Wonder no more. Lingard is the most hated and criticized player at United, more than what he's been receiving would be crazy
Is Matic ruffling Ole's feathers | Starting counter-attacks like a boss
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I think the hate Lingard gets is mainly due to his antics, while the hate Matic gets is mainly due to his current ability.
Understandable. When something used to be good, you expect it to be good all the time and when it turns bad you hate it. In the case of Lingard, I think people are beginning to accept if He's just going to be an average player on his peak. Less expectation on him, ability wise. Unless if He starts spouting beans beans beans on twitter again.
It's painful to say this but Lingard is our new Lukaku. He's the new teacher's pet.
I don't think so, it's because he's a shite football at the end of the day. If he played like Bernardo Silva for instance with the same social media activity he has now at United, no one would care. The rest is highlighted even more because he's just an average footballer.
No. Get rid
He’s an interesting one. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the brief periods he’s been good at United (beginning of his first season, the start of Ole’s run) have coincided with the brief periods when the whole team has played well.
Is he then a key player who’s just hopelessly inconsistent due to poor stamina, or a fair weather player with a weak mentality? I’ve honestly no idea, but wouldn’t dismiss the latter out of hand.
Is he then a key player who’s just hopelessly inconsistent due to poor stamina, or a fair weather player with a weak mentality? I’ve honestly no idea, but wouldn’t dismiss the latter out of hand.
Get rid of the Penguin
He shouldn't have done it.
Matic suits a certain style of play which was what Jose liked about him, he is so inflexible tactic wise and his legs have gone so Ole doesn't use him.
We have an option to extend for another year, don't think we will, will sign for an Italian side in January.
Matic suits a certain style of play which was what Jose liked about him, he is so inflexible tactic wise and his legs have gone so Ole doesn't use him.
We have an option to extend for another year, don't think we will, will sign for an Italian side in January.
This is the problem with the current bunch of players we have. They run to the media at the smallest of incidents. fecking crybabies.
What is it with players saying really stupid things during international breaks?
Think Matic has signed his exit papers somehow.
Think Matic has signed his exit papers somehow.
Which of the following needs to happen first:
Burst Rashy's Bubble
Ruffle Ole's Feathers
?
Burst Rashy's Bubble
Ruffle Ole's Feathers
?
Look who is talking. If Matic hadn't served up 1 1/2 seasons of complete shite he might have a point, but he did, so I hope he fecks off asap.
Matic was very good for the first two months or so after we signed him (which is when all those comments were made), but even in his first season his form was consistently getting worse over the course of the season. By Christmas he was fairly average and by the end of the season he was quite poor. Then he was terrible last season (his second season), saved a lot of criticism because somehow Lukaku was even worse. He had a very brief good month when Ole first took over and Herrera was doing half of his job for him, but he quickly dropped away again and was poor for the remainder of the season.
I heard a rumour on Twitter recently that a delegation of united players went to the board to say that they didn’t have confidence in Solskjær. If true, what’s the betting Matic was one of them?
Shit on Jlingz's parade?
I cant see it being true. If it was it'd be interesting to know when this was supposed to have happened - that'd be a prime indicator of who was 'involved'.
Basically Matic it’s like this , close the door on the way out. I’d prefer Fred, Pereira and McTom playing before him.
If this was remotely credible, this would have been reported in the news. As a enormous bombshell of an event. What you're describing is player mutiny.
It ruffled my features that we signed him.
You are right,he should be first out but none of the 4 are top midfielders.
If this is true (I doubt it), one would presume that players being sidelined like Matic would do such thing.
These kind of things happen when big changes are taking place - resistance to change. Someone experienced like Matic would pretend that he s an automatic starter considering the amount of youngsters in the squad. I won't be surprised to see more of this if results don't go our way.
Hopefully fans will look at the bigger picture on the longer term and not jump on the moaning bandwagon created by players who are past their expiry dates
But it s just speculation at the time being.
I remember someone posting a while back a little 'theory of events' type thing, to describe/explain the whole downing of tools scenario (summarised below):
- Manager sacked, fans fuming at how shit the players are.
- New boss comes in, players suddenly play out of their skins and results improve.
- After a little while, new boss decides who he wants to stay and who needs to be shifted out/upgraded on.
- Suddenly, results begin to decline as the unwanted players start under-performing.
- Manager gets sacked, before clearing out unwanted players.
- New Boss comes in "everyone has a fresh start to prove themselves".
- Cycle continues.
Now obviously this isnt strictly true but it would make sense. If this scenario was applied to current times, you could definitely see senior players such as Matic, Young, Jones, Smalling and co being afraid for their futures and knowing they will never make such a good salary elsewhere.
A) That would have been reported in the papers too.
B) Typically when a delegation of players goes to the board it's on behalf of the dressing room as a whole. So of it did happen (which seems extremely unlikely) and Matic was part of it then that would likely be indicative of him being a senior player representing the consensus view rather than a malcontent complaining from the periphery of the squad.
QUOTE: It ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. This coolness arises partly from fear of the opponents, who have the laws on their side, and partly from the incredulity of men, who do not readily believe in new things until they have had a long experience of them.
Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince
I don’t give a shite about antics. Goals, assists, chances created, penalties earned - that’s what is important to see from an attacker.
Exactly. Nobody would give a shit about Lingard’s childish behaviour if he was banging in a combined 20-30 goals and assists a season.
He can do whatever the feck He wants if He was banging in those numbers. But at the same time, if He was an average player who uses social media properly ala Phil Jones(?), He will still not get criticized as much as the other players (Martial for example) because He's a hardworking local lad and all that jazz.
Back on topic, I think Matic's days were numbered when Ole became the permanent manager. Just play Scott in every game and hope He won't injured.
So this cnut was making more comments after the game about how he's not happy on the bench and "as you saw today, I played, and we won". Really hope Fred steps up so we don't have to see this deluded muppet anywhere near the starting XI.
He was diabolically bad. Fred at least can move about.
He'll 100% be gone in the summer (if not earlier). Well unless things go really bad for Ole and he goes first 
In true Jose fashion Matic was signed with short term success in mind and when the title never came in 17/18 he's basically been another key component in need of replacing ever since
In true Jose fashion Matic was signed with short term success in mind and when the title never came in 17/18 he's basically been another key component in need of replacing ever since
So it’s ok if he shows no desire to play and is happy to take the money for nothing?
Feckin obvious players want to play, can’t have a go at him for saying he’s not happy on the bench. I’ve seen a few players who don’t care if they’re picked or not, Matic isn’t one of them, so good for him.
The guy is in simply in total denial, he needs to hang his boots.
He was shite. And if it wasn't for the pen we wouldn't have won.
Wait wait, dont troll, that quote cant be real
That's a scary thought of him staying longer at the club if Solskjear got the sack as that would mean employing another negative manager that favours old experienced players and the physical stature of a player for him to stay any longer than this season.He'll 100% be gone in the summer (if not earlier). Well unless things go really bad for Ole and he goes first
In true Jose fashion Matic was signed with short term success in mind and when the title never came in 17/18 he's basically been another key component in need of replacing ever since
Hopefully he's gone by January and we bring someone in for a replacement which be like adding a extra midfielder to our team rather than a replacement as matic is pretty much a pointless player to have in the firsts team, he's not even a good option as a sub when trying to see out a match and would like to think he only gets game time by default that we have so little in that area and have to make so, would have rather he had gone last January and kept fellaini tbh.
Quote please.
Just post the quote & link. Otherwise it’s fake, don’t believe it. But I really hope he’s not in XI in our next league game but Fred should. He should feature in cup game or Europe league group.
Very unusual from him talking a lot.
We tend to go for outspoken shits don't we?
Thats actually amazing