Selling a striker and not replacing them.
Spending less than £70M net for 2 Summers in a row.
Getting a manager who is unproven at the highest level and his only experience in the EPL is getting a team relegated.
When you combine all these together, it is no surprise that we are behind LCFC in the table and that we lost to CP a few weeks back.

 

[King Andow]

The alternatives aren't any better.

Fred and McTominay > Matic and Pereira, Greenwood > Mata, Dalot/any kid > Lingard.

 

[romufc]

Maddison, Tielemans and Ndidi are all upgrades on any of our midfielders except Pogba.

Don’t see us winning this game but with tough few games to come we desperately need a win. Leicester are one of the teams I can see edging us out of top six.

Except Pogba? we play with a 2 in midfield and I would say McT is not that much worse than Ndidi.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

They never were. But this doesn't mean that you can neglect the defensive aspect of your game on the whole length of your left side. There always has to be balance in whatever plans you have made. There were numerous times in the past when opposition managers targeted Young's inability to defend properly in 1v1 (or in the air) and Valencia's suspect positioning at RB too. Imagine if you put Pogba, who's defensive positioning leaves a lot to be desired, and Rashford, who's generally not good at defending (even behind the ball) in front of Young. You're offering Rodgers an opening and Rodgers is a manager who can take advantage of such weaknesses.

Neglect? You're going on like they can't defend at all. If I put it as a 433, as opposed to a 442, I dont think you'd say anything.

That said, what we need to be doing is trying to exploit their weaknesses too. Hopefully, we hurt them more than they hurt us.

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

Neglect? You're going on like they can't defend at all. If I put it as a 433, as opposed to a 442, I dont think you'd say anything.

That said, what we need to be doing is trying to exploit their weaknesses too. Hopefully, we hurt them more than they hurt us.

I'm not saying that you're out of your mind. I enjoy reading your posts even when i don't agree with them. Let's get that straight.

I had in mind a starting lineup by Ole with very few, if any, tactical alterations and with Rojo/Young as FBs which would make the Match Thread explode. Then all the merry go round about who should play and how we should field the team etc. This is the main reason i quoted you.

I think that we will give them the initiative and we'll try to hit on the counter because the defensive organization isn't Rodgers' forte. Given our current state and the dire need for the three points, i wouldn't blame Ole for doing that. If you offer them spaces to exploit, they can create chances because this is what Rodgers is good at as a manager. We saw at SB how good they can be with room to exploit.

I would have the same issues with the 433 (reverse triangle) because Pogba would still have to track back the opposition FB instead of fighting it out with Ndidi in the midfield.

 

[Lee565]

Fred and McTominay > Matic and Pereira, Greenwood > Mata, Dalot/any kid > Lingard.

Fred is absent isnt he at the moment? So Unfortunately matic is the only defensive midfielder we have, Mctominay over periera I can get but it's more to do with periera having better mobility to partner matic considering Leicester have the likes of ndidi, tielemans and Madison who are all very mobile, dalot is injured so it's either lingard or young as the right fullback, mata I thought played as well as anyone on Saturday before the entire team lost their way during the match and having him and pogba as narrow attacking midfielders helps support periera and matic in midfield, which leaves the wide areas and dalot I think is out injured like shaw, so the only option for the right fullback option is young or lingard.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Matic Matic Matic
Matic Matic
Pogba
Matic Matic Matic Matic
Matic

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Fred and McTominay > Matic and Pereira, Greenwood > Mata, Dalot/any kid > Lingard.

Don't see a significant improvement. I'm surprised if you do.

All of these players are not good enough or not ready yet. In a proper United squad they would barely make the bench.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

I'm not saying that you're out of your mind. I enjoy reading your posts even when i don't agree with them. Let's get that straight.

I had in mind a starting lineup by Ole with very few, if any, tactical alterations and with Rojo/Young as FBs which would make the Match Thread explode. Then all the merry go round about who should play and how we should field the team etc. This is the main reason i quoted you.

I think that we will give them the initiative and we'll try to hit on the counter because the defensive organization isn't Rodgers' forte. Given our current state and the dire need for the three points, i wouldn't blame Ole for doing that. If you offer them spaces to exploit, they can create chances because this is what Rodgers is good at as a manager. We saw at SB how good they can be with room to exploit.

I would have the same issues with the 433 (reverse triangle) because Pogba would still have to track back the opposition FB instead of fighting it out with Ndidi in the midfield.

Fair enough.

What would you play then?

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

Fair enough.

What would you play then?

It's a tough one, i'll give you that.

I'd like to avoid either Dalot or Young on Maddison but i suppose it's something we'll have to live with if AWB is injured. Don't know if Tuanzebe can be trusted to do a job at RB but, if that's not the case, i'd take Young & Rojo as our FBs. With Rojo and McTominay on the left side, we can afford Rashford staying closer to Martial without being outnumbered in the centre of the park.

If Rodgers goes with Ndidi, Chudhurry and Tielemans in the midfield, we can keep McT & Pogba too. The key will be the #10 who will keep Ndidi occupied and will not allow him to play closer to the other two and connect the lines with ease. I see Pereira/Lingard as inevitable.

But if we nullify them in the midfield, we'll be able to play our usual game by trying to set 2v2 plays on the right (with James and Young/Tuanzebe? Is he an option?) and 1v1 for Rashford on the left. Pogba will try to draw opponents and then pick runners in between the lines with his passing skills. As i said in my previous post, i don't see Ole trying something completely new and changing the roles if our key players drastically.

 

[Roboc7]

Except Pogba? we play with a 2 in midfield and I would say McT is not that much worse than Ndidi.

Ndidi is miles better, Mctominay doesn’t start regularly for more than 2/3 teams in the league, he’s bang average.

Pogba is only midfielder we have who has any quality. It’s comical how bad our midfield has become.

 

[Class of 63]

Having read all the posts in the threat it's obvious we've got absolute no chance, and we can't just not turn up on the day, so we might as well take the opportunity to throw a few kids in

Kovar
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Williams
Garner McTominay
Greenwood Lingard Chong
Rashford​

With James who'll probably get 180 minutes for the Welsh this International break, and Angel Gomes on the bench.

 

[romufc]

Ndidi is miles better, Mctominay doesn’t start regularly for more than 2/3 teams in the league, he’s bang average.

Pogba is only midfielder we have who has any quality. It’s comical how bad our midfield has become.

You say it is comical how bad our midfield is? But it has been bad for about 8 years now. Fergie won the league with Clerverly and her was bang average.

Since then we have had a comical defence and Mid.

 

[VP89]

--------------------De Gea------------

-AWB--------Lindelof-----Maguire---------Young

-----------McTominay----------Matic-----------

----------------------Pogba-------------------

-Rashford-----------Martial---------------James

Probably our best set up, although I'd prefer to test Fred for Matic.

 

[Gator Nate]

Having read all the posts in the threat it's obvious we've got absolute no chance, and we can't just not turn up on the day, so we might as well take the opportunity to throw a few kids in

Kovar
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Williams
Garner McTominay
Greenwood Lingard Chong
Rashford​

With James who'll probably get 180 minutes for the Welsh this International break, and Angel Gomes on the bench.

I dunno... Rashford IS the weakest link there...

 

[ash_86]

Why are we fearing Leicester? We did a double over them last season ffs. If they try to attack we'll do them at counter. Only way they are getting a point in this game is if they sit back most of the game. I don't see that happening.

 

[Class of 63]

I dunno... Rashford IS the weakest link there...

Not a fan of the Rash?