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That's exactly what I expected. He generally brings on the kids on the 80 mins mark mark to salvage his sinking career. Can you imagine any top manager doing that every week? Either give the kids time to shine or bring them on in a game where we are cruising. Giving them 10 mins to save a game every week just smacks of desperation, poor planning and basically being a shite manager way out of his depth.

In any other field, he would have been sacked by now with his performances.
OGS is just out of his depth sadly. We would all love if a legend of the game could make better choices but unfortunately, it's not the case
 

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It was a bad decision to go near full strength midweek. I though it might cost us today and it did.
Sort of agree but we were in good form and bridge is a tough place to go and hence we packed the team. Our issues is the quality of the players and non existent bench which cannot be fixed in one season.
 

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"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" The Usual Suspects

The greatest trick Ole pulled is convincing the Red Devils he has a long term plan and will give youth a chance.
 

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This irks me so much. Long term fecking what? Long term shitness?

Bar Maguire he has bought well and he has bought in young players like Williams Garner and Greenwood who will be in the side for years to come and given chances to others .

Another manager wouldnt have done so and we would lose those talents .

Whatever else his reign will bring we will owe him thanks for that
 

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Needs to go, I can't believe he has let this team get to this stage. I don't want to see Lingard, Fred, Pereira anywhere near this team, so frustrating.
You would nearly think he signed off selling two midfielders and not replacing them??
 

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Players looked drained today without quality for rotation. Should have atleast had one point. We threw at them everything in the last but it wouldn't be today. Onwards and upwards
Wish I shared your optimism.
 

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Oleball never has or never will be good enough at the top level. He needs replacing.
The Norwich result shows how poor the opposition need to be for it to be successful. We have been beaten by some truly awful teams so far this season. There is no progress, only regression.
 

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Why would he forgo millions in payout? It's not like he'll walk into another job at any top club in the world. He'd do well to cushion the blow by getting his millions first.
Call me a romanticist, if you like, but I feel Ole would put the well being of the club before financial gain.
 

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Bar Maguire he has bought well and he has bought in young players like Williams Garner and Greenwood who will be in the side for years to come and given chances to others .

Another manager wouldnt have done so and we would lose those talents .

Whatever else his reign will bring we will owe him thanks for that
LVG would have and we would have been higher in the table with it too.
 

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It was a bad decision to go near full strength midweek. I though it might cost us today and it did.
He put a near full strength team up against Rochdale at the time. Let alone against Chelsea this week.

He's clueless and most probably we will be 10 points adrift top 4 at the end of the day. But yeah at least we're safe from relegation zone (so far).
 

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Shame we can't play Norwich every week.

We'll keep hovering around 7th to 10th spot for the majority of the season winning a game and losing the next and I'm sure it'll be totally fine for the Ole in crowd because they probably enjoy the idea of having an ex legend managing the club rather than what's actually happening on the pitch.
 

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I don't want him sacked as he is the first manager since fergie to show interest in the long term .

However there is no denying the here and now has been horrific
Moyes had interest in a long term. And he is 10x better manager than Ole.
 

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We've not got the creative players to break teams down under ANY manager. Haven't for years. They're just not those type of players. Tons of pace, works well on the counter but don't have the players to provide that killer ball.

Have to ride it out and let him bring in a bit more quality before we change anything again.
 

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Call me a romanticist, if you like, but I feel Ole would put the well being of the club before financial gain.
No one will do that with millions on the line. Literally no one. Heck even SAF put his own ego in front of the club when he went to war with the majority stake holders over some stud.
 

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I bet this is like some sort of buzz, for some, bashing him, after restraining a bit over the last 3 weeks. This Bournemouth game was always going to be tricky.
After the Liverpool we had a decent run of 5 games against mid to lower table teams, but my target has always been a minimum of 9 points from them, thats not changed, regardless of this result, as i was not expecting to win them all.
That said the people that constantly bash seem devoid of reality, they say everything is crap, yet seem to think we should be winning everygame, even after the Liverpool game when we were supposed to lose 0-5 was a opportunity to bash.
 

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Sort of agree but we were in good form and bridge is a tough place to go and hence we packed the team. Our issues is the quality of the players and non existent bench which cannot be fixed in one season.
It definitely the quality of players. Even a half decent number 10 and today is a different game. We're not going to win every game with what we've got unfortunately, today is just the kind of result that will happen.
 

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The worst thing in all this is that Woodward won't do anything about it.

There's so much to play for this season, making a change now could be just what we need to win the EL and sneak into the CL that way. I feel that we desperately need CL to get the players we need next summer.
 

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This is just LVG second season all over again anyway. We'll keep losing to midtable and inferior teams, beating relegation fodders while doing well in big matches to give Ole enough time to ease pressure before we feck it up again.
 

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Any post match comments from him yet? I am pretty sure he will say we played well and deserved something from the game, completely forgetting that we had just 3 shots on target and we barely troubled their keeper.
 

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Any post match comments from him yet? I am pretty sure he will say we played well and deserved something from the game, completely forgetting that we had just 3 shots on target and we barely troubled their keeper.
Part of the plan. We're working long term. We were unlucky, Pogba is injured...

He will always have excuses.
 

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Call me a romanticist, if you like, but I feel Ole would put the well being of the club before financial gain.
Yeah, I'm not sure he'd be doing us any favours that way. A few millions means nothing in the grand scheme of things. And for him to walk out without giving the board the necessary time to hire people who can help them do their jobs would just mean another scatterbrained decision.

Thankfully not all of us think a long-term approach requires Solskjaer being the manager - like some have insisted on. But a long-term approach does require us to hire a manager who fits and if we have to wait, the interim period needs to be carefully considered. We probably don't have any coach at the club of the required pedigree to step in.
 

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OGS is just out of his depth sadly. We would all love if a legend of the game could make better choices but unfortunately, it's not the case
How many top managers come from former great players? So this notion that a playing legend would sort our mess was always a romantic notion with not a lot to back that in terms of prior history.
 

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People talk about him getting rid of the deadwood. That deadwood is better than what he kept and that deadwood won have won us more games than the number of games we have won.

Honestly some Manchester United fans are getting delusion like WestHam and Newcastle. It breaks my heart to say so but that is the reality. Some of us think that we have a divine right to win and that we have to play a certain way only. The only Manchester United way is the winning way. How we win is of secondary importance.
Yes players like Fellaini etc may not be pleasing on the eye but certainly he would have won us more matches than this lot he kept. So getting rid of players without replacing them and thinking the kids can do it is delusional too.

Now Woodward needs to do the right thing and get rid of Ole before we get dragged into a relegation fight.
Your post makes no sense . You call us delusional for wanting ole to stay saying we think we have a divine right to win when most Ole fans are willing to accept losing now to improve in the future .

You however want to keep players that have taken us nowhere in the hope of winning the odd game here and there and never improving
 

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It definitely the quality of players. Even a half decent number 10 and today is a different game. We're not going to win every game with what we've got unfortunately, today is just the kind of result that will happen.
Yes and I've succumbed to that fact so I can take this result without all the doom.
 

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He put a near full strength team up against Rochdale at the time. Let alone against Chelsea this week.

He's clueless and most probably we will be 10 points adrift top 4 at the end of the day. But yeah at least we're safe from relegation zone (so far).
Knew you would be back. Been quiet for a while.

Bookies gave us less than 50% chance of a win today. These games happen to squads like ours.
 

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Part of the plan. We're working long term. We were unlucky, Pogba is injured...

He will always have excuses.
Part of which plan? To flirt with relegation so that we may realize how lucky we are to be in the PL?
 

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If Solskjaer was in charge of Everton, Brighton, Southampton etc., he’d have been sacked already.

Absolutely laughable.
The crazy thing is they would have never even considered him for the job unlike us. It's weird having a manager at United that not one other team in the league - from midtable to relegation fodder - would touch with a barge pole.
 

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Any post match comments from him yet? I am pretty sure he will say we played well and deserved something from the game, completely forgetting that we had just 3 shots on target and we barely troubled their keeper.
We started well, but did not take advantage while we were on top. If you do that you get what you deserve in the end, nothing.Goals win you games in the end, not just effort.
 

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From his post-match comments: "If you want to be challenging for the top four, and moving up the table, you have to win games like this. But I am sure Bournemouth will say that as well.” He is sure that Bournemouth will see a game against Manchester United as a game they (Bournemouth) should win? It's almost like OGS sees as a mid-table, eminently beatable team (which of course we are, but it hardly boosts the confidence to hear this sort of thing.)
 

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Knew you would be back. Been quiet for a while.

Bookies gave us less than 50% chance of a win today. These games happen to squads like ours.
I wasn't gone, commented after Norwich as well, not sure what your point is?

What is the today's excuse - bookies?
 
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