I didn't say they shouldn't do anything, I just think banning him from playing solves nothing.
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Are you serious?
It would make him and Pep aware that it was a total madness of a joke. Their comments and excuses are laughable and quite frankly weird.
In the worst case, it wil at the very least improve his sense of humour.
Am I misinterpreting this comment?
Think it’s just poorly written, I really hope so anyway because that insinuation is crazy.
Do yourself a favour and read the pages of this thread related to this before you embarrass yourself any more. You might even learn something.
So, are you saying that black people are "offended people who bitch about everything and can't take a joke"?
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Plenty of white people are offended by this. it seems like you're just looking to cause trouble by accusing another poster of calling all black people sensitive bitches. He didn't say anything of the sort for you to even ask that question.
6 game ban would be a bit ridiculous 
Surely a hefty fine and a game or two is more appropriate
Surely a hefty fine and a game or two is more appropriate
He didn't do anything on a football pitch so I think banning him would be wrong. If he must be punished then fine him.
Yeah, Pep has driven me up the wall with his comments this week. I'm not sure how Pep can be as smart as he is, make it as far in life as he has, and meet so many people along the way, and still think there was nothing iffy about what Bernardo did. But I'm not sure banning Bernardo would make anyone understand any better. Just go on Blue Moon right now and find the thread about Bernardo being charged - it's just full of conspiracy theorists who won't acknowledge he did anything wrong and see the potential of him being banned as part of "the agenda". Banning him would only fuel their paranoia further - it's reductive. Fining him and sending him on a course is an opportunity to do something positive and teach others not to make the same mistakes.
Personally I don't give a stuff about missing him for a few games. If him being suspended for six games means we end up missing out on the title then so what? We end up 2nd behind Liverpool come the end of the season and probably still win one trophy this year. Big whoop. That's hardly anything to complain about. City are still gonna exist in the morning and we're still gonna be an entertaining side. No skin off my arse. This undying hunger for success, and the bitterness quite a lot of our fans show towards those who would "seek to deny it from us", doesn't really bother me anymore. We won a domestic treble last season and we play football that's impossible to criticise - after winning so much in such a short space of time I just sit back and let it happen now.
My problem with banning Bernardo is that it places emphasis on punishment rather than rehabilitation. If you ban him for six games he's back for the seventh game, carrying on as if nothing happened. Sure, you get that feeling of "justice" but nothing actually comes of it. If you fine him a week's wages and donate that fine to a charity then his money does some good that stretches beyond the six week punishment period of a ban. And if you send him to a few training courses he can learn to empathise with the people he might have upset. Bernardo's not a bad guy - nobody's saying he's a racist, just that his "joke" with Mendy could be seen as racist (something Pep seems to have misunderstood). Let the punishment fit the crime, let's try to turn this into something positive.
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Apologies dude. for some reason I couldn't load any older pages except the last one so didn't see all that.
Mental that someone could think that outright abusing a player in anger on the pitch is the same as making a stupid joke on twitter.
Silva's a massive tit, but there was no malice in his actions. Suarez is a nasty character who lashed out with a word he knew would get a reaction.
Anyone bar one eyed Liverpool fans - ie the type who thought those Suarez t shirts were acceptable would agree with what you say.
However, we know the FA will want to be seen as taking a "hard line" on such things, even though I dare say most people would read/view what he'd written, and laugh in a "you idiot" sort of sense.
6 games would be a joke. Fine him heavily, make him do community service or something like that.
A lot of people didnt find it racist.
Bottom line is Bernardo will forever have this charge of "Behaving racist" for the rest of his life. Having done something totally innocent.
He is being charged with aggravated misconduct isn't he? Not 'behaving racist'.
He was at the very least racially insensitive to share this on social media. I don't think it is a label which will be on him for the rest of his life. You're being overly dramatic.
Botton line is, we are all responsible for our actions and the consequences that follow them.
A bunch of white guys at the FA telling Mendy he should be offended. Paternalism is one of the worst forms of actual racism.
I've been thinking about this, too. Surely Mendy's opinion should be taken into consideration, but on the other hand, the second this tweet goes online, it's no longer a thing between the two of them alone. The point stands that Silva was using a racially stereotypical image, the likes which have a long and deeply racist history. Therefore it needs to be called out, all the more for his stubborn reaction to the first backlash.
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I think Kick it Out lead these things and they denounced it. I think they’re run by people of colour, the founder is black anyway. Not that black players always agree with their actions.
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Shaving someone’s head off as a form of punishment does not mean that baldness IN ITSELF has the same negative connotations attached to being black. Stop with the false equivalences.
So much wrong with this post in terms of this case...
1. This punishment is not there to say Mendy should be offended. There are people that think he should be but there are also others who disagree and understand why he isn’t, but still think in principle Silvas actions were wrong.
2. There are plenty of people including those in media/footballers/fans that are non white and condemn what Silva has said, both in the tweet and the video. Are we just going to disregard their stances?
The FA should be in place to uphold the rules and to step in when people involved with the game have an issue. Fans are a major part of football and there is a hefty abundance that don’t agree with what Silva has done.
As is repeatedly reiterated regarding the case, once he opened it up to a public space, he’s opening himself to scrutiny.
I can tell you for a fact that if your statement was true then the world would be a much better place. No, paternalism as seen by the FA's behavior, is nowhere close to the worst forms of racism. Not if you know history and all
Stop being ignorant. Youve got black guys in this thread even who are saying they find it offensive. A lot of black people (not all) find it offensive. Why is it so hard for the likes of you and others in here to understand that?
Of course a lot of people dont find it racist. And most of those people are probably white, surprise surprise. Racist acts, whether intentional or not should have consequences.
Extremely presumptuous statement that. I agree with the last part though.
Not sure what i find more amusing, the fact that Silva was thick enough to post something like that or the fact that Guardiola actually defended it by saying "they do look alike"
I've not been in this thread for a while, but fecking hell how did the last few pages manage to become even more of a trainwreck than the initial few. I've just seen someone liken bald jokes to racism and seen someone indirectly say black people are offended people who bitch about everything and can't take a joke 
Bald Lives Matter.I've not been in this thread for a while, but fecking hell how did the last few pages manage to become even more of a trainwreck than the initial few. I've just seen someone liken bald jokes to racism and seen someone indirectly say black people are offended people who bitch about everything and can't take a joke
Not just that - the fact that redcafe is defending himNot sure what i find more amusing, the fact that Silva was thick enough to post something like that or the fact that Guardiola actually defended it by saying "they do look alike"
That should become that poster’s tagline. If ever something was deserving of a tagline, it’s that.I love you
Its the same length of ban Jonny Evans got for spitting at someone.6 game ban would be a bit ridiculous
Surely a hefty fine and a game or two is more appropriate
Yelling and laughing that a black guy is "naked" when he's wearing a black t-shirt is not racist behaviour at all, right? Bernardo Silva might not be getting charged for the video, but this incident, and his response to the tweet, prove how out-of-touch and uneducated he is about racism.
Whatever be the punishment the FA give him, it should include some education on racial stereotypes.
Also, this incident has proven yet again how dim a lot of people are to issues of race. "But, but I have a black friend. HE DIDN'T FIND IT RACIST!"
Whatever be the punishment the FA give him, it should include some education on racial stereotypes.
Also, this incident has proven yet again how dim a lot of people are to issues of race. "But, but I have a black friend. HE DIDN'T FIND IT RACIST!"
Who is saying that Mendy should be offended? No offence was intended, he is close with Bernardo, there is no reason for him to take offence. He found the tweet funny, that's fine. That has no bearing on the content of Bernardo's joke though, only as a mitigating factor to suggest that Bernardo's comparison came from a position of ignorance, not racial prejudice.