Did you re-read that before writing that?I don't see how you can call him average, he's better than Gary Neville at the same age. If the coaches think he's decent then he needs time. He can also fill in more than one position which is always useful.
One of the all time most ludicrous comparisons. I wonder if he works for the club"Better than Neville" is a funny one.
Worse than that..... Periera joined Leicester the same summer for a similar fee from the same club as Dalot, FCPorto.Looks like a sign of our scattergun transfer record to be honest.
Buy a right back for 20m, then the next summer buy a slightly older one for 50m.
We don't seem to have the knack of discovering and targeting the right players.Worse than that..... Periera joined Leicester the same summer for a similar fee from the same club as Dalot, FCPorto.
What on earth were our scouts doing? Yes Periera is older but my god the gap in quality is huge.
Neville improved a lot but it’s not still not even a comparison between the two. What has Dalot done since he joined or at Porto, he’s still not even ahead of Ashley Young.Who else did England have? For me, Neville was bang average until about the age of 25 when he both worked out the offside rule and how to cross the ball.
He's played mostly ok in a shite team. Neville played mostly ok in excellent teams. That's the only difference at this point. What took Gaz up a level to being a top 5 right back in the world was how he trained and learned, not his ability as a youngster. If the coaches think Dalot can work and improve then he'll be a useful player for us, I don't think it's at all controversial.Neville improved a lot but it’s not still not even a comparison between the two. What has Dalot done since he joined or at Porto, he’s still not even ahead of Ashley Young.
You fancy him to beat his man and get a cross in but when he's defending you fancy his man to beat him and get a cross in.
Lot's of crosses one way or another.
No he wasn't. He came out of the blue, and he was never really on the lists of the top youngsters in the world. We had a free run at him.We didn't pluck Dalot out of nowhere. He was one of the highest touted youth players in the world who was chased by every single club. He was clearly doing something at youth level to have everyone's scouts interested.
Wrong. He was known by every single person in the youth football community. You knowing nothing doesn't make a player out of the blue.No he wasn't. He came out of the blue, and he was never really on the lists of the top youngsters in the world. We had a free run at him.
Except he hasn’t played mostly ok and can’t even get into the shite team. Makes zero sense to even compare him with Neville at this point.He's played mostly ok in a shite team. Neville played mostly ok in excellent teams. That's the only difference at this point. What took Gaz up a level to being a top 5 right back in the world was how he trained and learned, not his ability as a youngster. If the coaches think Dalot can work and improve then he'll be a useful player for us, I don't think it's at all controversial.
Weird claimCan't understand the stick he gets on here. His poor defending is not really worse than what you have on both flanks except wan bissaka (that i never seen play).
I watched last match where Dalot played and he was exposed 1v1 all the time. Teams don't defend like that, no matter who you have at full back.
With that said he's future at OT was sealed the moment you bought Wan Bissaka. Another odd decision by the club who should have went for someone more experienced só Dalot could take over in a season or two.
He's a worse defender than Young. Wan Bissaka was absolutely not the odd decision here as he's shown to be a much better player than Dalot.Can't understand the stick he gets on here. His poor defending is not really worse than what you have on both flanks except wan bissaka (that i never seen play).
I watched last match where Dalot played and he was exposed 1v1 all the time. Teams don't defend like that, no matter who you have at full back.
With that said he's future at OT was sealed the moment you bought Wan Bissaka. Another odd decision by the club who should have went for someone more experienced só Dalot could take over in a season or two.
That is firmly in the territory of your personal opinion. He's a young right full back playing for Manchester United who hasn't really impressed much yet, I'm very happy comparing him to Gary Neville.Except he hasn’t played mostly ok and can’t even get into the shite team. Makes zero sense to even compare him with Neville at this point.
I agree that Ashley Young IS a better full back than Diogo Dalot. I am still very much intrigued to see how good a full back Dalot may BECOME. Defensively, he showed improvement last game against Maximin. If he improves as much every third month, he’ll be a top class full back while still U-23.He's a worse defender than Young. Wan Bissaka was absolutely not the odd decision here as he's shown to be a much better player than Dalot.
I thought he had a really rough time against Newcastle, but you're right he was better than previous. Just where do you play him? I'd say he's the worst of our 4 full backs, so if everyone is fit he shouldn't be getting into the team in the current situation.I agree that Ashley Young IS a better full back than Diogo Dalot. I am still very much intrigued to see how good a full back Dalot may BECOME. Defensively, he showed improvement last game against Maximin. If he improves as much every third month, he’ll be a top class full back while still U-23.
It’s really a brilliant situation to have two players like Wan-Bissaka in one position.
He can be your best fb in a couple years but it's difficult when you're new and in a disjointed team. There's no future for him there whatsoever after AWB investment even if he has more potential.Weird claim
The odd decision was signing Dalot in the first place
I think it’s harsh dealing out ‘worst’-labels on U20 players comparing them with seniors, but OK, I agree he is ‘worst’ today, like Greenwood is our worst striker and Gomes is our worst no 10. I don’t necessarily think he is that much defensive improvement away from being our second best FB, though, hard to tell really. 1-v-1 defending and positioning development sometimes comes in a rush and sometimes comes slowly in young defenders.I thought he had a really rough time against Newcastle, but you're right he was better than previous. Just where do you play him? I'd say he's the worst of our 4 full backs, so if everyone is fit he shouldn't be getting into the team in the current situation.
If we were flying high, then yeah I'd be a little nicer towards him, but we really can't afford to bench better players at the moment. I'm all for him taking Young's spot, but right now we need results and Young, AWB, and Shaw are all performing better than him. He's in the weird gray area of youth development, where he needs games, but we need results.I think it’s harsh dealing out ‘worst’-labels on U20 players comparing them with seniors, but OK, I agree he is ‘worst’ today, like Greenwood is our worst striker and Gomes is our worst no 10. I don’t necessarily think he is that much defensive improvement away from being our second best FB, though, hard to tell really. 1-v-1 defending and positioning development sometimes comes in a rush and sometimes comes slowly in young defenders.
In the current situation I agree we should prioritise keeping the same first eleven for the PL as far as possible, which has been impossible with all the injuries. Given the injuries, I am very happy we have Dalot, as the alternative would be even younger, even less ready players thrown into the mix.
I don’t think anyone can argue Dalot has done well since he joined, he might have potential but just odd to even compare him to Neville. We bought a RB who’s not much older than Dalot which is a reflection of what his future is likely to be.That is firmly in the territory of your personal opinion. He's a young right full back playing for Manchester United who hasn't really impressed much yet, I'm very happy comparing him to Gary Neville.
Agreed. For sure I'd like him to kick on but as you say he's a very young player who's been in and out with injuries. Considering the problems at this club and the player churn we have now and will probably have in the near future I can't believe people are declaring Dalot a flop who should be sold.People are quick to forget he was among our better players vs Barca and PSG in the CL
He is 19 and only just coming back from injury, relax.
I follow you on that one. Though, results are only important at the time to placate the more negativistic parts of the fans and oress so they don’t contribute to bury the no doubt tried confidences of our young players.If we were flying high, then yeah I'd be a little nicer towards him, but we really can't afford to bench better players at the moment. I'm all for him taking Young's spot, but right now we need results and Young, AWB, and Shaw are all performing better than him. He's in the weird gray area of youth development, where he needs games, but we need results.
What do you mean again? He's been injured since the Newcastle game.Injured again