Van de Beek too expensive

mitchmouse

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Newspapers are claiming we aren't interested because £35m is too much... of course it might be rubbish but if true: who do the club think they can get who is better? And surely everyone knows that £35m isn't that much any more when it comes to transfers (whether you think it's a lot of money generally is irrelevant). I mean we paid £50m for Fred...
 

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Newspapers are claiming we aren't interested because £35m is too much... of course it might be rubbish but if true: who do the club think they can get who is better? And surely everyone knows that £35m isn't that much any more when it comes to transfers (whether you think it's a lot of money generally is irrelevant). I mean we paid £50m for Fred...
Any link to the newspaper/story? I mean, we were willing to pay that for unproven Longstaff, so I don't really believe it. But who knows anymore.
 

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There's 1 article from the Mirror and it says we decided against it when we decided Pogba was staying, not that we think it's too much. Not exactly 'newspapers claiming'.
 

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Newspapers are claiming we aren't interested because £35m is too much... of course it might be rubbish but if true: who do the club think they can get who is better? And surely everyone knows that £35m isn't that much any more when it comes to transfers (whether you think it's a lot of money generally is irrelevant). I mean we paid £50m for Fred...
I wouldn't believe everything the tabloids say, I'd be amazed if you pulled out of the deal over price, more likely Utd preferred another player if they were in for him at all
 

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we probably would have paid £50m plus if he was English..
 

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There's 1 article from the Mirror and it says we decided against it when we decided Pogba was staying, not that we think it's too much. Not exactly 'newspapers claiming'.
Sun and Express say you pulled out over cost, but none of them can be trusted as any type of source at all.
 

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Bro what the feck? This is from the same club who spent 50m on Fred, 40m on Matic, and was willing to spend similar fees on Sean Longstaff?

Has to be rubbish, we're incompetent but not that incompetent are we?
 

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Austerity has kicked in after 6 years of reckless spending and lack of success, our net spend over the past 2 summers have been quite moderate
 

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Sounds like a load of rubbish tbh. We will no doubt over spend in January anyways for whoever we go for, be it Maddison or Dembele.
 

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surprised we haven't yet been linked to a £75m for two certain brothers... :wenger:
If Ole remains in charge, manutd will start preparing a bid in March and make a £75 bid that is rejected by Newcastle on Jult 28th.
 

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Is he any good? Seems like people want new players every day. I remembered the Caf wanted the club to sign Mario Lemina from Soton when he was first linked. Was he even able to improve the squad? He’ll be classified a deadwood by the same time next year if he isn’t
 

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More likely they didn't want to spend a penny more than they did in the summer - doesn't matter what his price would have been.
 

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Is he any good? Seems like people want new players every day. I remembered the Caf wanted the club to sign Mario Lemina from Soton when he was first linked. Was he even able to improve the squad? He’ll be classified a deadwood by the same time next year if he isn’t
Yeah. I think Madrid are after him though - highly doubt he'd come here.
 

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Don't waste your time and nerves on it. He is very bright and witty boy who just before Ajax qualified to this season CL, said that Real Madrid should leave him alone as he isn't going to consider there offer before next summer. And it was a direct quote from him, not some tabloid made - up story.

So doesn't matter what you read now, he isn't going to go anywhere from Ajax before next summer at least. And by then his price might have doubled from now and he has a wide range to choose from.
 

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Yeah. I think Madrid are after him though - highly doubt he'd come here.
This.

And you can watch him play this weeks Euro Qualifiers. At least; i think Koeman will finally use him.

But he won't leave in the winter anyway.
 

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“If true” is never a good basis on which to start a thread.

You haven't even bothered to include links in the OP.

1/10.
 

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Is he any good? Seems like people want new players every day. I remembered the Caf wanted the club to sign Mario Lemina from Soton when he was first linked. Was he even able to improve the squad? He’ll be classified a deadwood by the same time next year if he isn’t
He would have been a good signing for that figure, yes — would have been a good signing for even £50 million. Shouldn't be compared with Lemina, who has always underperformed despite being quite talented. Van de Beek is not the most exquisite passer from midfield, can't really dictate games yet, isn't the most athletic player, but...
  • He seems to be quite advanced in the way he interprets the game (like Thomas Müller, who wouldn't have made it at the top level without that quality).
  • A tireless worker on the pitch and reportedly a wise-head at Ajax — so he could develop into a leader at United.
  • Has a refined nose for goal from midfield (20 in just over a year) and frequently makes runs from the deep, which is a characteristic we sometimes lack.
  • Positionally versatile as a point forward or all-round central midfielder, and balances Ajax's system — e.g. last season De Jong would drop into the left half of defense to form a back-3 with Blind and De Ligt, while van de Beek and Schöne would hold fort in midfield. This term they often deploy a similar scheme depending on phase of the game, and van de Beek is crucial in 4-3-3 to 3-4-3 (or vice versa) transitions...

Tadić
Neres Van de Beek Ziyech
Martínez Álvarez
Tagliafico Blind Veltman Dest
Onana​

Neres Tadić Ziyech
Tagliafico Van de Beek Álvarez Dest
Martínez Blind Veltman
Onana​

  • Did really well in Ajax's big games last season: scored vs. Juventus and Tottenham, and was on of the best players on the pitch vs. Madrid as a phantom second striker (setting the stage for Tadić to produce one of the best Champions League performances in recent memory).
The current United team in short on players with his qualities, IMO, so he could have been an astute signing — though conversely, he could have found himself on the sidelines like Blind because the way we structure ourselves might not have suited his skill set, especially if there was positional overlap between him and Pogba.
 

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It's The Mirror ffs. I can quote you more reliable sources that say he'll cost over 100 million euros.
 

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Sure, sure. They valued him at £35mil in the summer but now Madrid are going to pay £100mil for him. Makes perfect sense.

There’s some real gullible fools on this site.
 

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Ed probably got suspicious of the player's quality when quoted 35 million.
 

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Not a big fans of this guy. I would rather signing Bruno due to we need playmaker & creativity in the team. However, if the one who said Bruno isn't the right signing is the same person then he needs to be punch right in the stomach. And if he's the same person as the one who recommended Fred & cost us 50m then he should be sacked asap. We could be in serious mess if we keep this person.
 

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Van de Beek would add nothing to this United side. He's benefiting immensely from the creativity he's surrounded with at Ajax.

Still, Ajax isn't letting him go for less than 60 million, so this is definitely rubbish.
 

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“If true” is never a good basis on which to start a thread.

You haven't even bothered to include links in the OP.

1/10.
lucky I'm not a little schoolboy then. i you able to understand plain language: how can I give links if I can't remember where I read/heard it.
0/10
 

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Been seeing this about for a few days. It’s obviously rubbish. If we wanted VDB, we would have paid £35m for him. We only wanted Brits, and Ajax were asking for more than that according to all reports, reports that never mentioned us and continuously linked VDB with Madrid.
 

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Sure, sure. They valued him at £35mil in the summer but now Madrid are going to pay £100mil for him. Makes perfect sense.

There’s some real gullible fools on this site.
The forum is full of whoppers at the moment. The whole 'Rashy' and we only buy English players narrative is ridiculous too. I genuinely wish the boring cnuts would leave the club and close the door behind them. Plenty of space for them at the Etihad.
 

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He would have been a good signing for that figure, yes — would have been a good signing for even £50 million. Shouldn't be compared with Lemina, who has always underperformed despite being quite talented. Van de Beek is not the most exquisite passer from midfield, can't really dictate games yet, isn't the most athletic player, but...
  • He seems to be quite advanced in the way he interprets the game (like Thomas Müller, who wouldn't have made it at the top level without that quality).
  • A tireless worker on the pitch and reportedly a wise-head at Ajax — so he could develop into a leader at United.
  • Has a refined nose for goal from midfield (20 in just over a year) and frequently makes runs from the deep, which is a characteristic we sometimes lack.
  • Positionally versatile as a point forward or all-round central midfielder, and balances Ajax's system — e.g. last season De Jong would drop into the left half of defense to form a back-3 with Blind and De Ligt, while van de Beek and Schöne would hold fort in midfield. This term they often deploy a similar scheme depending on phase of the game, and van de Beek is crucial in 4-3-3 to 3-4-3 (or vice versa) transitions...

Tadić
Neres Van de Beek Ziyech
Martínez Álvarez
Tagliafico Blind Veltman Dest
Onana​

Neres Tadić Ziyech
Tagliafico Van de Beek Álvarez Dest
Martínez Blind Veltman
Onana​

  • Did really well in Ajax's big games last season: scored vs. Juventus and Tottenham, and was on of the best players on the pitch vs. Madrid as a phantom second striker (setting the stage for Tadić to produce one of the best Champions League performances in recent memory).
The current United team in short on players with his qualities, IMO, so he could have been an astute signing — though conversely, he could have found himself on the sidelines like Blind because the way we structure ourselves might not have suited his skill set, especially if there was positional overlap between him and Pogba.
Totally agree.