I think he could do it, have a go at the glazers whilst leaving the squad and ole out of it. I feel someone like Saf standing up and saying enough is enough will truly get the fans calling for the glazers/Woodwards head.The closest Ferguson has come to condemnation is the Bayern comment. I wish he considered himself wealthy enough to genuinely speak his mind, even if it resulted in a Bill Shankly-type banishment.
Its incredible that many of you cannot comprehend that bringing in a Technical Director during the middle of the Transfer season may have a negative effect on the general day to day running of the club and the overall success of that person.
Look at the ridiculous overreaction to this article in the thread and the responses from the posters, then consider what would be the reaction if a Director had come in in June and the purported failure by Woodward to make signings fell on his head?
United would have laid a deadline to find a Director prior to the Transfer window starting. Its obvious that they are yet to find a contact that is suitable for the role, that upholds the traditions of United, but provides something more than we already have.
If Gary Neville and his merry group of muppets keep banging on about finding "best in class", "best in class" is not just going to present itself at our door. Further, unlike footballers and managers, there is significant ramifications with regards to signing directors and executives from business. Especially when you consider that overall financial success and operation of the business is systematically relied on this single person. I would say the role is more important than a manager or a player at the club because he has to work with everybody.
Get your head out of your arses and stop thinking this is an overnight fix.
Did it negatively effect Arsenal or Lyon?Its incredible that many of you cannot comprehend that bringing in a Technical Director during the middle of the Transfer season may have a negative effect on the general day to day running of the club and the overall success of that person.
Look at the ridiculous overreaction to this article in the thread and the responses from the posters, then consider what would be the reaction if a Director had come in in June and the purported failure by Woodward to make signings fell on his head?
United would have laid a deadline to find a Director prior to the Transfer window starting. Its obvious that they are yet to find a contact that is suitable for the role, that upholds the traditions of United, but provides something more than we already have.
If Gary Neville and his merry group of muppets keep banging on about finding "best in class", "best in class" is not just going to present itself at our door. Further, unlike footballers and managers, there is significant ramifications with regards to signing directors and executives from business. Especially when you consider that overall financial success and operation of the business is systematically relied on this single person. I would say the role is more important than a manager or a player at the club because he has to work with everybody.
Get your head out of your arses and stop thinking this is an overnight fix.
Suggesting?Darren Fletcher is at the U23's tonight.
I mean, he could be there for the shits and giggles for sure. But he has been linked with the position and he is in Manchester on a pissing down Friday night when I am sure he could be elsewhere.Suggesting?
He may be ok with hiring a figurehead who has no experience and will be content with just the position and the salary without any real say. Hence the rumors keep coming out about our recently retired players.With Woodward it will never happen, ego matter
He wants to be the talk of the town, he will not allow a figure like that
I don't know what to make of Fletcher being linked with the position. He recently finished his playing career and how efficient could he be at the job?I mean, he could be there for the shits and giggles for sure. But he has been linked with the position and he is in Manchester on a pissing down Friday night when I am sure he could be elsewhere.
Why would Ole be such a dream DOF? Am I missing something obvious?Imagine if woody had of had the foresight and brains to make Ole DoF before he made him full time manager and went hard after Pochettino. What a dream pairing that would have been....
Not a dream DoF, but he's laid out some markers in terms of recruitment. And he's got his three signings pretty on the mark. So far, ticks more boxes as a DoF than a top class manager. Early days still..Why would Ole be such a dream DOF? Am I missing something obvious?
But it's took nearly 2 years...there's not that many DoF to choose from!Can we stop being negative for a while. Everything the club does is met with snidey remarks.
This things takes time, there's not many DOF around let alone a good one. The good one are working somewhere.
Just looking for a quick fix and appoint anyone they can find to oversee a rebuilt is equally catastrophic than having no dof.
it has been almost 6 years since Fergie. Of course fans start to get annoyed that the club refuses to male the right stepsCan we stop being negative for a while. Everything the club does is met with snidey remarks.
This things takes time, there's not many DOF around let alone a good one. The good one are working somewhere.
Just looking for a quick fix and appoint anyone they can find to oversee a rebuilt is equally catastrophic than having no dof.
Reads like click bait, but even if the report is true — I don't know if Van der Sar can work under Woodward because there's a great deal of administrative overlap between their respective roles at Ajax and United (unless the former becomes the head of Manchester United's Football operations in Manchester and Woodward sticks to the business/company side in his London office). Plus, Edwin doesn't head their transfer operations with regard to scouting players or establishing a coherent assessment philosophy, which throws another spanner in the works because we need a genuine specialist in that department on the basis of our inconsistent transfer dealings in recent seasons...A bit of a clickbait piece on the Ed really wanting VDS in the Mirror (or was it the Mail?) - anyone seen that reported by more reputable outlets?
We must sign the next BebeI’ve said this many times but I’ll say it again....
Carlos Quieroz.
Knows the club, and was hugely successful here. So he’s a cultural fit. But critically he’s also hugely experienced, and understands how players fit into systems as he’s a superb tactical coach. He speaks multiple languages, has the right sort of profile, and is well respected across Europe and much of the world. He has, as expected, a vast network of players, coaches, chairmen, and agents. He’s a classy guy, and would be a sensational pick for the job IMO. I struggle to think of anyone better for the job. He’s even familiar with Solskjær as he coached him at United in the early to mid 2000s. He’s a strong personality too, as he was known to stand up to difficult players, or bad behaviour, including a bust up with Roy Keane which he won.
It will probably be ‘Ole for the chop’ stories first...Saw this thread bumped and thought it was time for the usual periodic release of a story about us looking for a DOF when things aren't going good. I'll give it one more draw/loss before the story comes out again.
It happens very often, the two clubs are incomparable from a size perspective, and so the jobs are nowhere near the same.In support of its Van der Sar, Ajax just sold their newly rebuilt team. When the DoF never gets to build a European Championship side would you stay, or go elsewhere to take up a position where the side you build won't be dismantled for money?
Against: Van der Sar is CEO at Ajax. Who you take a job downgrade for more money at United?
Its in quite a few papers this morning look on newsnow a site that puts headlines on from all the papersA bit of a clickbait piece on the Ed really wanting VDS in the Mirror (or was it the Mail?) - anyone seen that reported by more reputable outlets?
That's because the club is run by snidey people. They've been deflecting fan discontent with the DOF talk for 2 years now! How long will you give them the benefit of the doubt?Can we stop being negative for a while. Everything the club does is met with snidey remarks.
This things takes time, there's not many DOF around let alone a good one. The good one are working somewhere.
Just looking for a quick fix and appoint anyone they can find to oversee a rebuilt is equally catastrophic than having no dof.
Ceo is unique. Those that knows serie a probably wont be a good fit for english clubs and vice versa.But it's took nearly 2 years...there's not that many DoF to choose from!
Anyhow, Edwin is a ceo at Ajax, I'd happily replace Ed for Edwin as ceo, not DoF.
Michael Emenalo, the ex-Chelsea technical director is available. United could probably be financially able to poach Jon Rudkin, the technical director from Leicester City. If Woodward is serious about this appointment and not just using it as a dog whistle after every rough run of form, this would already be done.
Tbh the DoF should have been in place before Ole was appointed, if the club thought that we were handicapped in making football decisions when. Jose went it was not right to make another major one before addressing that handicap. To me Woodward used Ole's good start as an excuse to avoid major change.Should have been done as soon as Ole got the job.
No one saying it is easy, however, there are obviously people out there to do the jobs. Listening to other people, some of the big DoF across football have put there hat in the ring. But it seems more and more apparent that Ed and Glazer's are playing this as a PR machine.Ceo is unique. Those that knows serie a probably wont be a good fit for english clubs and vice versa.
I'm not defending them, but most dof seems content at their respective clubs. Even if good one exists it doesnt guarantee they're willing to just pack the bag and leave everything good they've built, not to mention their family and personal life to move to another country.
Our fans seems to think all we need to do is point and click
Don’t believe this bullshits, it will never happenWith Woodward it will never happen, ego matter
He wants to be the talk of the town, he will not allow a figure like that
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Cheers. I was wondering from where it originated. Guess it's really a nothing story.Its in quite a few papers this morning look on newsnow a site that puts headlines on from all the papers
Good point. It's quite unlikely that VDS would join for anything less than the authority he now enjoys at Ajax. And we all know it's unlikely Woodward will take any sort of a step down (making the whole DoF far fetched as a whole). In the unlikely event that he'd be actually coveted by United for a similar role with similar authority, he'd likely be the one to hire a director of player policy (equivalent). Hard to see any of this happening though.Reads like click bait, but even if the report is true — I don't know if Van der Sar can work under Woodward because there's a great deal of administrative overlap between their respective roles at Ajax and United (unless the former becomes the head of Manchester United's Football operations in Manchester and Woodward sticks to the business/company side in his London office). Plus, Edwin doesn't head their transfer operations with regard to scouting players or establishing a coherent assessment philosophy, which throws another spanner in the works because we need a genuine specialist in that department on the basis of our inconsistent transfer dealings in recent seasons...
Hahaha.We must sign the next Bebe
There's quite a lot of problems here, and daft interpretations.The problem here is that the DoF should have been hired 7 years ago to facilitate the transition from Fergie and develop the vision, planning, and strategies to move United forward.
For the major franchises in North America everyone has their list ready at all times because General Managers (equivalent of DoF) come and go all the time.
This lengthy delays speaks volumes about the gross mismanagement of United.
If you cannot get a DoF/Techincal Director in the fold in a few months or less it means the position is a poison pill because DoF GM positions are the most coveted positions in sports.
It suggests that no one wants to go to United because they will not have the autonomy needed to do the job to the best of their ability.
Currently coaching Colombia and doing quite well so far. Don't see him moving to a DOF role anytime soon.I’ve said this many times but I’ll say it again....
Carlos Quieroz.
Knows the club, and was hugely successful here. So he’s a cultural fit. But critically he’s also hugely experienced, and understands how players fit into systems as he’s a superb tactical coach. He speaks multiple languages, has the right sort of profile, and is well respected across Europe and much of the world. He has, as expected, a vast network of players, coaches, chairmen, and agents. He’s a classy guy, and would be a sensational pick for the job IMO. I struggle to think of anyone better for the job. He’s even familiar with Solskjær as he coached him at United in the early to mid 2000s. He’s a strong personality too, as he was known to stand up to difficult players, or bad behaviour, including a bust up with Roy Keane which he won.
Jeez getting the opinion of that whining negative turd. He knows nothing and has zero positive contributions to anything United.Don’t believe this bullshits, it will never happen
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