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It does seem unlikely. The only possible reason would be because they rate him so highly as a footballer that they think he could take them that next step to wining the title.
If you're that desperate for a title you sign 30 year olds (e.g. Mertens or Vidal), not 19 year olds who will probably need some time to adapt to a new league. I could easily see some form of promise that they will look at good offers a couple of year down the line, like with Sancho, but this is far too much of a financial risk for Dortmund to set a low cap on the profits. Not to mention abandoning their no release clause policy.
 

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Its was obvious from the beginning that Team Haaland had his eyes on Bundesliga as a better choice in this stage of his career. Probably a sensible decision and if the reports are to believed then Alfie made a really good profit as his sons agent, Erling get very well paid and Mino Raiola as usual made a fortune out of almost nothing as a consulting agent. Crazy money but anyway.

It’s a little bit concerning that United send their top brass in a private jet to Salzburg without success. If we can’t attract one of Norways biggest talent with Ole as a manager then serious questions has to be asked. I also don’t like the briefings we do in situation like this to the the British newspapers. It make us look amateurish and bitter. Stop this shit.

If we are attractive enough then a good deal is possible with it without any clauses. It’s easy to suspect that United and Ole wasn’t even an alternative, they only used us to get a better deal from Dortmund. Forget about Raiola’s involvement. Haaland and his father has the last word in any deal so blaming others that the deal is dodgy or expensive is a sign of loser mentality.

Woodward needs to do a statement of intention in January to show he is willing to back Ole to the hilt. At least one addition if we’re serious to challenge for top four. Solskjaer also needs to ask himself why his project isn’t attractive enough to top talents. Haaland has first hand experience with Ole as a manager and United pay top dollar and he still don’t find us attractive enough. That’s alarming signs.
 

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That's really interesting.

There was a journalist on Talksport from Norway a few weeks ago. They asked him about Haaland and about Man. United and all the other interested clubs and he randomly said he could see him signing for Dortmund in this window so guess he was ITK.

Great pick up for them. They lack that through the middle striker they have confidence to start in given Paco Alacaer is more an impact sub so hopefully that will give them the push needed to compete for the title.
 

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But sources also told ESPN that United's interest in the player cooled when it became clear that any deal would involve a share of potential future sale profits between Haaland's father, Alfie, and advisor Mino Raiola. United would also not accept a demand for Haaland to be given a buyout clause for him to move to the club.

As dissappointed I am, players in Manchester United do not have a buyout clause. My hatred for Mino Raiolas advisement have reached peak levels.
And the fact that his dad has been so vocal and involved in his career, you just knew it'd be another circus. Imagine if we hit a patch of poor form and he isn't scoring, his dad will push for a move right quick.
 

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I don't think they're strong enough precedent, tbh. I wouldn't call Hanke really tall when compared to Balotelli & especially Haaland. Also, as I remember it, he played a very mobile & flexible forward role under Favre, which I think is something of a basic requirement. He was at least as much a supporting player as a goalscorer (8 goals in his very good 11/12 season, Reus did the heavy lifting in that department).

De Camargo was okay-ish (and a decent overall footballer), but he only scored 13 goals (9 in BL) in more than two seasons under Favre. Not a blueprint for Haaland either, imo. I'd still say Balotelli is the only successful precedent of a CF similar to Haaland's build over a longer time. We'll see what happens.

Your assessment of the Favre situation is very plausible. I hope he and the team still manage a turnaround in consistency, but it's less than certain.
I mean you can't compare any of his previous clubs with Dortmund. They were basically midtable clubs with or worse with a lot of mediocre players he turned into overachievers often with counter attacking football. At Dortmund he's expected to dominate games and finish top two or even win the title if Bayern are having a bad year.

Hanke is listed as 1.85m, I think that qualifies at tall and Haaland is no donkey either. I could see the Hanke + Reus partnership as a bit of a blue print (one half of it is already at the club after all ;)), Haaland using his strength to drag and bully defenders and open up spaces for Reus (and others) to attack. Though of course with a bit different dynamic between the two, since Haaland is probably a lot more goal hungry than Hanke and Reus has developed into more of a midfielder than the striker he often was at Gladbach.

I haven't seen enough Favre's Nice side to say how he made Balotelli work or how the players there compared to Dortmund's current squad.

It's also somewhat open how the rest of Dortmund's squad will develop. Weigl, Götze, Bruun-Larsen, Dahoud and with the purchase of Haaland perhaps even Alcacer were all named as possible departures. Signing another CM (or two) and a wide player could further shake things up.
 

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Spurs losing out on Dybala with an Argentine manager was even more impressive.
No its not. Dybala is an established big name player not an up and coming 18 year old. Its an indication that even his ex players are not confident in him.
 

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The really sad bastard in all this is that slob Raiola

Sorry we didn't sign Haaland, but ecstatic we finally told the greasy, fat twat to feck off.
He must be really sad with that 15 million. He is probably one of the smartest person in football at the moment.
 

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A bit of a shame we did not get him. I hope it is not just because Rashford, Martial and Greenwood have scored a few in the last games and Ole and the Board decided we do not need another striker as this can mean feck all and we will cry out once they are on a bad run again.
 

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A bit of a shame we did not get him. I hope it is not just because Rashford, Martial and Greenwood have scored a few in the last games and Ole and the Board decided we do not need another striker as this can mean feck all and we will cry out once they are on a bad run again.
Or when one gets injured.

I’m more inclined to believe we won’t accept release clauses and the like.
 

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Pity, life goes on. If you don't want to play for our club, we don't want you here.
 

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In fairness to @hobbers if the choice was Dortmund & ourselves him choosing Dortmund is turning United down.

Either way, with his limited public admiration OgS hasn’t got his man.
Yeah get that but forward positions aren't pressing as midfield for instance so no purpose to cry about it.
 

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That's really interesting.

There was a journalist on Talksport from Norway a few weeks ago. They asked him about Haaland and about Man. United and all the other interested clubs and he randomly said he could see him signing for Dortmund in this window so guess he was ITK.

Great pick up for them. They lack that through the middle striker they have confidence to start in given Paco Alacaer is more an impact sub so hopefully that will give them the push needed to compete for the title.
He said that because Dortmund has a reputation as a good talent factory, and the Bundesliga overall is a tier below the Premier League. So from that perspective it does make complete sense.

Marcus Rashford, Mason Greenwood, Brandon Williams all having breakout seasons. Ours isn't exactly a lot worse than Dortmunds.
 

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We needed him, we didn't get him. I think it's as simple and as sad as that, but the life goes on, we're not in the best position to attract players so I guess we'll need to be more patient in getting good players in.
Maybe we already have couple of good strikers after all in Rashford and Greenwood, perhaps is best to wait for better days before spending.
 

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It's not cheap, and I'm not happy about it.

First in what will probably be a long line of players who will choose to go somewhere else because they don't care for the idea of being part of Ole's project.
It is a bit and the second line is cheap too. Cheers.
 

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Just to satisfy my own curiosity and, obviously, prove myself wrong, could we add a poll to the thread asking if people have actually ever watched this guy play?

Banging in goals in Austria is even easier than in Holland, probably more at a Belgian/danish level and hopefully none of you would want to sign a player doing it in those leagues.
 

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He might, but I expect Haaland would want to be playing instead of Martial.
I expect Haaland would want to be playing instead of Alcacer as well but it won't be easy to drop him either. 26 goals in 47 appearances isn't too shoddy. I'm not saying Haaland is the answer but we do need competition for CF not just backup.
 

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I expect Haaland would want to be playing instead of Alcacer as well but it won't be easy to drop him either. 26 goals in 47 appearances isn't too shoddy. I'm not saying Haaland is the answer but we do need competition for CF not just backup.
We'll find someone who doesn't see the club as a stepping stone hopefully.
 

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I expect Haaland would want to be playing instead of Alcacer as well but it won't be easy to drop him either. 26 goals in 47 appearances isn't too shoddy. I'm not saying Haaland is the answer but we do need competition for CF not just backup.
Maybe, but we shouldn't be bending over for an agent/rep like him. He is nothing but trouble.
 

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We don't even need him.
Focus on Midfield and RW
 

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I expect Haaland would want to be playing instead of Alcacer as well but it won't be easy to drop him either. 26 goals in 47 appearances isn't too shoddy. I'm not saying Haaland is the answer but we do need competition for CF not just backup.
Most of those are as sub. Alacaer has not started v Hoffenheim, Leipzig, Barca, Inter or Bayern Munich this season.

Haaland will be first choice.
 

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Had a feeling it would be Dortmund where he would end up before making the big step in his career. They seem to be the number one step stone club for most major talents in football these days and I can understand why.
 

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Dortmund's top earner is Reus, supposedly on €10-12m a year gross wages. You're quoting a guy who either thinks Dortmund are going to make Haaland their top earner by a mile or who is incapable of distinguishing between gross and net.
Italians always report wages net. He's not a British journalist mate.
 

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Why are people saying a forward should be one of our last priorities? When Martial was out we looked woeful we need backups and rotation players . Anyway smart move for his career would of liked him
 

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The parents getting involved is wrong.

Imagine someone guilt tripping their 18 year old kid by saying... "You don't love me as much as Neymar loves his dad"

F*ck these stage parents... and get them out of the game. If the kid wants to give the parents money later, that is their right.
 

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Why are people saying a forward should be one of our last priorities? When Martial was out we looked woeful we need backups and rotation players . Anyway smart move for his career would of liked him
People think Greenwood is ready for the number 9 spot which he isn't. Rashford is gash there too so yeah we need another striker and it seems Ole agrees.