Don’t see what the issue is.
MUFC new transfer recruitment procedure
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Reportedly mourinho didn't even want Fred?
We would've never signed Eric Cantona if this system was in place back then. 
Must be quite a great system. Wait for Maguire a year so he costs 20 mill more.
Groundbreaking stuff.
God... Woodward and his briefings whenever he is criticised.
Groundbreaking stuff.
God... Woodward and his briefings whenever he is criticised.
I wonder what ‘system’ Liverpool used to find those much cheaper but wonderful fullbacks?
Was Fred top 3 from 804 midfield players?
Probably a lot of regens
I feel there will be a lot more similar articles before OGS is sacked. Ed covering his arse..it's never his fault people!
serious question.....
how do you use data to identify players when you haven't got a style of play or consistent tactical approach
how do you use data to identify players when you haven't got a style of play or consistent tactical approach
Let's see who the next 3 signings are. If they are as good as the last 3 then there may be some merit in it. We can only take it on face value at the moment.
There are so many holes in the approach
They really should have just kept mum rather than blurting out what the approach is. Now we're just angrier and can confirm it's shite. They don't really need to use any data or anything, it's clear they just go by obvious transfers. Like when Jose wanted some centre backs it was all rejected with Woody pretty much saying "we have 100m for Varane but aren't spending these amounts on anyone else".
The software they're using is a cover name for F.M
This. Ed is placing ego and self preservation over genuine transformation of how the club is run which is just a shame. The people being credited with the system are a mish mash of old and sometimes failed regimes who should have walked with their old bosses but are beholden to Woodward for their promotions and continued stay at the club. It's a committee of failed yes men who will do his bidding and take the blame.
It seems as if the club is preparing to sack Ole and so they are loading all the credit and blame for the summer business on his head and absolving themselves of any blame. I think it's easier with the fans for Woodward to just accept that he lacks the skill set to deal with the complexities of football leadership and brief that that's why he is bringing in a Technical Director/DOF to take reins of the football side and help him than these plain lies which can be spotted from a mile away.
Who Mou wanted to sign previously for less money. But Woodward said 'no'
Groundbreaking data alright - 804 RB’s and it tells us to sign one of the best RB in the PL , I don’t need any data to say that was a no brainer just like Maguire.
Pity this software doesn’t pick out these gems from abroad that every other club seems to find.
Pity this software doesn’t pick out these gems from abroad that every other club seems to find.
And definitely not Bebe.We would've never signed Eric Cantona if this system was in place back then.
Recruitment department vetoing manager, manager vetoing recruitment department. Good god we are fecked.
Jazzed up is pushing it, probably is just FM.
I wonder where the worst right back played his football. 804 right backs seems a hell of a lot
So geniuses couldn't buy him for the alleged fee of 60m only to buy him at a more expensive fee a year later. Brilliant
To be fair we have no idea what the fk is going on behind the scenes. It came out that the board said no to Maguire but what actually happened? Did Woodward really rock up to the recruitment office and shout i dont want slab head? I doubt it. There is a whole team including the manager and finance making these decisions. Maybe just maybe Leicester said 90 last year and only dropped to 80 this year cos Maguire said he wants out. Maybe the scouts said no. Who knows. Its a whole big fk up the last 6 years thats for sure but Woodward is only part of the problem.
Are they applying a filter “must be British”?
It’s the only logical explanation for why when Ole requested a midfielder, the system analysed thousands of players across the globe and spit out “Sean Longstaff is your man”.
It’s the only logical explanation for why when Ole requested a midfielder, the system analysed thousands of players across the globe and spit out “Sean Longstaff is your man”.
He wasn't available for 60m which was the issue.
Its hilarious,isn't it.
We can see a pattern though ie a board who don't mind allowing the team to start the season with huge holes in the first team that would end up ruining the season for us
It was defense last season and CM/fwd this season. Ah and of course the RW which was a consistent problem
He was reportedly cheaper last season then he is now
Woodward is really feeling the pressure isn’t he?
He wasn't, we have no idea about what Leicester were willing to take. If we believe reports United offered at least 65m and then it died.
So basically Woodward and his old Uni pals have a sophisticated system that allowed them to come to the following conclusions
- Wan Bissaka was one of the best young players in the league (who everyone talked about).
- That they could be confident enough to tell Jose that they would not buy the centre back he wanted (sending our season into a tailspin).
- That they should then buy that centre back for 20m more a year later.
- Allowed them to only be 6 months behind Championship Leeds in identifying and trying to sign Dan James.
Let's say its true. Surely we could come out with alternatives. Time and time again we notice a board who don't mind seeing us starting the season with a huge hole at first team level who would ruin the season
That's unacceptable for a top club
Do they have software for finding managers?
so what, we scouted every professional right back in the world?
Absolute bollocks.
What a great process to deny Jose a CV because he "wasn't better than what we have" then pay £20m more for the EXACT SAME BLOKE a year later.
Feck this club.
What a great process to deny Jose a CV because he "wasn't better than what we have" then pay £20m more for the EXACT SAME BLOKE a year later.
Feck this club.
I totally agree with that but the same journos can't claim that we bid for Maguire and now report that we vetoed him.
And their backups.so what, we scouted every professional right back in the world?
Yup, I think another managerial change could make his position untenable that along with the falling value of the club which is the glazers overriding concern.
It all reads like they’ve bought a copy of Football Manager, loaded all the leagues and gotten a semi from having 800 odd right backs to look at.
I have reservations about how the new system works - which were highlighted here.
But on the otherhand, it s a so far so good thing. I don't care if the system is stating the bloody obvious... But till now it worked fine.
Also being the best epl player in a particular role doesn't necessarily mean he is the best player a particular system needs
But on the otherhand, it s a so far so good thing. I don't care if the system is stating the bloody obvious... But till now it worked fine.
Also being the best epl player in a particular role doesn't necessarily mean he is the best player a particular system needs
And if you have ever done that, you soon realise that most of them are absolute crap and buy the most expensive one in the Premier League.
Interestingly that is exactly what Woodward did.
Yeah this whole thing just sounds like bollocks.