Erling Haaland / signs for Dortmund

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Ah, you guys weren't here for Sneijder were you? The beginning of flight tracking, Fergie ripping into journo's on a pre-season tour for quoting him as a source saying United were in talks with Sneijder, bald men being mistaken for Sneijder by the MEN at Manchester Airport. What a ride that was.
Ah yes i was here too mate. I watch Inter friendlies just to see what he would say after the match! Not many sagas of ours have happy endings. Berbatov and RVP were great when it ended
 

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Just an example of the fee not being as ridiculous as you seem to suggest given your own clubs track record.
Like I said, the Carroll was a complete failure and shouldn’t be used in comparison to anything.

That said, I’m intrigued to see how it pans out if you sign him. Particularly since he isn’t exactly built like someone who fits your current playing style, so it’d likely mean you’d set up differently.
 

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Lukaku didnt want to be here because Ole didnt play him as a striker and he was supose to be a benchwarmer. Last season under Olé he played mainly as a RW. Btw Lukaku is still very quick, its one of many myths that he is a fat and slow player.

So Ole pushed him away to buy a similar type of a player and play him where exactly? As a striker? Or as a RW like Lukaku was playing almost every time?



Being tall is not a quality, it is a physical predisposition. So tell me, if you dont see any similarities, what is Lukaku´s style of play and then you can tell me about Haland´s style of play. Maybe we can compare those styles, but how many Haalands games did you actually watch?
All the games in Norway, about one third of the games in Austria plus all condensed match overviews, all of his CL games. You?

Lukaku is a Center Forward that tends to move about a bit more than CF's usually do. His first and foremost skill includes opening up running lanes for teammate with his movement, and is a man you play the ball to to move it into the final third area due to his ability to handle the ball with help from his larger than average physique. Lukaku tends to take the ball to the 16m box and look for a quick pass. His weakness is first and foremost ball handling ability and pass accuracy. Lukaku is also in his prime and is not likely to develop any of his current skills that we are aware of. He's also not very defensively responsible and rarely makes a challenge in the defensive zone, then again he IS a forward. Lukaku is a very useful player, but primarily in a team that needs someone to carry the ball into the final third.

Haaland is first and foremost, a skyrocketing developing teenager. He still has time to develop parts of hi game to massive, or no improvement. Haaland differs from Lukaku in that he does NOT want to be the guy you play the ball to to hold it, but he rather wants to cut inside defenders and find pockets of space behind the defensive line for through balls. Finding that space and making himself available for a through ball is one of his biggest strength, that spatial awareness that will yield him a high amount of xDanger shots. In fact, Haaland almost never shoots outside the 16m box. If he shoots, its almost always a high xDanger stat shot. If Haaland gets behind the defenders in either a blind zone or in a spacial pocket, defenders can't do a lot unless they put in a slide tackle, he' just too strong for most to push off the ball. Haaland excels at playing through ball to his teammates, excels in transitional play, and enjoys having more focus on him, thereby allowing himself to create chances for teammates that will run into open passing lanes. He's a very good dribbler, great passing, and extremely unselfish.

The primary differences between Lukaku and Haaland is: Ball handling ability, how they use the space and passing lanes, role in tranitional and open play, foot quality (Haaland scores with both feet and head), shooting %, passing%, xDanger chances created and defensive responsibilities (Haaland is often in the back helping out the defensive side, only to rush up the pitch, outrunning nearly anyone in football on the quick break)

Lukaku netted 15 goals in 45 contests last year. Obviously Haaland has shattered that, but even if most of his goals are from Austria, 8 of them came in the Champions League against Liverpool, Genk and Napoli.
 

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I don't even know if the kid is any good but I'm desperate for s signing at this point :lol:
:lol: +1

It's a matter of principle, at this point. Sell Jones + Matic and buy this kid, what's the worst that can happen? :)
 

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All the games in Norway, about one third of the games in Austria plus all condensed match overviews, all of his CL games. You?

Lukaku is a Center Forward that tends to move about a bit more than CF's usually do. His first and foremost skill includes opening up running lanes for teammate with his movement, and is a man you play the ball to to move it into the final third area due to his ability to handle the ball with help from his larger than average physique. Lukaku tends to take the ball to the 16m box and look for a quick pass. His weakness is first and foremost ball handling ability and pass accuracy. Lukaku is also in his prime and is not likely to develop any of his current skills that we are aware of. He's also not very defensively responsible and rarely makes a challenge in the defensive zone, then again he IS a forward. Lukaku is a very useful player, but primarily in a team that needs someone to carry the ball into the final third.

Haaland is first and foremost, a skyrocketing developing teenager. He still has time to develop parts of hi game to massive, or no improvement. Haaland differs from Lukaku in that he does NOT want to be the guy you play the ball to to hold it, but he rather wants to cut inside defenders and find pockets of space behind the defensive line for through balls. Finding that space and making himself available for a through ball is one of his biggest strength, that spatial awareness that will yield him a high amount of xDanger shots. In fact, Haaland almost never shoots outside the 16m box. If he shoots, its almost always a high xDanger stat shot. If Haaland gets behind the defenders in either a blind zone or in a spacial pocket, defenders can't do a lot unless they put in a slide tackle, he' just too strong for most to push off the ball. Haaland excels at playing through ball to his teammates, excels in transitional play, and enjoys having more focus on him, thereby allowing himself to create chances for teammates that will run into open passing lanes. He's a very good dribbler, great passing, and extremely unselfish.

The primary differences between Lukaku and Haaland is: Ball handling ability, how they use the space and passing lanes, role in tranitional and open play, foot quality (Haaland scores with both feet and head), shooting %, passing%, xDanger chances created and defensive responsibilities (Haaland is often in the back helping out the defensive side, only to rush up the pitch, outrunning nearly anyone in football on the quick break)

Lukaku netted 15 goals in 45 contests last year. Obviously Haaland has shattered that, but even if most of his goals are from Austria, 8 of them came in the Champions League against Liverpool, Genk and Napoli.
Good post! Why you’re still bothering with answering these posts I can’t understand though.
 

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Lukaku didnt want to be here because Ole didnt play him as a striker and he was supose to be a benchwarmer. Last season under Olé he played mainly as a RW. Btw Lukaku is still very quick, its one of many myths that he is a fat and slow player.

So Ole pushed him away to buy a similar type of a player and play him where exactly? As a striker? Or as a RW like Lukaku was playing almost every time?
He played one or two games as RW and played every game as CF.
 

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Wtf of comparison with Lukaku, who can't stop a ball and scores often the 3rd, 4rd useless goal after the 10th missing
 

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A pudding is something you have after your tea (the meal, not the drink) Doesn't matter what it is. :lol: Yep, jam, cheese ect, all makes a good butty. Tbh, where I'm from you would never hear the word sandwich, even in cafe's chippy's ect it'll be called a butty...unless its a posh place, then they will say "chips in a bap"

Funny you linked shit and tutty, thats actually urdu for shit....I think!:lol:

Back on topic. Haaland would be a great buy at 20million, even at 60million I think it'd be money well spent, but any more than that I'd be a little bit wary and think maybe there are other areas of the squad that could be addressed first. Still, it'd be a real shame to miss out on the lad.
This...

"Chip sandwich please"...you'd get laughed out any chippy for saying that.

It's a fecking butty.
 

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I was working a temp job in Stockport for a company where everyone hated each other. Spent every lunch reading RedCafe and watching SSN (was on in the canteen), praying to see "DONE DEAL".
I was in med school in india, with a key exam in two days, i stood up all night checking caf every few mins to see update. Needless to say the exam went exactly like how the whole sage went. Worth it!
 

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Going by this interview and other reports, Leipzig are out of the race.
Pretty obvious it's between us and Dortmund. It depends on what Ole said to him. If he was promised first team football, Haaland will be a United player in a couple of weeks.
 

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It seemed to me the reason Ole didn't fancy him as a starter was he couldn't press to save his life. Something Ole likes in a forward and something Haaland is very good at.

In the Austrian league
 

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It would be the ultimate slap in the face of Ole if this kid has turned us down especially considering their history, same country and all that to go play in Germany. Even though we are poor at the moment turning down United for Leipzig would be an odd choice. I think he would prefer to play in the prem but it will probably all come down to what his advisors/agent will tell him to do.
 

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Very strange if he went to Leipzig over United even if we are shite at the moment.
 

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Check some video of Lukaku 6 - 7 years ago and you will se exactly the same type of the player. Lukaku wasnt huge like he is today, he was quick, he was hungry (and he still is btw), they are both classic number 9s, very tall, very strong, like to shoot from every angle, calm in 1 on 1 situations. Lukaku was maybe better, because when he was 19, he already played in PL for WHU and proved himself.

I have no idea who is Lukaku as a person and I dont really care. I just dont see any sense right now - selling Lukaku (with loss) and buying similar type of the player with no experience at top level.
Bollocks. So Lukaku was a CL top scorer at some point when He was 19?
 

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According to The Guardian he will be the best player in United. Haaland #53, Pogba #55, Rashford #72, De Gea#93. Bad news, Lukaku is better than all of them.
The 100 best male footballers in the world 2019. 100-11.

(..or is Lindgard or some other United player top 10?)
That list is bullshit. Anything outside the top 5 or 10 is a subjective opinion at that point. Some of those players either should be scoring higher or lower than they're currently placed, but then again, that's my opinion.
 

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Okay lads, assuming if we sign him, are we going to pay his release clause of 20M or the touted 75M asking price of him? I’m asking because i am seeing conflicting reports on this
 

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I have seen quite a bit of Haaland, probably more than most in here, but I will not pretend that I’m able to say with huge precision Haalands level and potential. I dont believe anyone can. And if someone say they do, one should be sceptical.

But I can say that the Lukaku-comparision is very superficial. It is made by people who see a big, strong and fast striker, and let their brain cheat a little making a lazy and fast analysis rather than actually studying them properly. In my opinion Haaland is closer to a young RvN in terms of style. But with a beast body and mentality. Will be interesting to see what he can turn that combo into.
 

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Ole wanted Lukaku to play as a wide right target man. He felt being out on the wing gives the midfield an easy angle to hit than playing the ball straight up the middle. It would also see Lukaku up against a full back instead of two centre backs, giving him the chance to run riot. Ole even said he wanted him to play similarly to Manzukic does as that’s his position, as seen during the World Cup.
Lukaku wasn’t interested and wanted to leave, that’s why he found himself on the bench and out of the team. If he’d have bought into that idea he would have started every game.
Sort of agree, but kind of disagree with this.

If Ole decided to approximate the Liverpool front 3, we would need two very fast wingers and a CF who can hold the ball and make passes that unlock the wingers with runs in behind.

Anyone who has watched more than 10 minutes of Lukaku could see that he has a terrible first touch and even though he is strong, does a poor job in holdup play. Just can’t control the ball enough to maintain possession.

He was never going to play CF for us because he doesn’t really fit our tactics as a CF. He felt (maybe rightly so) that it would be better to move on than stay with us whenever Martial was going to play CF. I never thought he was technical enough to play as a winger in that system either.

Haaland is faster than Lukaku and his movement in and around the box is superior. Looks to be a better finisher as well.
 

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Okay lads, assuming if we sign him, are we going to pay his release clause of 20M or the touted 75M asking price of him? I’m asking because i am seeing conflicting reports on this
What i'm able to fathom after reading several outlets is, Release clause isn't into effect or has other associated clauses along with it. If i have to make an educated guess, we won't be getting him for 25m or 75m like it's being quoted in the SUN. Somewhere in the middle probably.
 

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I have seen quite a bit of Haaland, probably more than most in here, but I will not pretend that I’m able to say with huge precision Haalands level and potential. I dont believe anyone can. And if someone say they do, one should be sceptical.

But I can say that the Lukaku-comparision is very superficial. It is made by people who see a big, strong and fast striker, and let their brain cheat a little making a lazy and fast analysis rather than actually studying them properly. In my opinion Haaland is closer to a young RvN in terms of style. But with a beast body and mentality. Will be interesting to see what he can turn that combo into.
The Lukaku comparisons outside of being goalscorers are nonsense. He plays nothing like him. Haaland also likes dropping deep and building up play. He reminds me of a cross between Rooney (without long range passing) and Mark Viduka. He can easily play in a fluid formation, he already does at Salsburg.
 

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Very strange if he went to Leipzig over United even if we are shite at the moment.
Not at all. He's still very young, and I think he'd struggle if he moved to the PL right now, at least it'd be a gamble. Both Leipzig and Dortmund are in a better position than us, and can offer a more stable path to success with less pressure. If he continues to do well in the Bundesliga, the world will be at his feet in a year or two. Two months ago I wouldn't lose any sleep at all if we missed out on him, but now I sort of want us to see this through after all the hype and nonsense.
 

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Shame something didn't happen before the hype-train started. We've shown interest and now it's blown up ten-fold.
This is the same club that was bidding £70m for Harry Maguire 12 months after he signed for Leicester for £12m. We don't have scouts. Plus the hype-train makes clubs sit up and take notice, unfortunately it does mean the fee goes up too.
 

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Ole’s whole answer from yesterday:

He is a player I like, we are always looking for good players. Erling has had a nice development and he should keep developing where he decides to go. I don’t need to talk much about him. But as a team we are always looking for players who can complement the ones we already have. And then we will see what we end up with.
 

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Haaland if he signs for United : "We have signed another donkey aka Lukaku"

Haaland if he signs for other club: "This is how one should recruit. Top talent we have missed out"

Did I do it correctly!
 

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This is the same club that was bidding £70m for Harry Maguire 12 months after he signed for Leicester for £12m. We don't have scouts. Plus the hype-train makes clubs sit up and take notice, unfortunately it does mean the fee goes up too.
unfair criticism in this case though. We've tried hard to sign him from Molde, but he decided to go to Salzburg for playing time. Now we're trying hard again. Can't really fault the club here, they couldn't possibly do more. Ole even took the time to fly out to Austria FFS.

Would be ecstatic if we ended up with him. If not, then let's move on ... I'm petty enough to say I wouldn't want a player in the future who's snubbed us twice. Especially because he'd cost a fortune then.
 
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