Ed Woodward 2019 - Until all Arctic ice melts edition

Fosu-Mens

Full Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2016
Messages
4,101
Location
Fred | 2019/20 Performances
He is not defending himself. The information from the club that has been published now is an objective description about the recruitment system.
Its far overdue. There is a lot of good posters on here who has tried to describe just whats in the Mail-article and been shot down as Glazer-shills.
Woodward himself has also shot himself in the foot by in principle not doing any interviews except the investor briefings since he turned CEO. Even if Gill did not either tbf.
Its made it easy to villify him for ABU-media.
With todays media coverage he needs to speak out more often so that conspiracy theories like here on the Caf dont spiral out of control. Its a good thing that the club releases/leaks real factual information. And it means more information for us fans. Again: good thing.
Even if I am sure it kills a lot of posters inside here who had convinced themselves that the reality was different.
So we are finally getting some transparency? Making it possible to have a discussion based on an assumed equal understanding of the happenings inside the club?
Unless one thinks that Woodward is lying under oath.
 

Fluctuation0161

Full Member
Joined
Aug 8, 2016
Messages
8,156
Location
Manchester
Define "enough" - I just quoted the numbers he spent on managers players. What else is he supposed to do ? Apart from the state owned clubs, how many has actually spent that much ?

It's not his mistake managers chose to spend it on wrong players or they couldn't make it here. I can give 3 other mistakes of Ed but "not supporting" is not one of them.
Managers didn't choose to spend on 'wrong' players! The managers needed very different types of players. No director of football would ever invest heavily for players for for LVG then bring in Jose who has totally different attribute requirements.

If Woodward is insistent on controlling the footballing side of the club, which he is evidently clueless about, then he must take responsibility for the outcomes. He chose to lurch from possession based style of play to anti possession(counter attack) style of play. This was after investing hundreds of millions in possession based players for LVG.

So, anti possession Jose comes in and needs to start the rebuild AGAIN from scratch. So we needed to invest the money we spent under Jose PLUS replace the possesion players we bough under LVG. Jose never got this additional investment and Woodward could not sell the deadwood.

As discussed, Jose needed counter attacking giants not possession based midgets like LVG.

This is why its justified to say the managers were not backed 'enough'. Because of the ridiculous lack of planning and mistakes from Woodward.

He needed to choose either possession based or counter attacking style of play. Then hire managers which fit with that style. So there is a progression. Not starting from scratch every time. Please re read my house building analogy in a previous post to you. It really is quite simple.

It has become evident that Woodward is a power hungry, arrogant narcissist who will not hire footballing experts to decide the footballing strategy of the club. He genuinely thinks he knows best.
 

Scholsey2004

Full Member
Joined
May 12, 2016
Messages
3,600
Laughable that there are still people on here defending Ed Woodward despite seeing him lead the club from League champions to a perennial Europa League side. The guys dead wood and needs cutting loose. Hopefully the Glazers will sell up and go ruin someone else's club as well.
 

saivet

Full Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2013
Messages
25,111

What is that, an interview? He is coming out in force to defend his reign at the club. I bet he talked recently far more than the 6 last years combined.
Anyone know what he actually said then?
 

MadDogg

Full Member
Joined
Apr 24, 2002
Messages
15,810
Location
Manchester Utd never lose, just run out of time
Managers didn't choose to spend on 'wrong' players! The managers needed very different types of players. No director of football would ever invest heavily for players for for LVG then bring in Jose who has totally different attribute requirements.

If Woodward is insistent on controlling the footballing side of the club, which he is evidently clueless about, then he must take responsibility for the outcomes. He chose to lurch from possession based style of play to anti possession(counter attack) style of play. This was after investing hundreds of millions in possession based players for LVG.

So, anti possession Jose comes in and needs to start the rebuild AGAIN from scratch. So we needed to invest the money we spent under Jose PLUS replace the possesion players we bough under LVG. Jose never got this additional investment and Woodward could not sell the deadwood.

As discussed, Jose needed counter attacking giants not possession based midgets like LVG.

This is why its justified to say the managers were not backed 'enough'. Because of the ridiculous lack of planning and mistakes from Woodward.

He needed to choose either possession based or counter attacking style of play. Then hire managers which fit with that style. So there is a progression. Not starting from scratch every time. Please re read my house building analogy in a previous post to you. It really is quite simple.

It has become evident that Woodward is a power hungry, arrogant narcissist who will not hire footballing experts to decide the footballing strategy of the club. He genuinely thinks he knows best.
While you are largely right, the majority of players were failures even under the manager that bought them. Players that were good enough to be successes would then generally be able to provide more to the next manager even if it wasn't fully playing to their strengths. So it can definitely be said that the managers bought the 'wrong' players.
 

pocco

loco
Joined
Mar 17, 2010
Messages
22,095
Location
Keep a clean shit tomorrow, United is my final bus
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50117975

Not sure I would like to search for the full interview after that.
First question: Are you the right man for the job?

Ed: Yes I am.

:lol: Ok, if you say so yourself!

I was wondering what I'd missed when i saw the Glazer/Woodward stooges on here declaring that the truth had come to light and Woodward is fantastic.
 

oz insomniac

Full Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2016
Messages
412
Each time I enter the blog, it seems as though Woodward has multiple accounts under other names as burner accounts. Johan and Keefy will no doubt deny it, but their mantra that Ed has done a wonderful job and been let down by all around him, hello he appointed them all and there as doubts that the latest leaks assuring all that he has no say in transfers is nothing but nonsense.
 

Adisa

likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Messages
50,311
Location
Birmingham
Don't really give a shit about what he says. The proof is in the pudding. We have gone from title challengers to a team struggling for a top seven finish under him. We have finished out of the top four 4/6 times. Feck him off.
 

Tincanalley

Turns player names into a crappy conversation
Joined
Apr 12, 2011
Messages
10,087
Location
Ireland
Each time I enter the blog, it seems as though Woodward has multiple accounts under other names as burner accounts. Johan and Keefy will no doubt deny it, but their mantra that Ed has done a wonderful job and been let down by all around him, hello he appointed them all and there as doubts that the latest leaks assuring all that he has no say in transfers is nothing but nonsense.
Any chance of a copywriting gig? I could do
*Ed is good looking
*Ed knows about soccer football
*Ed has friends
*Ed knows more than (Guardiola/Klopp/Ferguson/Mourhino/Fill in the manager of your choice)
*Ed loves Manchelster United FC
*Ed knows that FC stands for Football Club

There's loads more where that came from. And i'm cheap as feck. Eighty and a half million in consultancy and I am all yours Eddie baby.
 

SirAF

Ageist
Joined
Sep 28, 2003
Messages
37,563
Location
First question: Are you the right man for the job?

Ed: Yes I am.

:lol: Ok, if you say so yourself!

I was wondering what I'd missed when i saw the Glazer/Woodward stooges on here declaring that the truth had come to light and Woodward is fantastic.
:lol:
 

Johan07

Full Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2017
Messages
1,936
Each time I enter the blog, it seems as though Woodward has multiple accounts under other names as burner accounts. Johan and Keefy will no doubt deny it, but their mantra that Ed has done a wonderful job and been let down by all around him, hello he appointed them all and there as doubts that the latest leaks assuring all that he has no say in transfers is nothing but nonsense.
I actually laugh everytime I read something this stupid and that the poster either think he is funny or that it would get to whomever.
There a couple of stupid namecallings on here, some are not so nice, but this one is quite funny in its simple idiocy.
I take it as a compliment that certain posters cant argue their opinions and then when they choose to try to bash someone instead because of it; they choose to not even try to be creative and at least a bit intelligent when doing so.
Its hilarious. Please dont stop.
 

Andy_Cole

Full Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2009
Messages
7,856
Location
Manchester
Speaking to an ITK - apparently in 2013 we had Ronaldo tied up but Woodward decided to reduce the offer by £5m, causing it to break down.

Ronaldo in 2013 really would’ve stopped our demise. What could have been if it wasn’t for the cretin Woodward.
 

Pexbo

Winner of the 'I'm not reading that' medal.
Joined
Jun 2, 2009
Messages
68,413
Location
Brizzle
Supports
Big Days
Speaking to an ITK - apparently in 2013 we had Ronaldo tied up but Woodward decided to reduce the offer by £5m, causing it to break down.

Ronaldo in 2013 really would’ve stopped our demise. What could have been if it wasn’t for the cretin Woodward.
:lol:
 

golden_blunder

Site admin. Manchester United fan
Staff
Joined
Jun 1, 2000
Messages
119,444
Location
Dublin, Ireland
Speaking to an ITK - apparently in 2013 we had Ronaldo tied up but Woodward decided to reduce the offer by £5m, causing it to break down.

Ronaldo in 2013 really would’ve stopped our demise. What could have been if it wasn’t for the cretin Woodward.
What is this shit?
 

golden_blunder

Site admin. Manchester United fan
Staff
Joined
Jun 1, 2000
Messages
119,444
Location
Dublin, Ireland
How so? He was trying to play games with Madrid and the deal went under?
He’d only been there coming on 5 years, at his dream club. It was Moyes incoming as united manager and Ed’s first season as top dog. A summer where we signed fellaini for more than his release clause was. As we have seen since Ed overpays if anything. I just don’t see the logic in your ITK story
 

Pexbo

Winner of the 'I'm not reading that' medal.
Joined
Jun 2, 2009
Messages
68,413
Location
Brizzle
Supports
Big Days
Don’t shoot the messenger!
The messenger had a daft conclusion with zero critical thinking.

Galactico loving Woody who had a reputation spunking stupid money on commercially successful players scuppered a deal for the most high profile name in the sport over a poxy £5m.
 

SirAF

Ageist
Joined
Sep 28, 2003
Messages
37,563
Location
Speaking to an ITK - apparently in 2013 we had Ronaldo tied up but Woodward decided to reduce the offer by £5m, causing it to break down.

Ronaldo in 2013 really would’ve stopped our demise. What could have been if it wasn’t for the cretin Woodward.
:lol:
 

Judas

Open to offers
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
35,964
Location
Where the grass is greener.
I do remember the media being very heavy on Ronaldo to us in 2013, with plenty of the ITK who at that time had a great reputation saying he was coming back. Even Manchester based celebs were chiming in on it. Who knows.

That's not me saying I believe we lost out on him because of 5mil though, that sounds like utter shite.
 

Compton22

Knows that he knows nothing.
Joined
Jul 27, 2014
Messages
3,382
As if Ed Woodward tried to pass off his quote as being about affecting sponsorship deals :lol: Clearly it does because Chevrolet are not interested in renewing their deal with us due to our performances on the pitch. For a supposed former banker, he really doesn't have a grasp on long term cost/benefit analysis.
 

Rhyme Animal

Thinks Di Zerbi is better than Pep.
Joined
Sep 3, 2015
Messages
11,193
Location
Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
It's a joke...

The fanbase is way, way WAAAAYY too soft for the good of the club.

This guy should be fecking long gone by now from his current role.

feckin' fluff piece 'interviews' - it's bullshit.
 

Judge Red

Don't Call Me Douglas
Joined
Feb 11, 2006
Messages
5,993
When we sign a player, we don't just go through the process and that's it. There's a huge amount of due diligence around the character of the player.
Presumably that wasn’t the case when Sanchez was signed. An ageing player who doesn’t really get on with team mates and wasn’t bothered whether he played for us or City. That doesn’t take much due diligence. City did theirs.

Anyway, Ed’s argument appears to be that it wouldn’t make any difference if he was sacked because he doesn’t do much anyway.
 

devilish

Juventus fan who used to support United
Joined
Sep 5, 2002
Messages
61,525
"We are financially strong. We are self-sustaining. We don't have an umbilical cord that we are concerned about. There's negativity about us doing sponsorship deals but they allow us to do things in the transfer market which other clubs struggle to do."

What exactly? Maybe spend an entire summer to sign 3 players one of which from the Championship? We're the only top club in the world that allow the team to start with virtually no CM, no RW and no striker cover. That's something Bayern, Real, Barcelona and Juventus would struggle to do as their fans would rip the board a new one.
 

OverratedOpinion

Full Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2017
Messages
6,205
Honestly, we don't give a feck about "communication". No Utd fan would care if you went mute, we care about having a decent team and looking forward to watching matches.

So many of his comments read as if we have had a difficult 6 years but he's fixed it now. We are teetering just above the relegation spots.
 

Adisa

likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Messages
50,311
Location
Birmingham
"I don't think some of the progress we're making is accurately reported". If I speak...
 
Last edited:

bond19821982

Last Man Standing champion 2019/20
Joined
Oct 26, 2008
Messages
10,366
Location
Nnc
Decent interview, but hey people will ignore the facts and still chose to blame him for our failures.
 

UnitedSofa

You'll Never Walk Away
Joined
Jul 12, 2013
Messages
6,725
Some of you so called United fans in here are laughable.

Ed has given a very open interview here and a lot of you are claiming that its press BS and positively spun PR, he can do no right.
 

bucky

Full Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2011
Messages
9,572
Decent interview, but hey people will ignore the facts and still chose to blame him for our failures.
He definitely deserved to be blamed. He choose van Gaal, Mourinho and Ole. He could have made improvements to our recruitment far earlier. It was a problem when Ferguson was still in charge and it still is.
 

Adisa

likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Messages
50,311
Location
Birmingham
Decent interview, but hey people will ignore the facts and still chose to blame him for our failures.
I used to be one of his staunchest defenders on here.
He is ultimately responsible. We have spent nearly a billion pounds under him in 6 years and look at the team we put out yesterday.
 

2 man midfield

Last Man Standing finalist 2021/22
Joined
Sep 4, 2012
Messages
45,669
Location
?
Some of you so called United fans in here are laughable.

Ed has given a very open interview here and a lot of you are claiming that its press BS and positively spun PR, he can do no right.
Not sure why else you think he’d agree to an interview?
 

edcunited1878

Full Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2014
Messages
8,935
Location
San Diego, CA
As if Ed Woodward tried to pass off his quote as being about affecting sponsorship deals :lol: Clearly it does because Chevrolet are not interested in renewing their deal with us due to our performances on the pitch. For a supposed former banker, he really doesn't have a grasp on long term cost/benefit analysis.
That's a lie and extremely over the top. How many primary shirt sponsors renew once their deal terms are over? Not as much as you think. And from the sponsor's perspective, performance on the pitch is never everything, it's what you want to achieve from your partnership. United have a specialized marketing metric system and measurement for their partners, which is why they have such commercial success even if they aren't winning the league.