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It's a Podcast, I listened to it while doing other things.I don't get how can anyone set down to watch a 1 hour video. There are more precious things to do in your life during that hour.
It's a Podcast, I listened to it while doing other things.I don't get how can anyone set down to watch a 1 hour video. There are more precious things to do in your life during that hour.
Oh,it certainly isn't.If he can't handle that, why should we accommodate him (in any way)? He isn't a player who has established himself in any shape or form at the highest level.
The point has been made on here in numerous threads: be against splashing obscene amounts on Haaland (or anyone similar) for any number of reasons - fair enough. Be against it because it might "upset" Martial - not a valid argument, period.
And you have a point because no one will.Who's going to pay him 200k a week elsewhere?
Me too. Crazy isn't it.It's a Podcast, I listened to it while doing other things.
Strange thing to say on a football forum when the game is an hour and a half longI don't get how can anyone set down to watch a 1 hour video. There are more precious things to do in your life during that hour.
Actually Ranieri is known for calling players out at least he has been doing it in France. And it was a tactical change, Martial entered the game as a wide forward and Monaco were under pressure at the end of the game so Jardim decided to bring an actual wide player in order to go with a 451 instead of a 433.DT is fair in his assessment of Martial (its far from a hatchet job), saying that he drifts between a 6 and 8 rating but never looks enthusiastic. Recognizes that he has the skills to succeed but questions if he has the drive to push on and consistently give 9/10 performances that the ballon d'or type players do.
Some of the stories mentioned:
Ranieri (who is not known for calling players out) calling out Martial's lack of application while at Monaco
One story about coming on as a sub on 60 mins at Monaco and being subbed off 20 mins later having done nothing
Another about missing a match (away against Norwich 3 years ago) due to a supposed injury but being fine the following Monday for training, resulting in one of the senior players being disgusted and saying Martial 'didn't fancy it'
I wonder if he'd thrive in a 3-5-2 somewhere in a role like Jota has for Wolves, with a hardworking partner and the ability to run at CBs from the left, but nobody apart from Conte plays that way at a big club every week.
Ole also praised Lingard, Jones, Pereira and Shaw... And they are all poor....The player barely getting a full season chance as a centre forward and already has a video of someone questioning his quality & potential what he can become, the beard man is embarrassing.
Wait until end of the season then judge, there is no point to judge him now just because he had terrible game on the weekend but then again we are ignoring the fact that our midfield barely even pass the ball on target to our attackers in that game, can’t expect the attackers to do lot of things.
Ole himself has praised Martial about how good he is as a striker. The player has shown promising sign playing in the role this season, he has time to improve, Ole rebuilding squad plan is also improving players. Ole himself is also a former striker at United, can’t suit a better man than our previous managers who can improve him.
Really?Ole also praised Lingard, Jones, Pereira and Shaw... And they are all poor....
I listened to the podcast, and got work done. 2 birds, 1 stoneI don't get how can anyone set down to watch a 1 hour video. There are more precious things to do in your life during that hour.
That's nearly 20 appearances less, almost a seasons worth of opportunity considering he has hardly played centrally too. Not too bad.
Callum Wilson has played nearly 20 games less than him. Martial is not and never has been a prolific CF. its debateable as to whether he will score more CF or LWFTo be fair Martial has played largely on the left and I’d also like to know how many of those appearances were full games he’s made a lot of sub appearances etc.
Games and films are more entertaining than listening to 2 people talking for 1 hour.Strange thing to say on a football forum when the game is an hour and a half long
Guess films aren't for you either
Same - DT may be a good writer, but good speaker he is NOT"You know, Martial sulks for different teams he played for, you know." Unbelievable amount of "you know" in the video, i was done after 10 minutes.
And this why I think he is more of a creator of chances & needs to be dropped a little bit deeper.Those guys who don't rate Martial, What was our goal scoring like when he was injured and what has it been like since he came back?
He has actually played 235 less minutes, all of them as a striker.Callum Wilson has played nearly 20 games less than him. Martial is not and never has been a prolific CF. its debateable as to whether he will score more CF or LWF
As long as he gave a heartfelt interview, it shows he cares about United.The DDG stuff was more alarming than any of the Martial stuff. The absolute greed is astonishing.
Downed tools?Doesn't rise to the challenge when needed. Sheffield United just had to be aggressive and energetic and he just downed tools. Absolute luxury player if you ask me.
did you actually watch the game?Doesn't rise to the challenge when needed. Sheffield United just had to be aggressive and energetic and he just downed tools. Absolute luxury player if you ask me.
It's a very opinionated interview, touches on topics such as "Martial may not be good enough, Haaland may be what we're looking for." United transfer policy is a bit worrying, Rojo was going to trail for bottling someone before signing for United and nobody from the club had any idea so now United have tightened their background checks. Then a lot of opinions on the desire of certain players. Some small praise for Brandon Williams and questions if Greenwood is good enough.Any summary? 50 minutes is a long listen.
Absolutely. Completely couldn't be arsed. Doesn't matter if he did some half-decent things, he should be doing way more. He's an obviously quality footballer. Sick of people defending the likes of Pogba and Martial who just don't try hard enough, simple.Downed tools?
It's him holding the ball up, turning and passing to James before the cross for 2-1.
He plays the 1-2 with Dan James before 3-2.
At this point, im just going to bookmark this thread and revisit it in May. There is no swaying people.
Its why i dont argue anymore in regards to martial. He has performed above expectations individually and to the benefit of the team this season. yet you have ridiculous posts comparing callum wilson who exclusively plays as a striker to martial who played on the left for most of his time here. Nobody ever wants to apply context when making a point but would rather state misleading facts in order to push their agenda.Those guys who don't rate Martial, What was our goal scoring like when he was injured and what has it been like since he came back?
Yeah, that's not true at all and Fergie wasn't the one sorting transfers out, these things were done by the CEOs and CFOs, surely you remember the issues that SAF had with the hierarchy regarding the wage structure and Kenyon's shenanigans?Interesting bit by DT re our recruitment process. During Fergie days, he used to phone the other team manager and transfer would be sorted out shortly - in one instance within 3 days.
Nowadays due to the present set up, it could take up to 8 months.....
I know he’s been player of the year 7 billion times in a row and that gives him leeway, but he seriously gets away with an awful lot. The latter half of last season was one of the most shameful set of performances I’ve seen from one of our players in the last few years - and that’s saying something.The DDG stuff was more alarming than any of the Martial stuff. The absolute greed is astonishing.
Do you think it might have anything to him being out for close to 3 months or that doesnt matter? Firmino had 12 goals in 31 appearances last season but some might consider him more than enough to win the league, dont you think?It says something that in FPL he's 7.8m, as a midfielder no less, playing up front for Manchester United, and is owned by less than 10% of teams. You might wonder why does that matter, but it's just a proxy for opinion on him. He's a decent player for a side in the top half of the PL, but little more.
Happy to have him in the squad, but don't see us winning the league depending on him with his current level of output. He could improve further, but these should be his peak years now.
Only one??I know he’s been player of the year 7 billion times in a row and that gives him leeway, but he seriously gets away with an awful lot. The latter half of last season was one of the most shameful set of performances I’ve seen from one of our players in the last few years - and that’s saying something.
Silly post. Martial joined us as a 19 year old. His statistics should be compared to players in the same stage of their career. Moreover, he's also spent much of that time on the wings. And then there's of course playing under a manager who handled him poorly for 2.5 years, and being (like our other players) part of a dysfunctional team.Martials premier league stats:
Appearances121Goals37Assists20
random other average rated striker stats: i promise i picked a random striker, not at a top 6 club ( to make a point - so there was some bias there)
Appearances139Goals37Assists18 (Troy Deeney)
and another random one:
Appearances104Goals38Assists11 (Callum Wilson)
would either of them be described as World Class or having world class potential? and yet their output over the last 5 years matches that of our Antony.
He says the words 'you know' about 12,000 timesPlease give us the gist.
Like what? Posting 28,000 times on a forum?I don't get how can anyone set down to watch a 1 hour video. There are more precious things to do in your life during that hour.
I get he has a certain style that's not to everyones liking but the talent is clearly there. I personally think that if he can stay fit he'll score 20+ in all comps.Also a situation with Jardim where Martial was subbed on and 20 minutes later subbed off due to a lack of influence in the game.
The thing that I don't get is that he is talking about things from 2013 and 2014, Martial was 17 when Ranieri coached him and he wasn't fully with the first team, Ranieri would regularly talk to the younger players through the press whether if it was to praise them or tell them to get more focused, hungrier. He did it for James and Ocampos as an example, he would do this type of things all the time.Basically Taylor has some juicy tidbits so will disregard anything positive about Martial including what he’s currently doing this season.