Players rarely talk about their injuries in football and we rarely have details about anything. But in this case, his injury has been mentioned in France. As for the fecking off to France, he went to a charity event that he organized a long time ago, you exepected him to cancel?
Is Pogba as good as gone?
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Absolutely love this post and it's so true - we had initially tried to make Pogba the centre of our midfield, playing deep and doing the hard work & it never really worked.
He never was good enough for that type of thing & was more a flashy player you play further up the pitch when you have a core engine sorted out in the middle of the park.
Unfortunately us - this is arguably the first season we have even something even remotely resembling this with mctomminay & Fred playing deeper and yet Pogba hasn't had the chance to play further up the pitch - it is all really looking too late.
Pogba really is a player we should have bought once we had the engine sorted & once again our engine isn't really all that strong apart from one or two players either.
I don't think its common for clubs to give daily/weekly detailed information on injured players. But in this case there actually has been some detail given, not much but some. The club posted this statement in October for example: https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/paul-pogba-ruled-out-for-a-month-due-to-injury
And after the Arsenal match Solskjær stated quite clearly that after getting a second opinion, Pogba and his team decided that it would be best to have another operation ASAP, so he'll be out for another month or so now.
Also, if I remember correctly when Shaw and Martial dealt with injuries for a few weeks we weren't given much detail on their injuries either. Martial was originally slated to be out for about a month, but it actually took him two months to recover from his injuries. Shaw even longer. We haven't been given much detail on McTominay's injury either, first it was "a few weeks" and then all of a sudden he'll be out for "a few months".
He doesn't "live on social media". He doesn't even post that much anymore, if you check his Instagram you'll see he rarely posts pictures more than twice a week. He's a family man so a lot of his pictures are of his brothers, girlfriend and their young child. That's pretty normal. Most people on social media post pictures like that. Every now and then there are sponsored posts but they're not that many, and I doubt Pogba himself posts the sponsored pictures, that's probaly his PR team that take care of those.
Also he's posted a few videos of himself during the rehab. Which to me says he was been working on his fitness and getting back. He doesn't have to give out an official statement on a regular basis, he posted a couple of videos exercising, that should be enough. Just let him just focus on his rehab in peace.
Raiola always talks shit. I'm not sure what you want Pogba to do, he isn't Raiola's mother. It's not Pogba's job to put him on a leash he says something you don't like.
He didn't "feck off to France", he did a charity event with the clubs permission.
Lastly, I don't think he'll talk shite about the club when he leaves. He didn't talk shite about us while he was at Juve and he hasn't talked shite about Juve since re-signing for us. And as far as I know he hasn't spoken shite about any former or current teammate. Believe it or not Pogba is actually a professional and respectful individual, he's not this evil cartoon villain person you think he is.
Maybe recruit Dr Eva Carneiro, now that Mourinho is no longer here.
Professional bumming about the world instead of reporting for duty and solving this “mysterious” ankle injury once and for all.
So you think if he stays here for the next 5 years and we carry on the struggle to get top 4 hes going to go down as a United legend? I'm all for buying into a project which is what he was sold by coming from Juve but arguably we've got worst since. I pity you if you believe the current structure at the club is going to pay dividends in a few years.
Oh guys, of course he doesn't fake his injure to not play, that'd be breach of contract with heavy fines.
Imo this injure sounds exactly like the mysterious injure with Herrera last season. Both sides just need a reason for him to not play anymore this Jan. This means a move is in negotiation imo. If the move is not finalized by end Jan, guess this mysterious injure will be sorted just in time so he can be back playing once Jan is over. He'd need to play regularily for a slot in the coming Euro anyway.
As I've said in another thread. This situation is pretty the same to a situation where your gf is a super hot chich, kinda like Megan Fox in her prime. However she ain't give a shit about you but only your pocket. She occasionally shows you the tits to remind you how hot she is but only let you shag her once a year.
Worse, despite the fact you gave her a luxury life, the best a chick could dream for she still constantly tell you how bad her life is because of how crap you are. If it wasn't for you she'd be some Hollywood superstar blah blah. Then she processes to actively look for a new guy and blatantly make sure you'd know about.
If you were this guy, what you'd do tbh ?
Imo this injure sounds exactly like the mysterious injure with Herrera last season. Both sides just need a reason for him to not play anymore this Jan. This means a move is in negotiation imo. If the move is not finalized by end Jan, guess this mysterious injure will be sorted just in time so he can be back playing once Jan is over. He'd need to play regularily for a slot in the coming Euro anyway.
As I've said in another thread. This situation is pretty the same to a situation where your gf is a super hot chich, kinda like Megan Fox in her prime. However she ain't give a shit about you but only your pocket. She occasionally shows you the tits to remind you how hot she is but only let you shag her once a year.
Worse, despite the fact you gave her a luxury life, the best a chick could dream for she still constantly tell you how bad her life is because of how crap you are. If it wasn't for you she'd be some Hollywood superstar blah blah. Then she processes to actively look for a new guy and blatantly make sure you'd know about.
If you were this guy, what you'd do tbh ?
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Please stop this. We're fans, we look at it from that perspective. He hasn't been good enough during his time here, and he's been disrespectful to the club. Do you think he takes the time to consider fans perspective?
Professionalism isn't that much to ask for. If he believes he has some devine right to play for winning teams he and his loud mouth agent should have inserted a clause in his contract.
He's not being held hostage at the club. It was understood that if Real paid a suitable fee he could go in this window. No one wants to pay up and he's trying to force the club to sell him at a cut price.
We even now have articles saying Pogba played through pain for Watford. A true circus. The Raiola effect.
We really should be more careful about selecting our players -- and managers.
We really should be more careful about selecting our players -- and managers.
I'll get rid of him just to get away from Riola.
He's not even that good to justify us dealing with Riola.
He's not even that good to justify us dealing with Riola.
The ignorance of the basics of injuring yourself on here are astounding.
The Megan Fox theory is feeling right.
Best is to now make the most money out of him and reinvest it like City, i.e. buy two 50 million prospects and coach them well to play the way we want and hope at least one succeeds.
Best is to now make the most money out of him and reinvest it like City, i.e. buy two 50 million prospects and coach them well to play the way we want and hope at least one succeeds.
Who is going to coach them? Let alone coach them well. What way do we even want to play?
Pogba will go and we'll if we're lucky make some utterly average signing, which we'll pay over the odds for. But at least the "virus" will be gone eh.
Wonder if there will be a climb down from all the Pogba obsessives when he actually fecks off following a miraculous recovery
Ah actually they’ll probably all be supporting Real by that point.
The parallel with Herrera’s mystery injury above is spot on. Combine this with everything Raiola is saying, everything Pogba himself is doing and everything else which has led to this point and it’s quite tragic how you have people still believing the current situation as portrayed is legit and Pogba and his agent have done no wrong.
Ah actually they’ll probably all be supporting Real by that point.
The parallel with Herrera’s mystery injury above is spot on. Combine this with everything Raiola is saying, everything Pogba himself is doing and everything else which has led to this point and it’s quite tragic how you have people still believing the current situation as portrayed is legit and Pogba and his agent have done no wrong.
He isn't going anywhere and will get back once he is healed to show what he is worth.
Pogba doesnt need to play regularly to get into the France team.
He will play 3/4 matches before the end of the season and he will be ready.
I’d be angry with Pogba’s attitude if it weren’t for most of us sharing that attitude of this club being a complete joke and waste of effort in its current guise.
The Times saying the players believe he'll be gone in the summer for sure. His price will be 150 million, if no one pays it, he can stay and rot. But he'll be gone for sure.
Nobody is going to sign him in January just before he has surgery again.
Unless he does something decent on the pitch between now and the summer, he'll for sure go down as Man Utds worst ever signing.
Nobody is going to sign him in January just before he has surgery again.
Unless he does something decent on the pitch between now and the summer, he'll for sure go down as Man Utds worst ever signing.
You'd have to be a big old mug to be angry about Pogba's frustrations with the club when every fan with any sense feels exactly the same.
Sanchez was comfortably worse. It's not even close.
He's not that assured yet imo.
He'd need to play regularly and have some good form at least 1-2 months prior to the Euro I think. If he doesn't play at all or not in good form I'd doubt Deschamps gonna pick him. Maybe he still picks him just in case but definitely not gonna start him imo.
France just happens to have considerable options in midfield and their attack is great even without Pogba. Especially this Euro they'll give Martial a call as well imo.
P/s: of course I could be wrong about the Pogba situation and I really hope I'm wrong tbh. He's such talented player and we really need him. However regarding him never was or is a patient guy and all what has happened recently he'll leave sooner or later imo.
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This is the caf, only fans are allowed to feel that way.
World class players who have been promised things by the good ole Ed are not allowed to feel that way.
If I was in his shoes, coming to the prime of his career and looking around you have Fred, Shaw, Lingard and two inconsistent forwards, I would want to leave the club too, even if I loved the club.
Especially, when you have been brought with a promise to bring the club back to its former glories and it shows a total lack of ambition.
If we could get £150m for him I would gladly take it. But if we do I hope that is not going to be our only money I hope whatever we get for Pogba if he is sold is added to the existing budget and spend wisely and we buy a few players who want to be here.
Let's say our goodbyes, cash in, and move on.
We're not matching the potential and ambition of this player. A proven talent. Right club, right player, wrong time.
We're a big club. We deal with it and move on.
OGS hasn't a clue what's happening.
We're not matching the potential and ambition of this player. A proven talent. Right club, right player, wrong time.
We're a big club. We deal with it and move on.
OGS hasn't a clue what's happening.
A DOF with the proper vision and a coach who players believe will improve them and put them in positions to win, are force multipliers in attracting players to come play for the club. Even if United are run by total incompetent muppets, a reputable manager would attract good talent. No emerging or established player is saying I want to go and develop under OGS...so this 'get players who want to be here' is just another example of lazy analysis.
His ambition is win big trophies, and challenge for league title, play in the CL. We're miles off from any of that. You'd have to be pretty deluded to think otherwise.
Some posters here have really lost it.
fecking hell
Where do these idiots come from?
Haven't the time or inclination to address this mess.
Are there any United fans on this forum these days?
At the risk of upsetting a minority. We are in a worse situation than Arsenal when Van Persie joined us because he wanted to finally win things. At the time United fans had no issue with RVP's point of view.
Pogba doesn’t have the mentality for that. He’s another Balotelli. Thinks he’s better than he is too.
Nonsense, he's one of the best paid players in the world, I'd expect him to be professional and get on with it.
Trade Pogba for Toni Kroos and Bale + cash.
Use the cash to overbid for Grealish
Use the cash to overbid for Grealish
Don't think we will be getting a DoF while Woodward is about. I think he has too high an opinion of his own abilities for that to happen. A different manager maybe able to attract players but whether Woodward is competent enough to sign them or willing to back said manager us another question. That part in bold is spot on.
An other Balotelli? What makes him remotely comparable to Balotelli?
Oh, come on. He's already been a key player in teams that have won their domestic leagues, cups, reached a CL final, a Euros final, and won a World Cup. How on earth is he like Balotelli?
Hyperbole much @Champagne Football
We signed ADM, he did absolutely feck all, won absolutely feck all, and then we lost money on him
Nar.... plenty of players departed Arsenal every year for the same reason. RVP, Sanchez, hell even Henry.
Pogba was promised one thing and the current reality is something quite different, just as in every walk of life, he has every right to be fuming with the state of the club and wasting his Prime years finishing 5th-6th in the Premier League.
I'm not saying we're close.
He was recruited specifically to help with that. He is part of the problem. He is not bigger than the club. We're not here to accomodate him. He's paid to do a job that he is failing to do.
Pretty much. We don't have to like or cheer for it but people should be able to understand, that's what happens to teams languishing between 4th and 7th. That's why we got Carrick, Berbatov, Rooney, Van Persie and many other players.