calodo2003
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Brilliant.Injured.
Brilliant.Injured.
Jesus. You don't think Ole has a say in how many minutes he plays? It was stupid management. He shouldn't have played him at all or a half at the most. We had a huge game against Arsenal just 5 days later.Tickles me that fans are blaming Ole for Pogba playing against Rochdale, it will have been 100% Pogba's call, he probably volunteered to play to prove his fitness, and it's not Ole's fault if Pogba decided to play the full 90+ minutes if as suspected he'd picked up an injury, or aggravated a previous injury whilst he was on the pitch.
When did Ole find out Pogba played through the pain barrier, after the game or at half-time? If it was at half-time he should have taken him off, if it was at full-time what should he have done? - Educated guess here but whenever Ole found out it will have been after Paul, and it was up to him, his responsibility to ask to come off.There's actual video footage above of Ole saying Paul played through the pain barrier so they're both at fault. Pogba for playing when he knew he was in pain, and the management staff for knowing it also and not at least bringing him off. It was stupid to play him against Rochdale, unless you're saying the players pick themselves? If so, we have an even bigger problem than we thought we did.
The only way Ole is absolved of blame is if Pogba told him he was in pain after the Arsenal game but I think it was clear he was rushed back way sooner than he should have been.
I can't remember, nor be arsed to check, how the match played out with substitutions(ie. any enforced), but if Pogba told Ole he was fine at half-time why not leave him on, it's not as though he over-stretches himself at the best of times, it's was just a pleasant evening stroll for him.Jesus. You don't think Ole has a say in how many minutes he plays? It was stupid management. He shouldn't have played him at all or a half at the most. We had a huge game against Arsenal just 5 days later.
Although hes our "best" player in terms of pure talent, hes not our most important one by a long shot and imo our team as a whole would benefit from him leaving. Jose is no angel, but i dont think the conflict he had with Pogba was all his own makingObviously lads , what has happened to De Gea whilst playing for Spain is unfortunate , to say the least especially as we are playing our most hated and fiercest rivals on Sunday
Romero is not as good as De Gea but he is a good steady Goalkeeper who will not let us down (cue a mistake now in the game arghhhh....lol)
Pogba , on the other hand - is no surprise to me whatsoever
It is blatant to most United Fans and Supporters that he does not want to be a the Club and plays that way , in the vast majority of matches for us
At the risk of stimulating debate - and lets face it , that's what these Forums are about , Opinions and Debate - I , for one , am sick and tired of him and have been , for a good 18 months or so now
I would sell him at the first opportunity if I could and I say , if I could - because I do not believe many Teams would actually be willing to buy him and certainly not for the money that is being asked
The wider issue being - that despite what I have just said about Paul Pogba - the reality is , that he is still our best player (aside from maybe De Gea) and therefore selling him would weaken our team even further - That is the massive dilemma with him
There aren't. Well the doubts come from people from the Caf which are based on absolutely nothing other than bizarre and wild speculation.Why are there doubts over the injuries?
RomeroRochdale for any other top team is a blessing, a game where they can relax, try new things, rotate, blood the youngster
We see it as cup final going full strenght on an already barebone squad...
Allison got injured the SAME way De Gea did for Liverpool, and they had to play a makeshift keeper at best. Get out of here with bs like this.Just bad luck? This bad luck does not happen to teams on the up.
Because Pogba was declared fit to play by the medical staff at Manchester United. Paul Pogba is also our most important player and that game was supposed to be a easy chance for him to get some much needed match training in his legs again.Why was Pogba playing in some random 3rd round league cup game? Ole deserve the boot for that alone.
And we were getting beat anyway.
You don't even have to give other club examples, we had injury crisis every season under SAF and we used to win league without any problem. This 'bad luck doesn't happen to teams on the up' is such a load of crap.Allison got injured the SAME way De Gea did for Liverpool, and they had to play a makeshift keeper at best. Get out of here with bs like this.
With all due respect, the league is such a different animal now than it was only 7 years ago. Teams like Manchester City that has received enormous financial doping, new generation of players that far exceed the previous one, everything about the league and the teams in it has evolved.You don't even have to give other club examples, we had injury crisis every season under SAF and we used to win league without any problem. This 'bad luck doesn't happen to teams on the up' is such a load of crap.
Maybe you need to re-read my post.With all due respect, the league is such a different animal now than it was only 7 years ago. Teams like Manchester City that has received enormous financial doping, new generation of players that far exceed the previous one, everything about the league and the teams in it has evolved.
Our injury problems combined with our squad depth simply means that we lack the quality to compete just yet.
Team wins 1 in 5... not so shocking, I guess.Team loses game shocker.
Yeah if memory serves me right didn't Gerrard hit the post when on for a hattrick of penalties in that game.We were losing anyway.
Hopefully it doesn't turn to be embarrassing as the 0-3 in Moyes season.
How stupid? Can you clarify on that?This is the one huge criticism I'd have of Ole . His game management and player management is shocking . Risking Pogba in such a shit match was idiotic. There are reports coming from the training ground that the training is stupid and it's a big reason why we have so many players out with muscle injuries since he took over
No doubt that will be Ole and his coaches fault as well.Just read that Alexis Sanchez is out injured three months following an ankle surgery after getting injured in the internationals last weekend. Inters rental gamble in shambles.
The state of this post.De Gea and Pogba out, whats the chance OGS getting ready for his excuses?
I have seen Liverpool be shit for weeks but turn up against us and win. If this team don’t turn up then its down to OGS for not able to motivate the players to give it all.
OGS should be sacked if we don't play well.
Yup. He should be sacked for this.No doubt that will be Ole and his coaches fault as well.
Ridiculous thread. Pogba was in a cast a few days ago. What do you expect him to do?Not surprised at wantaway Pogba not being fit. De Gea situation unfortunate.
But this injury problem at United right now is unprecedented and speaks to the desire within this squad.
Perfect reason to report this post.Not surprised at wantaway Pogba not being fit. De Gea situation unfortunate.
But this injury problem at United right now is unprecedented and speaks to the desire within this squad.
Pogba has been videoed wearing a cast no less than 5 days ago during his recovery period in Dubai. Like, I really don't get it. What do people get out of just making things up? Not saying that you are but whoever said this to you just lied to your face. Pogba has been in Dubai in the heat, recovering and training in the heat. The warm weather is beneficial to the recovery process, that's why he's there and not in the UKI'm not claiming to be an ITK but I heard that Pogba is fit and he's being saved so he can be sold in January.
That doesn't make sense, why would we allow Pogba to live it up in Dubai, whilst we play Liverpool with an injury hit squad?I'm not claiming to be an ITK but I heard that Pogba is fit and he's being saved so he can be sold in January.
And if we don't get embarrassed?That doesn't make sense, why would we allow Pogba to live it up in Dubai, whilst we play Liverpool with an injury hit squad?
I'd even say Oles job is on the line vs Liverpool, if we get embarrassed, he'll be sacked.
Naaa... Whatever, we must play as per our tradition and philosophy. We must attack Liverpool even if that means a 5-0 loss.Now Pogba's out, any ideas of taking the game to them are long gone, so we'll have to set up like a lesser team away to a big team.
Fun.
We haven't played attacking football once all season but now we're going to take it to Liverpool?Naaa... Whatever, we must play as per our tradition and philosophy. We must attack Liverpool even if that means a 5-0 loss.