[Sandikan]

Sending out James and Rashford to press like headless chickens - when the rest of the team is backing off - is exactly the problem. It's not called a tactical plan. How many times did their back line experience any real pressure in the game? It IS amateur level tactics.

How would you have set up today?

 

[meamth]

Clueless fans who doesn't understand football:

"We are clueless in the 2nd half "

Fans who understands football:

"A winning team chasing a goal to level the score will always step it up in the 2nd half".

 

[JG3001]

Until we can score more than one goal a game, we’re going to see a lot more of these disappointing endings.

 

[Banana Republic]

When we turn up and put on a real effort, which hasn’t been happening often enough, we are only a 60 minute team.
After that we have nothing left in the tank and the squad is so thin where it matters, midfield and attack, that we just can’t keep any momentum going, or bring on any effective subs.

 

[Canagel]

Lucky draw .We should be grateful to the ref for allowing our goal to stand.

 

[ivaldo]

It's a point. Should we be celebrating home draws now?

Let's put it another way. Did you expect us to win today?

 

[Sandikan]

We halted LFC's winning streak, which is a positive.
Many teams have lost to LFC, we didn't - a positive.
The players did well today - another positive.
Not much else to say.

Totally this.

How anyone can possibly not follow this line of thinking I don't know.

It's not the day for moaning about tactics or "negativity".
That will no doubt come over the next few games

 

[Sandikan]

Lucky draw .We should be grateful to the ref for allowing our goal to stand.

Lucky draw, even though they scored late?

 

[SAFMUTD]

Really proud of the team today. They played their guts out. Great intensity for most of the match but just ran out of legs in the end. Thought Ole got it right for most of the match except I would of taken Pereira off ten minutes earlier he just hasn't got 90 in him. If we can get over this injury crisis I am confident the only way is up.

Surely we cant get lower than this

 

[90 + 5min]

We were there not to lose. Liverpool were there to win. Draw seems to be fair because we were better team in first while Liverpool dominated second. Whit all the pressure on us from every corner. With injuries. With Liverpool being very good team. I think it is a small step forward.

Ole did well from the start and by playing with wingbacks he totally took out Robertson / Trent. That meant we could control the game in first. Then I thought we were just to defensive and that is something that will punish you. Credit to Klopp for changing game when he took out Origi and put on more mobile Ox.

VAR is still catastrofic, if it is used like this.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

I think if you swapped Fred for Fabinho our game plan would of secured the 3pts. Fred had chances to hit the target and missed both times, also lots possession in important phases.

Its perhaps more individual quality or lack thereof letting us down.

 

[United Hobbit]

Was there, on the long coach trip back now!

First half was a lot better, they barely got a sniff, Lindelof needs to play to the whistle he just stopped thank goodness for VAR! Funny how Rashford gets goals when he gets into the box, good assist by James

2nd half we just backed off, lot of the players looked gassed Rashford and James in particular, was shouting for Ole to make subs which he didn't until too late. Makes me wonder if Martial was fully fit.

Haven't seen the replays of the goal being disallowed

Thought they were getting a lucky penalty at the end!

The atmosphere in the stadium was fantastic you could barely hear their fans

 

[Eric7C]

How would you have set up today?

I didn't have a problem with the set up. I had a problem with the change in mentality in the second half. The same set of players were pressing as a team and playing with intent, albeit not always successfully, in the first half. But in the second, Rashford and James began their usual chasing after lost causes and the team just sat back and did not even try to exploit the spaces that their full-backs were offering. Down to Ole's usual negative tactics.

 

[Strelok]

Clueless fans who doesn't understand football:

"We are clueless in the 2nd half "

Fans who understands football:

"A winning team chasing a goal to level the score will always step it up in the 2nd half".

Can't agree more

 

[Fosu-Mens]

OGS and the coaching team had the right approach: Sit deep and counter. Especially against a team like Liverpool whose main weakness is attacking against a deep sitting team.

Unfortunately, when we play against weaker teams, we are the ones attacking against a deep sitting defence. And we are the ones struggling.

 

[MisterLupus]

Clueless fans who doesn't understand football:

"We are clueless in the 2nd half "

Fans who understands football:

"A winning team chasing a goal to level the score will always step it up in the 2nd half".

Yes thank you - finally some sense. We didn't change tactics to sitting back we were still trying to get forward - until the sixtieth minute it was clear we were chasing a second goal and throughout the entire period we always looked dangerous whenever we got close to their box. Liverpool just upped their game is all - and to be honest we looked both solid and optimistic in our play considering the pressure we endured. The result was fair - but it could just as easily have been a win. It was a good game from both sides.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Were 2 points or something above the relegation zone playing the league leaders going for a record series of wins. So yes, this warrants celebrating tbh.

Feck me, this is what cringes my nerves, we are not a freaking relegation zone team. Ole has us playing like that but that doesn’t mean our expectations should lower to that standard.

This is dangerous it seems some here are buying the we have a relegation team squad shit. Soon we’ll he celebrating if we manage to end up on mid table.

 

[ivaldo]

Lucky draw, even though they scored late?

And created feck all.

 

[Irwin99]

It really isn't a foul. Touching a player doesn't constitute a foul. The contact isn't nearly significant enough to effect him, other than for him to decide to dive because he had already lost possession of the ball.

I disagree, it wasn't just a touch, it looked a fairly painful whack below the knee. The only argument I think you could make is that his touch was poor and he was already getting robbed of the ball by McTominay but I would have been really angry if that had been United on the receiving end of that. I thought the ref gave us quite a lot today which is a change from usual.

 

[AneRu]

We looked good value for the 3pts. Liverpool really looked out of ideas, few sniffs here but their back four had the ball more than any other player.

Goal was down the other end and not seen the replay, who was at fault?

Young and Rojo.

 

[croadyman]

Gutted we couldn't hold on for the win after leading for so long, unfortunately when you create so little in the game then any defensive mistakes are going to be heavily punished.

We have made the same mistake against Wolves, Southampton, Arsenal and now Liverpool which is so damn frustrating. Maybe if Tuanzebe had been there and not picked up an injury in the warm up we hold on for the three points.

 

[Devil may care]

I's hard to know how to feel, the energy and effort was there and the switch to 3-5-2 worked well, we still didn't create a lot but it was an improvement in the general play with all the players looking comfortable in the system.
It seems crazy but the draw feels like a loss as we retreated in the last 20 minutes or so and looked nervy, I think we badly needed the 3 points to boost the confidence.

I don't think we'll really know if anything has really changed until after the next two games, have we turned a corner? Or did we basically do what small teams do and lift their game when the top sides come to town, especially for a derby?

 

[meamth]

Yes thank you - finally some sense. We didn't change tactics to sitting back we were still trying to get forward - until the sixtieth minute it was clear we were chasing a second goal and throughout the entire period we looked dangerous when we managed to get forward. Liverpool just upped their game is all - and to be honest we looked both solid and optimistic in our play considering the pressure we endured. The result was fair - but it could just as easily have been a win.

I've learned the logic of caf ages ago.

Football is evolving, good teams will always put a shift in when losing.

There is no way we can control the 2nd half, Liverpool is throwing men forward.

 

[Eric7C]

Clueless fans who doesn't understand football:

"We are clueless in the 2nd half "

Fans who understands football:

"A winning team chasing a goal to level the score will always step it up in the 2nd half".

Deluded.

Watch us break down teams in the coming weeks with our sole attacking tactic - waiting for the other team to offer us spaces.

 

[ivaldo]

I disagree, it wasn't just a touch, it looked a fairly painful whack below the knee. The only argument I think you could make is that his touch was poor and he was already getting robbed of the ball by McTominay but I would have been really angry if that had been United on the receiving end of that. I thought the ref gave us quite a lot today which is a change from usual.

I mean, you're entitled to your opinion and all, but I think you need to watch the replay again, because you're seeing someone entirely different to what happened.

 

[NK86]

Just move on, if you can't take any satisfaction from today in the context of our season, maybe football isn't for you.

Football is absolutely fine for me, thanks for your honesty crap opinion on that matter though.

As for satisfaction, the only satisfaction is that Pool didn't win the game. If that is enough for you, then perhaps you have let your expectations from this great club come down tremendously.

 

[ivaldo]

Deluded.

Watch us break down teams in the coming weeks with our sole attacking tactic - waiting for the other team to offer us spaces.

Just of clarify, you're comparing our attack with Liverpool's, right?

 

[Dec9003]

Deluded.

Watch us break down teams in the coming weeks with our sole attacking tactic - waiting for the other team to offer us spaces.

We could lose the next few matches but it doesn't mean that we didn't get it right tactically today.
Calling someone deluded and then coming out with that was a bit daft.

 

[Zlatan 7]

Sending out James and Rashford to press like headless chickens - when the rest of the team is backing off - is exactly the problem. It's not called a tactical plan. How many times did their back line experience any real pressure in the game? It IS amateur level tactics.

Did you not see how many times Liverpool kicked it into touch or to nowhere when under pressure?

I just disagree with you

 

[dev1l]

I didn't have a problem with the set up. I had a problem with the change in mentality in the second half. The same set of players were pressing as a team and playing with intent, albeit not always successfully, in the first half. But in the second, Rashford and James began their usual chasing after lost causes and the team just sat back and did not even try to exploit the spaces that their full-backs were offering. Down to Ole's usual negative tactics.

You are conveniently not mentioning that there was another team in the ground. A team who has won all of its last games, chasing a record.
That team improved in 2 nd half too.

 

[Eric7C]

Just of clarify, you're comparing our attack with Liverpool's, right?

No. Learn to read.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Clueless fans who doesn't understand football:

"We are clueless in the 2nd half "

Fans who understands football:

"A winning team chasing a goal to level the score will always step it up in the 2nd half".

I dare you to find a top team statistic that haves 25% possession at home after going up in the scoreline.

You make it sound as if what we saw was a normal game development. He sat back like scared boys, one thing is to set up to counterattack like we did on the first half and another thing is to shit your pants and park the bus like we did on second half.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

So, so unlucky. Pool deserved nothing

 

[GaryLifo]

Decent result but disappointing in the end. I don't understand why we're incapable of playing for 90 minutes.

Well, it's not that hard to figure out is it?

Our best fit eleven started out of what is a very thin squad. We didn't really have much on the bench to bring on to freshen it up.

Liverpool brought on 150 plus million worth of midfielders, all internationals and this swung the momentum for them.

We had an unfit Martial and a 19 year old CM who hasn't started a premier league match for us.

If you look at it that way, without resorting to "well Ole chose to not buy midfielders", it's not that surprising we fade in matches.

 

[Fosu-Mens]

I's hard to know how to feel, the energy and effort was there and the switch to 3-5-2 worked well, we still didn't create a lot but it was an improvement in the general play with all the players looking comfortable in the system.
It seems crazy but the draw feels like a loss as we retreated in the last 20 minutes or so and looked nervy, I think we badly needed the 3 points to boost the confidence.

I don't think we'll really know if anything has really changed until after the next two games, have we turned a corner? Or did we basically do what small teams do and lift their game when the top sides come to town, especially for a derby?

We played a style of football that suited our players. A style of football that we will not be able to play against "weaker" teams. Mourinho-esque performance and tactical approach to the game. And the most likely way for us to have gotten away with anything.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

19:01
Keane: Give United credit
Roy Keane thinks United should be satisfied with the draw after losing composure in the second half.

He said:

“I think both managers will be satisfied with the draw. The pressure was building from Liverpool, and obviously their lads are talking quite critically about themselves, but I feel you have to give United a bit of credit today.



“They got the first goal and then were allowed to sit in but they got a little bit sloppy. United lacked a little bit of composure.



“With Liverpool, if you’re talking about winning titles, you’re talking about collecting points when you play badly, and that’s exactly what they did.”

 

[DomesticTadpole]

19:08
Klopp's verdict on VAR decisions
Surprise, surprise, Jurgen Klopp thinks Liverpool were wronged by both major VAR calls today.

He told BBC Sport:

“The first goal I think everyone can agree it was a foul but with VAR it is not a clear foul. That is the situation. We didn’t lose but it was an obvious foul.



“There was clear contact and Divock Origi goes down. They carried on and counter-attacked. Yes, there is contact, I’m sure they said that but it is not a ‘clear foul?’ That doesn’t work. That’s just not how it should be.”

“Then we got a disallowed goal. I didn’t see it back but it was probably handball but everything just seemed to go against us.



We changed a little bit our formation and had these moments. Then we scored the goal and was in charge of the game. The stadium was silent and people probably thought Liverpool would score but we take the point and move on.”

19:01

 

[Eric7C]

I dare you to find a top team statistic that haves 25% possession at home after going up in the scoreline.

You make it sound as if what we saw was a normal game development. He sat back like scared boys, one thing is to set up to counterattack like we did on the first half and another thing is to shit your pants and park the bus like we did on second half.

The Ole fanboys are back in force after a lucky draw at Old fecking Trafford.

 

[ivaldo]

No. Learn to read.

Or, you know, you could explain what you've written, and actually contribute to discussion.

 

[Bocca9978]

Lucky draw .We should be grateful to the ref for allowing our goal to stand.

feck off is all I can think of.