Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Why do the Ole in fans always reduce the opposition argument to "want instant success?" Have you guys not ready any posts? The fans want to see attacking football. Klopp had Liverpool exciting from the very first week, and this has been a constant of his Liverpool side just like it was with Dortmund. Why on earth can't Ole do the same if he's the right manager? We're not asking for much. Show us the side is being coached properly that could make us believe in the project.
Give him a fully fit squad and he may have a chance at the moment fancy football is the least of his/our concerns.
 

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So basically he was shit at any club that wasn't at amateur level. Thanks for answering

His comment is pretty stupid considering no one knows the future + United hasn't won a title since Sir Alex retired and has been in steady decline since that time (I dare to say more). This will probably backfire on him just as Gaz's stupid United will win the league before Liverpool do comment. Both stink of arrogance and sense of entitlement if you ask me. Titles are won on the pitch by teams with top players that are lead well not at pressers
Arh,I disliked him so much when he said that. Like,Liverpool don't/didn't need any more motivation.

 

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He won't be sack today even if we lose. And that shows where this club ambition are.
 

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What Ole needs is the support from his fans, the real fans, not the wankers who just want instant success.
Ah yes, because asking for some half-decent football and a few shots on target is wanting instant success, right?

Imagine if Sir Alex was manager now. Can you imagine the shit he would get? It was bad enough back then, I can't imagine what it would be like now.
Not this again, please. Really, not every Joe on the street who signed up to manage United deserves more time because Fergie did mate, mate - get over it. Moyes didn't, Ole, who shouldn't have been signed perm, sure as hell doesn't.

If Ole fails it certainly won't be for a lack of passion or trying and I would rather support him than anyone else simply because he loves United and is here for love, not the money.
Couldn't give a feck about his passion and trying. When, not if, he fails, it should be clear to everyone that he's easily one of the top 5 inept managers around, if not already.
 

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Why do the Ole in fans always reduce the opposition argument to "want instant success?" Have you guys not ready any posts? The fans want to see attacking football. Klopp had Liverpool exciting from the very first week, and this has been a constant of his Liverpool side just like it was with Dortmund. Why on earth can't Ole do the same if he's the right manager? We're not asking for much. Show us the side is being coached properly that could make us believe in the project.
I am not even asking for that. I am asking for a United manager whose not constantly being outwitted by shit managers whose managing shittier squads then ours, a manager who shows some sort of vision rather then resort to the usual cliques and soundbites. But hey, we should be dazzled because he discovered Mourinho's target and he bought a player Giggs had recommended.
 

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Why do the Ole in fans always reduce the opposition argument to "want instant success?" Have you guys not ready any posts? The fans want to see attacking football. Klopp had Liverpool exciting from the very first week, and this has been a constant of his Liverpool side just like it was with Dortmund. Why on earth can't Ole do the same if he's the right manager? We're not asking for much. Show us the side is being coached properly that could make us believe in the project.
I’d take signs we are at least trying to play decent football, hints of patterns of play and some attacking intent.

All we will get if we persist with Ole is the same tactics, same coaching and same way of playing but probably with some better players. In all likelihood those players will be extremely expensive and take years to recruit. Doesn’t fill me with any confidence or excitement.
 

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It’s like we’ve given Joe Bloggs off the street an apprenticeship in football management. We aren’t a club for rookie managers to gain experience at.

The way he speaks, the way he holds himself, the facial expressions, the body language. It all screams clueless amateur out of their depth.

If you’re not winning football games, you have to look at yourself and understand things aren’t working. So it worries me when he insists he’s happy with the progress he is seeing, the plan that he is implementing, that “the structure is right because the final decision rests with the manager”. So he’s confirming our squad is as threadbare as it is due to his inept decision making.

Sentimentality has no place here. We are a sinking ship and too many people are refusing to jump overboard to save themselves and the team.

His uninspired tactics are causing very lacklustre performances which breeds a severe lack of confidence in our players. You can only lose so many times before it impacts your mindset. This can cause irreparable damage to players and if it is allowed to continue it will become more than a mountain to climb to regain that confidence and bring our performances back to the level they should be at.
 

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Can you imagine how infuriating it's going to be seeing him smiling and acting care-free after we've lost 0-3 at home to our greatest rivals?

Get ready to be infuriated.
 

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It’s like we’ve given Joe Bloggs off the street an apprenticeship in football management. We aren’t a club for rookie managers to gain experience at.

The way he speaks, the way he holds himself, the facial expressions, the body language. It all screams clueless amateur out of their depth.

If you’re not winning football games, you have to look at yourself and understand things aren’t working. So it worries me when he insists he’s happy with the progress he is seeing, the plan that he is implementing, that “the structure is right because the final decision rests with the manager”. So he’s confirming our squad is as threadbare as it is due to his inept decision making.

Sentimentality has no place here. We are a sinking ship and too many people are refusing to jump overboard to save themselves and the team.

His uninspired tactics are causing very lacklustre performances which breeds a severe lack of confidence in our players. You can only lose so many times before it impacts your mindset. This can cause irreparable damage to players and if it is allowed to continue it will become more than a mountain to climb to regain that confidence and bring our performances back to the level they should be at.
Sadly your assessment is correct. How did we end up like this?
 

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One thing il give Ole before a ball is kicked, he's not sticking with the same dire formation it seems.

Whether it works is another issue but thank god he ditched a failed system for this game to at least try something new.
 

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One thing il give Ole before a ball is kicked, he's not sticking with the same dire formation it seems.

Whether it works is another issue but thank god he ditched a failed system for this game to at least try something new.
Ditched it for something even more defensive and submissive
 

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Strangely few comments about what an amateur he is - and that he is the worst manager in the League.
 

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Yes a back 5.
It's more a back 3 and wingbacks.

No sensible person would suggest we were defeatist or defensive after watching this 45 minutes. Do you just argue for the sake of arguing?
 

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It's more a back 3 and wingbacks.

No sensible person would suggest we were defeatist or defensive after watching this 45 minutes. Do you just argue for the sake of arguing?
WB and Young are right alongside the CBs when Liverpool have the ball. The front 3 of Rashford, James and Andreas have done well. We dont have fullbacks bombing forward after the first 10 mins
 

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Ok, today i see some grit, style and passion. We have quality issues all through out but as long as the players how this determination we will get better.
 

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WB and Young are right alongside the CBs when Liverpool have the ball. The front 3 of Rashford, James and Andreas have done well. We dont have fullbacks bombing forward after the first 10 mins
AWB has crossed the ball in loads of times from advanced positions beyond 10 mins. We're all watching the same game, you won't find anyone agreeing that our set up has been defensive or defeatist.
 

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Like last season he seems to have well thought out tactical plans in the big games that are simple but allow us to make the most of our strengths and gives us the best possible chance against better opposition.
 

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Set the team up well again. Considering the personnel available they've been really good.
 

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AWB has crossed the ball in loads of times from advanced positions beyond 10 mins. We're all watching the same game, you won't find anyone agreeing that our set up has been defensive or defeatist.
Crossing the ball in doesn't mean you are in midfield
 

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Ole has set up the team very well in that first half and deserves credit. Hopefully we can keep solid and catch them again on the break.

Rashford has bullied both of their CB's today after all that talk of Virgil being next to faultless haha!
 
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Ditched it for something even more defensive and submissive
When he doesn't adapt he's accused of being tactically clueless, when he sets the team up to play on the counter against probably the best team in world football at this moment in time, he's 'defensive and submissive' despite it being fairly obvious he can't go toe-to-toe with Liverpool given our injury situation. Fergie set up defensively against Barcelona twice because there was just no way we were gonna beat them setting up for possession football. The gulf in quality between this current United team and Liverpool is greater than the difference between the two aforementioned teams in 2009 and 2011.
 

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Even without those VAR decisions (which are correct), we did very well again the league leader, and we can easily see his game plan. Why do people still think that he's without a clue?
 

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Even without those VAR decisions (which are correct), we did very well again the league leader, and we can easily see his game plan. Why do people still think that he's without a clue?
We were the better side first half. Good game plan and tactics. We could still lose but Ole did great with what he has. Ole in, no doubt about it.
 

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He has gotten his tactics spot on here with a depleted squad.

I do actually think there have been multiple examples of him being quite knowledgeable tactically. I don't think we will get a chance to see it at Utd but I do think there is a good coach in there if lacking a little experience.
 

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When he doesn't adapt he's accused of being tactically clueless, when he sets the team up to play on the counter against probably the best team in world football at this moment in time, he's 'defensive and submissive' despite it being fairly obvious he can't go toe-to-toe with Liverpool given our injury situation. Fergie set up defensively against Barcelona twice because there was just no way we were gonna beat them setting up for possession football. The gulf in quality between this current United team and Liverpool is greater than the difference between the two aforementioned teams in 2009 and 2011.
What are you disagreeing with? You just said he set the team up to counter with a more defensive setup just like I did.
 

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He has gotten his tactics spot on here with a depleted squad.

I do actually think there have been multiple examples of him being quite knowledgeable tactically. I don't think we will get a chance to see it at Utd but I do think there is a good coach in there if lacking a little experience.
The smartest thing we have done is in periods to move Rashford and James out wide and basically playing with 2 wingers and no striker - that way we are stopping ATA and Robinson
 

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Even without those VAR decisions (which are correct), we did very well again the league leader, and we can easily see his game plan. Why do people still think that he's without a clue?
Because those same people want him gone and this wouldn't suit their narrative. Even Souness is saying this and giving credit where it's due.
 
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