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Watford 2:0 Manchester United

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Sun, 22 December 2019

Strelok

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Honestly I'm in a meltdown. What a fecking disgrace tbh. The fact that Watford wasn't any good got me even angrier. It's been really really long time I didn't got that angry after seeing us lost. There's no heart, no urgency, nothing on the pitch and off the pitch, just look at Ole sitting cluelessly there ffs.

DDG must be benched the next match.
 

HackeyC

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Romero in for at least 3 or 4 weeks. De Gea needs a break.
Martial should be dropped for Greenwood.
Fred is starting to become a reliable player imo.
AWB, was always going to give one away eventually, he has saved us a lot with the same approach so I can't be hard on him.
Ole, serious question marks and with the manager merry go round in action it could be stick or twist for Poch, come Feb he will probably not be available.
 

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Utter shambles, yet sadly predictable.
 

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Ole don't deserve to coach Utd. What a joke? Beating top teams but unable get a result from bottom team. Never seen such manager. He keep saying there is a turning point in a season. I don't see it. He needs to go!!!!!@
 

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2 fullbacks who cant attack, 2 midfielder primarily there to win the ball back and he plays jesse lingard game after game behind the striker. where the feck does he expect a creativity to come from??
 

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Can't score, fecking blunt attack. How ole is supposed to manage your keeper palming into his own net, I'll never know. Players fully let him down today.
 

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Time for a change - owners, executives, management and players.

Not bothered which order the changes happen, just know it'll get worse before it gets better unless everything's changed.
 

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Disappointing performance but it illustrates why we need to up the quality all over the pitch. Other than Mata for Lingard and Williams (or even Young) over Shaw, it's pretty much the team anyone would have picked.
Some of those players only started looking remotely interested when we went two down. We need to kill off games in the first quarter, not chase them in the last!
 

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I've seen enough. Ole out, Poch in. Us struggling against the lower teams is normal now and its dangerous for the long term health of the club.

Pogba was our best player and looked as sharp as anyone in our team. Embarrassing performance by the others.
 

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Ole has got to go. So many problems but so much comes down to him. Clueless. Time go to.
We need Poch.

Martial is useless as number 9 but boy did he come alive in the 2nd half. Combination of Pogba coming on and being on the left. So I guess hes a LW after all? Not as good as Rashford

Seeing Pogba was a breath of fresh air. Lingard is not premier league quality at the moment.

Sometimes it feels we go as far as McTominay goes. If he has a bad game, we never play well.

Useless to have AWB when teams are sitting deep. Better to have Dalot playing. AWB offers nothing offensively.

Luke Shaw is useless too. If we splash big money in january, getting a great left back should be one of the first priorities.
 

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Really fed up of looking forward to our games only for us to turn out this garbage. Those two wins made me want to watch us again, just false hope.
 

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Such a shit performance. Fred and McTominay were useless on the ball in midfield although our whole team was wasteful.

Only positive is we looked like we could play football with Pogba on the field - made Shaw and Martial relevant in the game.

I'm willing to see how we get on with Pogba back but if we still continue this trend we have got to look for another manager who can coach these players.
 

Inigo Montoya

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Can't believe I woke up to watch this shite. Disgraceful performances all around other than Pogba, can't believe the disrespect he's received from some people. Created more chances in 30 minutes than the rest of our team has in the past month. As always, took us going down to an insurmountable deficit to show any kind of urgency against the worst fecking team in the league. Lingard can never start another game for this football club, disgraceful player. De Gea also needs to be dropped, at some point the mistakes get too much.

Manager is obviously clueless, but I think we knew that already. Not much he could have done about those two goals though
But the preceding minutes? Games?

They don’t listen to him or respect him. He’s a legend after all
 

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De Gea fecked up but ultimately this is a team game. We had 90+ minutes to score against the worst team in the league and we couldn't manage it.
 

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The only miniscule positive is the next game is so close to stop us dwelling on this.

The Tottenham/City combo looking like punchers luck now. Not beating Villa and Everton and losing to this lot. Plus no clean sheet in 13 games is it? Shocking.
 

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Players just did not look motivated and that is down to Ole. Lingarrd and Mctominah were atrocious.

If Lingarrd starts another game i give up.

I am rapidly losing interest in the PL at this rate.
 

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It's honestly not such a surprising result. Watford isn't a worse team than the ones we've been drawing and losing against. We were away were we don't keep clean sheets and barely score goals. We don't come back from 0-1 to win games besides that single game. We don't manage to create chances against teams that defend deep so business as usual.

The best case scenario was a 1-0 win but that wasn't happening today.
 

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I doubt that De Gea will ever find his world class form again. And Lingard should not be in the squad. Angel Gomes must be better than him.

In my eyes, we lost to the worst side in the league. They have a fair keeper and Deulofeu, the rest are really poor.
 

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Strange that a 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go Shaw is allowed to attack and hey we create a few chances... go figure
 

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Can't score, fecking blunt attack. How ole is supposed to manage your keeper palming into his own net, I'll never know. Players fully let him down today.
He should’ve made changes before we went behind. It wasn’t working. Don’t sit on your hands hoping it will change. We sleepwalk through every game we play and then when we inevitably go behind that’s when we start to try and attack. I’d say the players are mostly to blame because that’s been happening a long time but Solskjaer has signed the worst culprit and then and made him captain.
 

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Shocking. Simply unacceptable. Absolutely no excusing that. Whatever it is that produces these kinds of performances has to be got rid of, or we're going to the delightful place called nowhere!
 

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Of course we looked better after Pogba came on, but that's not what good coaching is! Good coaching prepares players to play well in conditions when you don't have your very best individual players to relying upon. There has to be a working, functional tactical system in place that can be efficient and effective against lesser teams than ourselves, especially without Pogba. Simple saying, "give to to Pogba, he'll make something happen", and then banking on the consistency of one individual to do this game-after-game, is an atrocious approach to the game.

Something has to change, and no, not in the boardroom, however true that may be; but within the coaching team as a whole. Specialists, offensive-detailed coaches who can coach patterns of play and replicate it in training so it's visible on the field during actual matches.
 

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I am also sick of seeing Ole sat in his chair doing absolutely nothing. Can’t he bark out some instruction to the useless players on the pitch?

Maybe tell Rashford to stop shooting from 40 yards. Or tell Martial to stay onside. Or tell James to at least try and get himself into the game?

The only player I would rate today was Pogba.
 

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Status quo performance under Ole.

If you back Ole you back results like this. Get over it.
 

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Score Predictions

209,15,29
  • Man Utd win
  • Watford win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 25% Watford 1:2 Man Utd
  • 21% Watford 0:2 Man Utd
  • 12% Watford 1:3 Man Utd
  • 12% Watford 0:3 Man Utd
  • 8% Watford 1:1 Man Utd
  • 5% Watford 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Watford 0:4 Man Utd
  • 2% Watford 2:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Watford 0:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Watford 2:2 Man Utd
  • 2% Watford 1:4 Man Utd
  • 2% Watford 0:5 Man Utd
  • 2% Watford 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Watford 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Watford 3:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Watford 5:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Watford 2:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Watford 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Watford 2:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Watford 4:4 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Watford
  2. Man Utd
Possession
36% 64%
Shots
11 17
Shots on Target
3 8
Corners
3 5
Fouls
16 11

Referee

Lee Mason