There's no guarantee awb and maguire wont turn into pogba martial and lingard. As a matter of pure chance, there's a bigger possibility that the current rotten apple influenced them rather than vice versa.
Match going fans are more likely to protest against Woodward than the manager for sure.
As I’ve said he’s not my top choice but still has 6 wins in the last 16 games in all competitions- or double that.
Could be, but the didn’t Molde come out and say that they were really surprised with his appointment ?
David Gill leaving was a big loss...
Why do we have to begin at phase I ever 2 or 3 years? It was obvious at the end of last season that Matic’s legs are gone, and we had also lost Fellaini and Herrera. So why weren’t we in with a Rashford level offer for Adrian Rabiot? We also sold Lukaku without bringing in a replacement striker. These problems were there out in the open and VERY easy for anyone to identify. We are the only big club run this way, and it’s a disgrace.
I think we were in for him with a good offer but when a player of his caliber was available for free , he has a plethora of clubs to choose from and Juve was a safe bet for him.
I have asked this specific question multiple times, but I'm yet to get an answer. If Ole backers are absolving him of all the blame in regards to our recruitment and squad management last summer, then how will you evaluate his performance over the course of season? Because if the season is a disaster, there's a ready made excuse that it was our board who shredded the squad and it's not good enough.
I would much rather see Ole with a hairdryer if he has one. He also needs to use a hatchet on Lindgard.
I’m sure a Rashford-level good offer plus the enticement to have the opportunity to form a partnership with Pogba and thus try to get back in the good books of his national team coach would have done it. We weren’t in for him at all. Not English, not the right attitude, etc.
A lot of very experienced managers aren’t getting final say on transfers never mind Ole including the much hyped Poch who asked to be called coach not too long ago instead of manager.
Why do people act like they were the ones negotiating? How do you know what was happening? Why do you think Rabiot would have given up CL to join us? Just random shite being spouted out with no context
So, where is the ceiling in regards to getting the 'best out of what he has got'? 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th?
For me the problem goes much deeper than Ole. There are ex-players and others advising him and championing the new philosophy. Unfortunately, when and if this season goes completely of the rails, it will ONLY be Ole’s head that will roll. But the people who have pushed for this agenda will undermine the next manager.
He's currently on €250k a week at Juve and i don't think we would have trumped that even if we were interested. It was an easy decision for him. Also not English propaganda is BS as we were talking to Dybala and Eriksen who are definitely not English.
It won’t just be about where we finish under Ole it will be more about whether it is heading in the right direction or not under him. He’s got to win more games sure but I genuinely think the board know this season isn’t going to see us challenging top 4 and they probably don’t give a damn about europa qualification so it has to be judged as a unique season.
Spouting random shite? What about having a respectful exchange of ideas. Idiot...
Perhaps, but it was still negligent to leave our midfield so threadbare. We had to bring in a competent midfielder or two.
I agree. It wasn't making any sense after we let two of our midfielders go.
Honestly Im not sitting behind a monitor claiming what our transfer committee had planned all along. And I called your post as random shite and aimed nothing against you but feel free to take in whatever sense you wish.
Mourinho’s career matches up well to Sir Alex as does a short career like Arigo Sacchi’s for Milan and italy.
I judged Jose against my expectation of 6th last season, that was after finishing 2nd. I wasn't 100% Jose out becuase i didn't think anyone else would do much better with the same players. Looks like i wasn't far wrong.
There was mass suicide on here when we didn't get Renato Sanchez, Goncalo Guedes, Gelson Martins, Gaitan etc. When we signed Nani he was supposed to be nailed on to be the new Ronaldo. Anderson was the new Scholes. Bebe was the new Eusebio.
So what you're saying is that even if Ole is good enough he can't prove it?
Ahahahaha...so we are afraid of investing in Portugal import now? Or we need them to show Ronaldo level before taking the risk to buy them?
but seriously do you really think Bruno Fernandes could not get into our starting 11 at the moment with the players we have ? And we did not really needed those you cited at that time or ended buying someone else. But we needed badly a midfielder this time, even more than a CB, and it was there for everyone to see.parody
Are people trying to be parodies, or what?
I expect the ex-boys to stick up for their mates, that's not a problem for me and its somewhat understandable. My only problem is, how would us (fans) judge Ole this season? What is the bare minimum he has to do to keep his job into next season? Our poor summer window have been solely attributed to our boards doing and not Ole. So if we do have a poor season, then how do we cut through this ready made excuse?
Once again you're skirting around the question without actually answering it. I mean there has to be a baseline somewhere as to where we finish in the league? Or else how would they evaluate 'heading in right direction'? I mean we go could go full Blackpool/Bournemouth and go extremely attacking but ultimately if that ends up costing points and we finish outside European places, then what?
Well 6th isn’t an unheard position for the mighty Man Utd in the last 3 years so Id say as long as he is around that area of the table and there are signs of progress, the new signings are working out and a proper plan for the following season that wouldn’t be too shabby.
So basically 6th position in PL which got previous 3 managers sacked? But we would deem the season as a success/progress as long his 3 signings work out. I'm ignoring 'around that area of the table', 'signs of progress' 'and a proper plan' since again those are intangibles, and finishing 6th where we finished in the same place last season which was ultimately deemed not good enough would be progress this time around.
To be fair, the guy who got sacked for finishing sixth finished second the year before, so there were very clear failures on his part that justified his termination.
Oh my... I usually refrain from getting into slap-fights with riff-raff online, but for some reason I can't help myself right now.
That's dictionary.com. Ask most anybody familiar with the term and they will tell you it's common to use it as meaning an exaggerated representation of something that was meant to be serious.
