Too good and too expensive. Zero chance of him coming to us lets be honest.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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So dramatic and defeatist - zero chance? Get a grip. How many teams can actually outspend us, not many?
I’m not saying we will definitely buy him, but the chances are far higher than zero, and if you went down the bookies I expect you would find we would be odds on favourites to sign him.
For me it's the first club that pays the price tag for him, will get him. It'll be in the region of £150 million no doubt, very few clubs can afford that, going off our recent spending I'm not filled with confidence that we'll be one of them but who knows. He'd be the perfect signing for us so we should do all we can to get him.
We can easily afford him. We broke the transfer record for defender, midfield and attack in the premier league. The only problem is champions league. If we don’t get it, I can’t see him coming here. He fits the profile of the type of players Ole wants at United. If we get champions league, I can see United buying him for £150m next summer. Especially if he continues his form.
If i had to bet, I'd say City. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they always intended on bringing him back eventually, though i doubt they would have expected his value to rocket so much.
I'd go as far as saying that it's almost imperative that we sign him though. He has eveything that we need and i see no other options that bring the same attributes to the table.
We need to win Europa or be less shit than arsenal and Chelsea
Whole tonne of drama queens around these parts at the moment.
Come the end of the season the feeling around Old Trafford has to be positive, like we're moving in the right direction and playing exciting football. Like you said we also need to win Europa or get 4th plus an FA Cup or something. I think Sancho would only consider it if he felt the ineptitude of the last 6 years had been put behind us and he was going to be part of something big.
Otherwise it's City or maybe Liverpool. Even if all of the above happens, joining the PL champions or CL champions is still a better option for him.
Or maybe realistic and caught up to present time? We struggle to sign top players at the moment, Maguire was rather the exception yet with players playing abroad, it will be difficult. Especially if we compete against other top teams
Aston Villa spend more than us. Our spending days are over.
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It's pretty clear from what Zorc has said that we're definitely in for him and have done the ground work on the deal for it to become a reality next season. Zorc also confirming he contacted United to inform them that Sancho wouldn't be moving in the 2019/20 season is another indication that United are the front runners as far as a potential transfer is concerned.Tweet
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I think it's pretty clear we've got the go ahead from Sancho and his camp regards him moving to us. It's also quite telling that Sancho himself is giving hints regards a move to United via his Instagram which I feel should be noted.
I believe we will pay over the odds to sign him and can't see anyone else matching our bid personally. The player also seems to want to join us and I don't think we would've taken the step to discuss matters with Dortmund directly if that wasn't the case, as confirmed by Michael Zorc.
I believe we've put in significant ground work into this deal and we'll sign the player next summer.
We won the race to sign Rooney before, we can do it again.
Don't do it. Don't give me hope...
Nah feck it. I'm in! Reserve a place for me in the Sancho muppet thread for next summer. Although De Ligt didn't come, I had a lot of fun in the De Ligt muppet thread for sure.
Higher chance he'll go to United than City for the quoted price.
I don't think it's realistic to expect more then 2 first 11 players to be bought in one summer. Unless we can discover a cheap gem like Daniel James. It's going to take at least another 2 summers to have a first 11 comparable to City.
I think we can spend 150 mil net, we've come close to it in the recent past. Plus sales, we can buy Sancho and a top midfielder. I don't expect more then that though.
Which team can afford to spend the majority of their budget on one player? We need another 5 or 6 players and i can't see us spending so big on one player with that in mind. Maybe if we sell Pogba and sign a cheaper midfielder.
Mate, we've never been able to attract top tier talent from abroad, they want to play for Madrid and Barcelona. Under Fergie, Veron was as exotic as it got and he wasn't a mitigated success. Our foundations have always been in buying the best of British and augmenting that with talent from the lesser leagues in Europe. Bayern do the exact same but with German players, Juventus used to do this with Italian players. It's a tried and tested method that's worked for us, this signing big European names is new for us in the last couple of years.
When one is as good as Sancho and as young as he is, it's worth it. Our team looks a hell of a lot better if he was our right winger. We're pretty much achieving 6th without a RW and 2 midfielders. I don't think we need another 5-6 players. Sure if you want even more depth, but quality is what we're lacking the most.
We could sign 5-6 more players and people would still be clamoring that "we need 5-6 more players to compete". No amount of toys is enough for some folks.
He'd be a great player for us, and he'd complement our current forward options... We'd still need another quality midfielder though.
I think CHO is a better bet with his current contract situation. We could get him for anywhere from one 5th to a 3rd of what Sancho would cost in January. Or even on a 'free' next summer.
Comments like those show how much you know about football.
1. He was at City with a chance to play for Pep, but he was not giving him game time so left.
2. What has Tuchel done to be able to attract players like Sancho?
3. He would rather go to Chelsea because he supports Chelsea, is a London boy, and is best mates with CHO and Tammy.
Think whoever is going to sign him needs to step in early because I really do think his stock is set to rise even further next summer. If someone (hopefully us) can sign him before Euro 2020 it'd be a great bit of business. Hell, why not try to sign him in January with the proviso that he stays in Dortmund until the end of the season?
He left City for first team and while he could go back if City stump up the cash I think he is happy to keep in Europe assuming Madrid/Barca come for him. If true he is a Chelsea fan, they will rebuild next year and will have cash to burn
Jadon Sancho is not worth £150m. This is getting beyond a joke. He's a good young player. But could we just ease off with the superlatives. He scored two against KOSOVO ffs. You think Jadon Sancho is ten times better than Daniel James? Let's try and keep a sense of perspective here.
I mean, look at Marcus Rashford. Martial. Depay... and I could go on and on. All extremely 'talented young players...'. And now look at them. Broadly, all are rather average now.
Dembele cost Barca 135 million. It's not just two goals vs Kosovo either. He's going to cost that much unfortunately.
You're making the mistake of thinking ability and market value have a linear relationship while in reality it's more of an exponential one.
He may be a Chelsea fan but in reality that means jack all when you get into professional football unless you come through the academy. For example Rudiger is an Arsenal fan playing for Chelsea, Pepe vice versa.
That said i do think we have a chance of attracting Jadon if we are still on Lampard and project youth this time next year but should we win the battle it won't be because he was/is a Chelsea fan, it would likely be a similar case to the Hazard transfer and we pitch our project better than United do (and offer more game time guarantee's than City).
Dembele was in the context of £200m for Neymar though. Pulisic went for what £56m-ish? Somewhere around £70m with £30m add-ons probably gets it done.
What is the Lampard project?
Also the names you mentioned are all international players who support a team. Jadon Sancho is a London boy who is very good friends with CHO and Tammy, which will be a major factor.
one of the most sought after English players right now, where city are going to try and get him. For man Utd He's going to cost 120m+ easily.No chance.
Bringing through the cream of our academy first and foremost, we can't afford to let these players slip through the net.
I really hope you're right because he would be a perfect signing for us and probably the best attacking player we could realistically attract.
Other way of saying paying shit loads of wages than other clubs.
Nah, he's the sort of talent you'd be kicking yourself if you missed out on. We can improve the midfield with many players. Talents like Sancho, IMO are much harder to come by.
Of course we can get Sancho. I don't understand people thinking this is beyond United. But of course we need to have a decent season first. Ideally get into the champions league. If we don't, can't blame him if he turns us down. Quite mouth watering imagining a forward line of Sancho, James and a clinical striker...
Clubs in Europe don't have the funds in the way that Premier League teams do. Case in point; look at the sales of Frenkie De Jong and Mathijs De Ligt.
Ignoring the Dembele transfer which was a special circumstance and the record transfers for Bundesliga teams are De Bruyne to City £68m, Lucas Hernandez to Bayern for £72m and Pulisic to Chelsea for £57m.
City have never spent more than the £68m they spent on De Bruyne. We literally just outbid them for Maguire this past summer.
As the father of 2 young boys I can tell you that toys bought in the Smyths €10 or less section will be new and shiny and played with for a few hours before being put on the shelf.
The bargain bucket toys that my wife brings home, sometimes they’re distressed or slightly broken - I can’t resell this shit so they end up getting free transfers.
Generally speaking, the more expensive it is, the better quality it is, the more it’s played with and better longevity. So you could argue better value for money.
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I think Madrid are set on signing Mbappe with Bayern set on signing Sane, and unfortunately don't think either Mane or Salah will be leaving Liverpool, so I'd remove Madrid, Bayern and Liverpool and add Chelsea.
City easily have the funds but they've been crowing about how they won't pay over x amount for a single player, instead paying £50M for multiple players. Would they smash that on Sancho? Can't see him wanting to play in Ligue 1 so would rule out PSG.
Most important thing is qualifying for the Champions League. If we don't and Chelsea do, I can see him going there.
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