Marcus Rashford vs Tammy Abraham

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That's the caf for you. It's become pathetic.

If Greewood goes 6 games without scoring,he'll be consigned to the rubbish bin.

Yet you can bet the same posters will be singing the praises of footballers they've never seen live in Germany, France etc but are convinced are what we need
I'd say thats football fans in general for you.
 

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That's the caf for you. It's become pathetic.

If Greewood goes 6 games without scoring,he'll be consigned to the rubbish bin.

Yet you can bet the same posters will be singing the praises of footballers they've never seen live in Germany, France etc but are convinced are what we need
Perfect summary.

The perfect example was £80m for Maguire and alot of fans were on here giving out all the names from across saying they would cost cheaper etc.

We always seem to find negativity with our players.
 

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Still think Abraham is a better striker but Rashford is a much better player. I think it’s because this place is hyperbole, when we beat Norwich we were back but it’s our first away win in the league since March and when we lose we are getting relegated.

Fans like building up players just to tear them down but Rashford has the mentality and talent to succeed here and is a better player than Tammy
Maybe Tammy has the mentality and talent to succeed at Chelsea too. Not sure why one is certainly better than the other right now. The jury is out

It does appear though that Rashford isn't or doesn't want to be a no 9
 

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Maybe Tammy has the mentality and talent to succeed at Chelsea too. Not sure why one is certainly better than the other right now. The jury is out

It does appear though that Rashford isn't or doesn't want to be a no 9
No real evidence to support that view. It's the lean period we're in that lends itself to the view that certain players can't do this or that.

If we had the quality around us and the midfield was chipping in with a decent % of goals this wouldn't be such a debate
 

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No real evidence to support that view. It's the lean period we're in that lends itself to the view that certain players can't do this or that.

If we had the quality around us and the midfield was chipping in with a decent % of goals this wouldn't be such a debate
Except his own words and the words of Southgate... and even Ole
 

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Maybe Tammy has the mentality and talent to succeed at Chelsea too. Not sure why one is certainly better than the other right now. The jury is out

It does appear though that Rashford isn't or doesn't want to be a no 9
Rashford has been here 5 years though with a fantastic big game record. Marcus is miles ahead in that regard.
To me, Tammy looks like he has levelled out after a glut of goals in a handful of games. Its looking like a run of form rather than staking a claim for a long term spot.
 

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Except his own words and the words of Southgate... and even Ole
Agreed, comments from Jose also concurred that he seen him as a LW and not complete 9. His skill set and the knock the ball and run, suits being on the wing. Becoming clearer and clearer he ain't a striker, still a tremendous talent and potential but I feel it would be wasted constantly pushing him to play ST, which Ole seems aware off, thankfully.
 

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Rashford has been here 5 years though with a fantastic big game record. Marcus is miles ahead in that regard.
To me, Tammy looks like he has levelled out after a glut of goals in a handful of games. Its looking like a run of form rather than staking a claim for a long term spot.
You are just doing what you accused the Rashford haters of doing during a dry patch. The jury is out, they are both promising young players.
Rashford has certainly demonstrated more at PL level, but has also played more there too. Scoring 20+ goals in the championship twice is no mean feat for a player of Tammys age.
Lets just see how they develop in the future
 

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You are just doing what you accused the Rashford haters of doing during a dry patch. The jury is out, they are both promising young players.
Rashford has certainly demonstrated more at PL level, but has also played more there too. Scoring 20+ goals in the championship twice is no mean feat for a player of Tammys age.
Lets just see how they develop in the future
But you cant pretend both are starting at zero which is why this comparison is flawed.
Marcus has shown a lot more at the same age and so be judged as such.
 

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Different players. Rashford a left sided attacker by self-confessed preference. Abraham an out and out striker
 

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But you cant pretend both are starting at zero which is why this comparison is flawed.
Marcus has shown a lot more at the same age and so be judged as such.
I didn't pretend anything. Simply stated that they are both at different stages of their development and the jury is out on who is better. Not that it even matters who is better anyway. Both look like promising young players.

If Tammy was a United player we would gave United fans raving about his goalscoring exploits so far
 

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Marcus is a hybrid. He’s got great pace, is a good finisher when on his game. A bit too slight to be a single striker. Skilled, but not skilled enough in tight quarters or to take on multiple defenders like Sterling or Sancho.

Tammy is a classic lone striker who has all the tools to hold the ball up, is good in the air and is a good finisher/poacher. Basically a Didier Drogba clone. Doesn’t have as much pace as Marcus and isn’t as skilled with the ball at his feet.

There is a chance, a very small one, but still a chance, that Rashford develops to have a Thierry Henry type of career, starting out as a winger, then becomes a goal scoring forward. He will get stronger, and with better players around him, his goal scoring will improve, so it is possible.

Between the two of them, Rashford has a higher ceiling, but is less likely to hit that ceiling.
 

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Maybe Tammy has the mentality and talent to succeed at Chelsea too. Not sure why one is certainly better than the other right now. The jury is out

It does appear though that Rashford isn't or doesn't want to be a no 9
Maybe he does but I feel Rashford is a all round better player which might be wrong in future but right now I think it’s obvious.
I agree Rashford is not and shouldn’t be a no9
 

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Find it crazy this comparison thread is still actually going as Rashford is far and away the better player and also they’re completely different players that play a completely different role at their clubs.

Abraham hit a brief purple patch of goals and is vastly overrated because he plays for someone else, if he played for us he’d be ridiculed and cast off as a flop after a few games without scoring whilst Rashford gets the opposite because he plays for us.
 

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Lukaku is a much better striker than Abraham yet when he was here he got nothing but stick, and if he was still here now being picked ahead of Rashford, the same people who start threads like this would be in uproar about it.

It's actually quite astonishing how blind to their own idiocy some of our fans are.

Basically as soon as a player is in a United shirt the standard by which these people judge them goes up tenfold to a level where they basically have to perform like Messi every week just to not be labelled as shite.

The worst thing about it is that it clearly affects the confidence and possibly attitude of some of our players...and why wouldn't it?
 

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Tammy is currently second top scorer in the league and Rashford joint 4th.

More impressive is for goals and assists combined they are both ahead of Sterling, Aguero, Auba, Kane, Son, KDB, Mane, Salah etc. Only Vardy has more.

Not many would have betted on that when this thread was made.
 

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Got to admit I'm very impressed with the way Rashford's stepped his game up this season. Back in September I was cursing him getting picked ahead of Sancho for England but if he keeps this up his place will arguably be as nailed on as Sterling's.

Regarding this thread it's becoming a bit of a horses for courses thing now, Tammy sweeps up against lesser sides better but Rashford has a much better big game record.
 

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Tammy might be the best thing to happen to us/Rashford.

I think it made him up his level.
 

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:lol::lol: this will be funny in a few years
Ok mate....I am not comparing him to Welbeck the striker. I am comparing him to Welbeck POTENTIAL wise. He will have as big an impact on a team as Welbeck through his career. I also used Welbeck because he too came from the academy.

Rashford as a winger is not a player that will scare any top defender he cant beat a man (pause) as well as other wide players and he does not score enough or assist enough either. Either way you look at it he is poor across the board.
Didn't take as long as you thought to be funny, eh?;)
 

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Didn't take as long as you thought to be funny, eh?;)
Eyyy credit where it’s due, he has been doing well and if it means United are winning and doing well then I hope it continues.

I will admit I am still not fully convinced with him despite his purple patch of form right now but if he performs At this or a higher level at a consistent basis then I will gladly admit I was wrong.

Happy for the lad and hope he does well, time will tell.
 

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Marcus is a hybrid. He’s got great pace, is a good finisher when on his game. A bit too slight to be a single striker. Skilled, but not skilled enough in tight quarters or to take on multiple defenders like Sterling or Sancho.

Tammy is a classic lone striker who has all the tools to hold the ball up, is good in the air and is a good finisher/poacher. Basically a Didier Drogba clone. Doesn’t have as much pace as Marcus and isn’t as skilled with the ball at his feet.

There is a chance, a very small one, but still a chance, that Rashford develops to have a Thierry Henry type of career, starting out as a winger, then becomes a goal scoring forward. He will get stronger, and with better players around him, his goal scoring will improve, so it is possible.

Between the two of them, Rashford has a higher ceiling, but is less likely to hit that ceiling.
Agreed, but success is inevitable for Rashford.

He is hard working behind the scenes, and if he maintains that determination, he is most likely to hit the ceiling rather than fail.
 

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This thread is like comparing Lewondowski to Messi. We are talking about players in totally different positions. Sure, Rashford has played as a striker, but for the most part, not very well. It is obvious that Rashford's best position is as a left winger. So I guess that answers the OP's question. Abraham is the better striker. However, Rashford is the better player and bigger talent...
 

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Anyone who compared him with Welbeck in the last couple of years or so when it has been abundantly clear that he's two levels above Welbeck needs to find some another sport to watch.
 

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Lukaku is a much better striker than Abraham yet when he was here he got nothing but stick, and if he was still here now being picked ahead of Rashford, the same people who start threads like this would be in uproar about it.

It's actually quite astonishing how blind to their own idiocy some of our fans are.

Basically as soon as a player is in a United shirt the standard by which these people judge them goes up tenfold to a level where they basically have to perform like Messi every week just to not be labelled as shite.

The worst thing about it is that it clearly affects the confidence and possibly attitude of some of our players...and why wouldn't it?
This is a fantastic post. This constant urge of United fans to label all of our players as shit and especially academy players is amazing.
 

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Anyone who compared him with Welbeck in the last couple of years or so when it has been abundantly clear that he's two levels above Welbeck needs to find some another sport to watch.
Exactly - ridiculous, Welbeck is Bamby on ice, how can anyone compare them.
 

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Now he's found his natural position Rashford is finding his form. He was absolutely outstanding yesterday from the left. He's an inside forward not a number 9.
He could have easily had 4 or 5 goals yesterday and could be our talisman moving forward.
Also thought Greenwood was very good as a 9 yesterday. He linked in with James and Rashford very well.
 

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This thread is like comparing Lewondowski to Messi. We are talking about players in totally different positions. Sure, Rashford has played as a striker, but for the most part, not very well. It is obvious that Rashford's best position is as a left winger. So I guess that answers the OP's question. Abraham is the better striker. However, Rashford is the better player and bigger talent...
And dont forget, Rashford has played out of position in a couple of games as well. If Abraham had been playing as LW the same number of games, i would think they would have the same amount of goals more or less.
 

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Just reminding everyone that Marcus Rashford turned 22 5 weeks ago.
 

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Anyone who compared him with Welbeck in the last couple of years or so when it has been abundantly clear that he's two levels above Welbeck needs to find some another sport to watch.
Need to get out and watch football. Rashford is clearly alot more talented and has more to his game.

I want to see him improve his hold up play. He brings alot when is up for it.
 

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I think Rashford might be coming of age, whilst I agree that some of the criticism was over the top, Rashford really has been shite up until the last 2 months or so. Yesterday's performance was absolutely phenomenal, I really can't say enough about it.

I've liked Tammy since he was at Swansea, always looked a good, sharp striker who's obviously massive as well. He's showing this season that he's got enough about him to be a starting striker for Chelsea as well, which is very impressive. Rashford seems the more complete player, but clearly Tammy is a better striker.
 

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In my opinion I think Tammy is better. He’s a more complete striker and can hold up and head the ball. If you look at Rashford half the time he’s not thinking about what he’s doing. A lot of his game is based on luck. His brace tonight was a shot the keeper should of saved and a pen. But then again people can argue you make your own luck and if you don’t shoot you don’t score.

At this moment Rashford isn’t mature enough to lead the line for united. We need a more composed striker. What annoys me is people change like the wind on here. One day they are like sell him then next they are like what a brilliant talent.
 

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Rashford is improving, that's the most encouraging thing. Like many young players, when he first came into the team he did lots of good things and quite a few cr*p things. He has been a bit inconsistent, but I think gradually the ratio of good things to cr*p things has gone up. I still see lots of room for improvement.
 

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In my opinion I think Tammy is better. He’s a more complete striker and can hold up and head the ball. If you look at Rashford half the time he’s not thinking about what he’s doing. A lot of his game is based on luck. His brace tonight was a shot the keeper should of saved and a pen. But then again people can argue you make your own luck and if you don’t shoot you don’t score.

At this moment Rashford isn’t mature enough to lead the line for united. We need a more composed striker. What annoys me is people change like the wind on here. One day they are like sell him then next they are like what a brilliant talent.
I know what you mean but IMO he is good enough to play off the left with a main striker down the middle, which is normally his role now. Important that he keeps playing regularly because he is improving and I think has potential to be top class. We do rely on him far too much though, we should have more options.