Solskjær sack watch | 2019/20 edition

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I do not think he will be fired this season simply because if he is then the fans will not take their anger out on Ole but it will be the board and they will have nowhere to hide.
Ed has publicly backed Ole and said the club is going in the right direction so he would lose all credibility if he went against that.
 

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The writings on the wall for Ole as well.

Just because his mates in the media are defending his "plan" doesn't mean he shouldn't be scrutinised like our previous managers post Fergie.

Your comment screams of blind optimism. That's fine but nothing suggests we will see any improvement. We've gone backwards over the past 10 months.

Who are the people that are under the belief this is are moving in the right direction? Gary Neville and 47% of supporters on here?
I’m not defending Ole, I’m just stating the situation as I see it. The writing is on the wall amongst the fans, NOT the club. We knew since September that Jose was toast, the club and Jose were sniping each other in the media for months, it was only a matter of time. Everyone knew it. Contrast to Ole, it’s nothing like that. Nobody at the club will be happy with the results, but you don’t get the impression he’s anywhere near the door. It really feels like he’s going to get a lot more time, unless we go and lose the next four games or whatever and end up in the relegation zone.
 

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I’m not defending Ole, I’m just stating the situation as I see it. The writing is on the wall amongst the fans, NOT the club. We knew since September that Jose was toast, the club and Jose were sniping each other in the media for months, it was only a matter of time. Everyone knew it. Contrast to Ole, it’s nothing like that. Nobody at the club will be happy with the results, but you don’t get the impression he’s anywhere near the door. It really feels like he’s going to get a lot more time, unless we go and lose the next four games or whatever and end up in the relegation zone.
Apologies. I thought you were saying no one was calling for his head.

Unfortunately you are right about the board, at least from the publics perspective. I get the impression they are so scared of their public image in firing a club legend they'll let him drag us into a relegation battle and hope the fans turn on him.

The lack of coherent planning and vision from a board level is frankly frightening.
 

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I’ve been for giving him more time but only if we see some progress and get results. I don’t care if we’re mid table but mid table to just above relegation is grounds for moving on. I just hope who ever the next manager is brings in a complete new coaching staff of their choosing and no ex United players are asked to participate unless they have ample experience.

My guess is that we get some points from now until January where the board don’t back Ole and our season continues to tank with him being sacked sometime in February or March.
 

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I said this when he was hired

It's not a cheap gamble. They'll find it really hard to sack him if he struggles big time because of the fan response and bad PR it would generate.

Our fans over the last few years have shown they'll do anything to absolve the manager of the blame. Whether that's Moyes, LVG or even a thundercnut like Mourinho. Now imagine that but with the whole club legend factor.
Said this when he was hired. He's not getting sacked anytime soon
 

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If we lose the next two, I think he'll be gone. Or when Spurs sack Poch, whichever comes first.
 

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We've gone backwards, reckon if results don't improve he'll be gone by around late December.
 

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Pressure will be on when we don’t get the win tomorrow. Can also guarantee that will happen.
 

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Pressure will be on when we don’t get the win tomorrow. Can also guarantee that will happen.
You do know Norwich play an open attacking game. I expect us to bag 3 points with a 0-1 tomorrow.
 

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You do know Norwich play an open attacking game. I expect us to bag 3 points with a 0-1 tomorrow.
That's so so embarrassing: we have a chance tomorrow because newly promoted side plays good football, so when we sit back and defend like , ironically, a newly promoted side, we can counter and maybe score more than one goal.
 

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He won't be sacked this season unless we're in an actual relegation battle. Right now it's too comfortable for the club to go with the 'he needs time, we're going to be patient' crap.

That's the narrative right now and if they let it and him go, they have nothing, as I don't think they have a clue what to do after Solskjaer.
 

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Putting things into context, I only see the team progressing up the table and not down. This threat of relegation is greatly exaggerated. No matter how bad it goes they will win enough to stay in the mid table places. But this is United and we are supposed to be in the top 4 places. Which will be a difficult job considering the depleted squad which already lacked enough quality. But as I said, I only see the team going up with injured players starting to come back and unless we have another string of bad lucks where so many players get injured again. We will be in and around the top 6 places by December. Ole isn’t going anywhere now, he has a project, some may not see it now, but even his signings have all proved to be good and that’s one very huge change compared to our previous managers. If we have more signings from him and in keeping with his so far 100% record with signings, I feel there is something good ahead.
Putting things into context. In May people said “give him one window and then judge him” now those very people, after he fecked up that window, are saying “give him 3-6 windows and then judge him”
 

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I'm not anti Scottish, I just wanted Moyes out.
Putting things into context, I only see the team progressing up the table and not down. This threat of relegation is greatly exaggerated. No matter how bad it goes they will win enough to stay in the mid table places. But this is United and we are supposed to be in the top 4 places. Which will be a difficult job considering the depleted squad which already lacked enough quality. But as I said, I only see the team going up with injured players starting to come back and unless we have another string of bad lucks where so many players get injured again. We will be in and around the top 6 places by December. Ole isn’t going anywhere now, he has a project, some may not see it now, but even his signings have all proved to be good and that’s one very huge change compared to our previous managers. If we have more signings from him and in keeping with his so far 100% record with signings, I feel there is something good ahead.
You know what I keep on reading this over and over again.. Its not like his tremendous scouting abilities bought a rare gem right back from the Norwegian league that no one knew about, or he discovered an amazing center back from Italy or something. He broke the world record for Harry maguire that everybody including my dog knew about and AWB who was the most talked about right back in England last year.Both players from the premier league. How wrong could they go? James is on Giggs. If anything Oles transfer policy is shite, because he blew all his transfer money on defenders, didnt add a midfielder yet let 2 midfielders and a striker go without replacing them
 

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You know what I keep on reading this over and over again.. Its not like his tremendous scouting abilities bought a rare gem right back from the Norwegian league that no one knew about, or he discovered an amazing center back from Italy or something. He broke the world record for Harry maguire that everybody including my dog knew about and AWB who was the most talked about right back in England last year.Both players from the premier league. How wrong could they go? James is on Giggs. If anything Oles transfer policy is shite, because he blew all his transfer money on defenders, didnt add a midfielder yet let 2 midfielders and a striker go without replacing them
If transfers sounds so simple how have we spent 900m last few years and still have a shit squad?
 

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He said similar things on Van Gaal one week before he sacked him
That was after nearly two seasons in which LVG spent a fortune on players which did not work out and sold Zaha, Evans and Chica to mention a few and he brought in Rojo,Depay,Di Maria Schneiderlin and Bastien which are all I can think of at the moment who were all disasters.
Ed has Ole there because he will not rock the boat and will say nothing controversial and all the fans can see we are short on quality and Ole cannot be blamed for that whereas LVG was given a kings ransom to spend and not only did he royally stuff it up he was putting fans to sleep with his style of football.
Stevie Wonder could see LVG was a dead man walking long before Ed shafted him.
 

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If transfers sounds so simple how have we spent 900m last few years and still have a shit squad?
How is that in any way relevant to the response he made? What did he say that was wrong?

Solskjaer has made 3 whole signings so far. It's also a short sample size. Mkhitaryan, Bailly, Kagawa, Lukaku etc. were regarded as successes too once upon a time. Let's cool it on the whole success stories just yet eh?

The jury is well & truly out on his squad planning so far though.

Let's not forget he has been here since last December. He was the one who after time to assess, was happy with his squad at the start of the season.

He was all too happy to see Lukaku, Fellaini, Sanchez & Smalling leave. He declared his players were ready.

He wasn't forced to overpay for Maguire was he? He could have used the funds to buy a midfielder or forward instead. I would question whether this opportunity cost along with losing Smalling was smart planning. The improvement so far over Smalling is negligible at best.
 

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That's so so embarrassing: we have a chance tomorrow because newly promoted side plays good football, so when we sit back and defend like , ironically, a newly promoted side, we can counter and maybe score more than one goal.
Shows how far we have fallen, when we're hoping for newly-promoted Norwich to attack us so we can turtle them and nick a jammy 1-0.

Then i look at the table, see we're 15th with Ole at the wheel & realise that it's his mentality just rubbing off. (Look at his pre-match comments for goodness sake).

It's a shameful mentality is what it is. I really can't wait until this nightmare is over, so we can inject some much needed standards back into the club.
 

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We could be up to 7th with a win that's if Spurs and Wolves don't win. But even if we are we'll still be closer to the bottom 3 than the top 4.
 

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We could be up to 7th with a win that's if Spurs and Wolves don't win. But even if we are we'll still be closer to the bottom 3 than the top 4.
Doesn't matter really. We just need to avoid relegation this season.
 

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Putting things into context, I only see the team progressing up the table and not down. This threat of relegation is greatly exaggerated. No matter how bad it goes they will win enough to stay in the mid table places. But this is United and we are supposed to be in the top 4 places. Which will be a difficult job considering the depleted squad which already lacked enough quality. But as I said, I only see the team going up with injured players starting to come back and unless we have another string of bad lucks where so many players get injured again. We will be in and around the top 6 places by December. Ole isn’t going anywhere now, he has a project, some may not see it now, but even his signings have all proved to be good and that’s one very huge change compared to our previous managers. If we have more signings from him and in keeping with his so far 100% record with signings, I feel there is something good ahead.
No shit sherlock. We're 15th... so yeah. Any way to go is up
 

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Crikey, this is Man Utd and all we are hoping for is to avoid relegation.
Exactly! This is what we have fallen to.

And tbh, "this is man utd" stuff should just be thrown out of window. This shite about doing things the "right" way or "utd way" is just holding the club back IMO.
 

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Putting things into context, I only see the team progressing up the table and not down. This threat of relegation is greatly exaggerated. No matter how bad it goes they will win enough to stay in the mid table places. But this is United and we are supposed to be in the top 4 places. Which will be a difficult job considering the depleted squad which already lacked enough quality. But as I said, I only see the team going up with injured players starting to come back and unless we have another string of bad lucks where so many players get injured again. We will be in and around the top 6 places by December. Ole isn’t going anywhere now, he has a project, some may not see it now, but even his signings have all proved to be good and that’s one very huge change compared to our previous managers. If we have more signings from him and in keeping with his so far 100% record with signings, I feel there is something good ahead.
Putting things into context, most people doubting Ole and the current situation don't only cry about the table's position either. It's about the lack of gameplay, coaching and approach to games...that we are seeing. People didn't lose their mind after we failed to win against Wolverhampton and Arsenal (Two teams who have been underwhelming this season, to be honest) because we dominated the game. It's when we got outplayed against the likes of West Ham or Newcastle that people truly questioned Ole's capability as the manager.

You can point to bad luck or injuries but it's not like others in the League don't have injuries also. Chelsea with Lampard at the helm for the very first season (Mind you, Ole got the time from last December til now to assess the squad already while Lampard has literally just started fresh this season) are already playing with more cohesion and fire, with young players also to boot. Compare the two teams and people would think Manchester United is the team that got a transfer ban and lost their main star player, not Chelsea. This is not about bad luck and questions about the manager are rightly asked at this point. You cannot condemn them as being over-exaggerated. Don't get me started on Leicester City who despite got their star players taken away by other big teams (Mahrez, Kante, Maguire...) still establish themselves as a solid team in the Premier League. And Brendan Rodgers didn't require 3 years or 4 transfer windows just to have his team play with some cohesion and direction.

With all that said, this match with Norwich will tell us a lot of things. Ole kept saying about the forwards being depleted and Martial coming back would elevate things. Now Martial is back and that excuse is no longer valid. Norwich is also a team that plays opened, expansive football and United would not have their usual weakness against teams parking bus. The team also got a little lift in moral (Heroics against Liverpool and first away in in mid-week after many months). If we cannot get the win at Norwich, it would speak fairly and harshly against Ole's credibility. A win here would also prove we really do got a plan going ahead, not just being mere game-raising teams against other top-6 clubs.
 
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He won't be sacked this season unless we're in an actual relegation battle. Right now it's too comfortable for the club to go with the 'he needs time, we're going to be patient' crap.

That's the narrative right now and if they let it and him go, they have nothing, as I don't think they have a clue what to do after Solskjaer.
What we actually need is changing manager every 3 months. It seems like the players only respond well in those time frame.
 

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Haha! What a surpise you'd say something like that.
I'm struggling to accept a reality in which he's not sacked after Norwich should he lose tomorrow.

I know that he probably won't be though, because it's too logical.



Are you just googling the results?
How far have we fallen?

Nearly beating a team? Jesus how pathetic.

I know Ole is a legend but this constant dropping of standards by some is ludicrous.
I simply don't understand you people, do you think we have a squad of world class players or something? Why can't you understand that Solskjaer has only just started a desperately needed squad rebuild (after 6 years of directionless mismanagement) and will probably need 4/5 transfer windows before it is complete.

Could another manager do better with our squad with it's current injuries? Possibly but it isn't certain.

My view on supporting Ole has nothing to do with dropping standards, far from it, it's about restoring standards that have been lacking for many years. That will take time and patience.