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AneRu

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People demand every youngster to be Mbappe/Sancho levels and immediately dominate games. They don't have any patience and remember the bad games over the good ones. Every mistake is also pounced on (the entire team not just our youngsters) while anything good is relatively ignored. It's toxic. Yet it's always been this way, I can think of so many young players that came through at the club and got insulted and discarded after a bad game or two.

I'm perhaps guilty myself of hyping our young players up but I always stress that it's potential. We have no idea how these young players will react to the pressure and intensity of first team football. Some players are simply not cut out for it, while others (who might not have the same talent as their peers) thrive on it. But there is no way you can assess a player after just 90 minutes of football, you need to give them at least 3 clear opportunities if only to be able to rectify their mistakes.

As for Garner, the lad has undeniable talent and despite making some errors yesterday he showed his ability at times. He'll get more opportunities and shouldn't be going on loan unless we buy in January (which I hope we do) at that point he can probably go on loan.
I think people easily forget that in order for young players to succeed they need investment in time and faith. It's a tricky balancing act between not throwing away too many matches and investing the needed time for them to get to grips with the pace and standard of first team football.

For me, the decision is made easier by the fact that we are screwed either way unless the kids become so bad that the confidence can be damaged. Let's face it, we are going to struggle and drop points if we rely on Mata, Lingard, Matic and Rojo so we are better off building up our youngsters than wasting minutes on players that aren't going to improve. The upside is huge if, say, Greenwood makes it or Garner does as it would save millions in fees.
 

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Well it's clear that one was more ready, or in a more forgiving position, to be able to play to a decent capacity in an important game.
Or maybe one just had a better game than the other. Young players can be inconsistent.

Garner is more advanced in his development than Williams. He was training with the seniors first and moved up to the u23s well before Williams.
 

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Or maybe one just had a better game than the other. Young players can be inconsistent.

Garner is more advanced in his development than Williams. He was training with the seniors first and moved up to the u23s well before Williams.
He didn't seem ready, whether it was nerves or otherwise. That's fine because it's to be expected, but it should be managed better than throwing him in to an important game in Europe in my opinion.
 

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He didn't seem ready, whether it was nerves or otherwise. That's fine because it's to be expected, but it should be managed better than throwing him in to an important game in Europe in my opinion.
Matic and Pogba are injured. They only have 2 fit central midfield players (McTominay and Fred). The Europa League has been earmarked as a competition to blood the young players this season. Playing him in that game made sense. Certainly more than Liverpool home or Norwich away.
 

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Matic and Pogba are injured. They only have 2 fit central midfield players (McTominay and Fred). The Europa League has been earmarked as a competition to blood the young players this season. Playing him in that game made sense. Certainly more than Liverpool home or Norwich away.
Ok, well it's valid to say he didn't look ready. Hopefully it'll give him confidence for his next outing.
 

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None of the kids are ready, not one of them. However, it's good to see Garner get some game time.

It's weird because of all these kids, the one who has the most realistic in-road to making an immediate impact and becoming a first teamer is the one nobody mentioned in pre-season:

Brandon Williams.

He has the advantage of an injury-prone sicknote LB to displace and a veteran who adds nothing. Plus, his performances have been quite good too.
 

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None of the kids are ready, not one of them. However, it's good to see Garner get some game time.

It's weird because of all these kids, the one who has the most realistic in-road to making an immediate impact and becoming a first teamer is the one nobody mentioned in pre-season:

Brandon Williams.

He has the advantage of an injury-prone sicknote LB to displace and a veteran who adds nothing. Plus, his performances have been quite good too.
I don’t think he went on tour, did he? Could be wrong but that might explain why he’s gone under the radar.
 

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Debuted in a tough away game with an intimidating atmosphere and a Dr. Seuss playing surface and the worst webcam say about his performance was that he was occasionally anonymous. Not bad for a young kid. He'll need games like this to improve.
 

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Hostile atmosphere for a young player to make his debut in, especially in a team in as poor form as we are, so with that context I think he did fine.
 

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Think he should go out on loan in January and then all of next season. He's consistently quality for the youth sides, but he's pretty far away from being ready to start. Can say that for all our youth tbh. Greenwood I can see the logic of keeping him, but I'm not sure how great the environment is to grow him. Gomes definitely should get a loan to get used to the physicality of playing every week, Chong for sure needs something like a year and a half loan, etc. Tuanzebe developed properly as a younger player going out on loan over time, and now is ready to come in and will have a good impact this season. Ole's just going too soon with all the youth players IMO and all would benefit from a loan spell to get used to playing regularly in the Championship. More beneficial to play there than to play at levels they aren't ready for (the premier league or Europa league), or playing at a level they are too good for (the youth teams).
 
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Weak defending for the goal, and not just by him but McTominay and Maguire who should also be doing better. However other than that a very nice cameo in midfield
 

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Looked pretty fecking classy today. He's everything we thought he was.
 

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He has composure beyond his years. Hopefully we see more and more of him in the first team as the season goes on. Very classy player on the ball.
 

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He's looked a bit suspect when tackling both today and Thursday but that could just be a bit of nerves and trying too hard so he's lunging in. Composed and capable on the ball though, look forward to seeing him develop.
 

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Very confident today when he came on. I think we can just let Matic go in January if he keeps showing good progress here.

The turn was class & some good passing & not sloppy when under pressure.

:drool:
 

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All he needs is a run of games IMO and I hope he gets the run of games in the coming months. He's far more talented than the likes of McTominay that I don't think it'll be long before he becomes a regular.
 

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Something that stands out from him: He has lazer sharp short-medium passing. There are good passers of the ball and then consistent snipers like James. It's very refreshing to see. It's an underrated ability that Scholes and Carrick had in their toolbox. Make sure you master the short and medium pass.
 

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Something that stands out from him: He has lazer sharp short-medium passing. There are good passers of the ball and then consistent snipers like James. It's very refreshing to see. It's an underrated ability that Scholes and Carrick had in their toolbox. Make sure you master the short and medium pass.
This. Also has this knack of knowing what he wants to do before he gets the ball. I'm pretty psyched about him, needs to bulk up a bit and be better defensively but I think we have a player on our hands. Hope Ole / Carrick groom him well.
 

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Something that stands out from him: He has lazer sharp short-medium passing. There are good passers of the ball and then consistent snipers like James. It's very refreshing to see. It's an underrated ability that Scholes and Carrick had in their toolbox. Make sure you master the short and medium pass.
Agreed and these were forward passes too.

He really had a good game. Calm and composed. I'm sure the score and the fact we were winning helped keep him composed.
 

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He helped settled us down a bit with his simple use of the ball, control in our play is something we’ve missed badly post-Carrick. He should have taken out the Norwich player outside the box on their goal but that’s down to experience.
 
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