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Don't think Martial presses effectively enough to play as the centerpiece for a Guardiola team. Good technical player but sadly, not good enough off the ball. Martial's best moments have all come with the ball at his feet.Wrong thread, but how do you think Martial would do out of interest? Personally I think he would thrive
I agree, but can’t help but wonder whether a more inspirational coach could unlock him from his timid play styleDon't think Martial presses effectively enough to play as the centerpiece for a Guardiola team. Good technical player but sadly, not good enough off the ball. Martial's best moments have all come with the ball at his feet.
I think Rashford can be effective in the City setup as a squad player. He is still young and the kinks in his game can be ironed out by an expert.
Some weird bias. Not sure where it’s coming from.How can someone watch him regulary and think he is not talented enough? He is easily our most exciting player to watch, one that doesn't hide one bit in games even when he is the worst player on the pitch and tries to be attacking force alone, so I can't really understand how can people not like him.
That first half is probably one of the best individual performance we've seen from United player in past 10 years if it wasn't for bad finishing.
He's probably not going to be that consistent since he's young, his game hasn't fully come together yet.Very happy with the goal. The fact he took it with his left first time shows his confidence right now. Rashford a month ago takes a touch to take it on his right before shooting.
He's shown good form before only to drop down again. Hopefully this is the start of a consistent run for him.
And for all the stick he's getting his stats show he's a 1 in 2 striker this season so far. He definitely has the potential to improve and I'm sure he will. His development has been immense so far and he's just turned 22.He's at the centre of every thing we do. For all the chances he misses, if it weren't for him we wouldnt have any chances in the first place.
If he had been this good or even close to this good for much of last season and before he wouldn't have gotten any stick. Hrs playing great at the moment but about 80% of last season he was playing abjectly terrible. And it's not to do with being young and inconsistent. I've never seen a player with such a gap between their highest and lowest levels. On song he looks bona fide world class, but on one of his many many off days from precious seasons he can look like pub quality. You look at other talents young players like Hudson Odoi for example, there is not that much range between his good and bad games.And for all the stick he's getting his stats show he's a 1 in 2 striker this season so far. He definitely has the potential to improve and I'm sure he will. His development has been immense so far and he's just turned 22.
My point was about the stick he is getting this season.If he had been this good or even close to this good for much of last season and before he wouldn't have gotten any stick. Hrs playing great at the moment but about 80% of last season he was playing abjectly terrible. And it's not to do with being young and inconsistent. I've never seen a player with such a gap between their highest and lowest levels. On song he looks bona fide world class, but on one of his many many off days from precious seasons he can look like pub quality. You look at other talents young players like Hudson Odoi for example, there is not that much range between his good and bad games.
Imo that's why a logical shout was attitude, which was corroborated by the evidence of absolutely outlandish decision making on the pitch. I personally don't think it's coincedence he true nd a corner after finally getting some criticism in the media after having pure smoke blown up his ass before thwt. It's what he needed, now he's come back stronger and hopefully this time the form is going to in general stay.
Like, he's playing great now but let's not rewire history just so some of yous can get your pompous tuppenneth in.
Have some shame. We were playing a team that would get relegated in our league. He was very active today which is promising. I’d say this is up there as one if his best performances this season but you can’t read to much into it because of the opposition quality. If he performs consistently this weekend we can make more extreme statements.How can someone watch him regulary and think he is not talented enough? He is easily our most exciting player to watch, one that doesn't hide one bit in games even when he is the worst player on the pitch and tries to be attacking force alone, so I can't really understand how can people not like him.
That first half is probably one of the best individual performance we've seen from United player in past 10 years if it wasn't for bad finishing.
Is he still 1 in 2 without penalties? We have to start focusing on more open play goals because penalties is not a very reliable source. He needs to show more consistency against athletes and not the part time plumbers we played today.And for all the stick he's getting his stats show he's a 1 in 2 striker this season so far. He definitely has the potential to improve and I'm sure he will. His development has been immense so far and he's just turned 22.
What kind of logic is this? Ruud van Nistelrooy wouldn't be 1 in 2 striker in 2003/04 (his prime) had he not scored his 12 penalties. How can you discount the fact that he's scoring penalties.Is he still 1 in 2 without penalties? We have to start focusing on more open play goals because penalties is not a very reliable source. He needs to show more consistency against athletes and not the part time plumbers we played today.
Definitely find Martial more exciting so not sure about this 'easily' bit.How can someone watch him regulary and think he is not talented enough? He is easily our most exciting player to watch, one that doesn't hide one bit in games even when he is the worst player on the pitch and tries to be attacking force alone, so I can't really understand how can people not like him.
That first half is probably one of the best individual performance we've seen from United player in past 10 years if it wasn't for bad finishing.
For some reason he didn’t get assist against Partizan.@Damien
If I'm not mistaken Rashford should be on 4 assists.
1 assist vs Wolves
1 assist vs Arsenal
1 assist vs Norwich
1 assist vs Partizan
That's nonsense logic.Is he still 1 in 2 without penalties? We have to start focusing on more open play goals because penalties is not a very reliable source. He needs to show more consistency against athletes and not the part time plumbers we played today.
A deflectionFor some reason he didn’t get assist against Partizan.
Right on and this season has shown the importance of a good penalty taker, if we had taken our penalties well we'd be 6th or thereabouts.Is he still 1 in 2 without penalties? We have to start focusing on more open play goals because penalties is not a very reliable source. He needs to show more consistency against athletes and not the part time plumbers we played today.
Didn't look like it deflected when watching replays. Shame he didn't get the assist.A deflection
Yeah they showed the replay on RTE and they reckoned as it wasn't a deflection and was nowhere near Mata that he must've meant to pass it to Greenwood.Didn't look like it deflected when watching replays. Shame he didn't get the assist.
Don't think they will review assists and all.Yeah they showed the replay on RTE and they reckoned as it wasn't a deflection and was nowhere near Mata that he must've meant to pass it to Greenwood.
Could have been a mis-hit mind, but it deffo wasn't a deflection.
Do they review these later like goals?
What kind of logic is this? Ruud van Nistelrooy wouldn't be 1 in 2 striker in 2003/04 (his prime) had he not scored his 12 penalties. How can you discount the fact that he's scoring penalties.
If he's got the balls to step up to penalties and he's scoring them then that's a good thing in my book. Regardless, he's a wide forward that's contributing to our chance creation as well as scoring.
Not really. My point here is that I want him to focus on trying to improve being prolific from scoring open play goals and not set pieces. I'm also not discounting the fact he scores penalties. I Just want him to be more comfortable as a natural goalscorer. Anybody can score penalties(regardless how many we've missed). Which is why id rather judge him on how effective he is in open play. The amount of goals we will probably have from penalties will be less than 5% so relying on them isn't as important. So just to be clear Im not discounting his penalties I'm just not placing much importance in them given his position as a forward in the team. He needs to improve on his regular goalscoring technique.That's nonsense logic.
