That some people thinking him scoring there means the criticism of him has been unjustified probably means they shouldn't get to talk about footy
If you play to Romelu’s strengths he will score for fun! Jose brought him to the club and wanted wide players that would provide for him...whether this was the ‘United way’ is debatable but it’s how Jose would have got success!
Ed knew better though- vetoed all Jose’s wishes and around we go again!
Are you joking?10000000 %
There was a method to Jose's madness and why he wanted Perisic and William.
If you cant see the vision in that where are you looking.
As for Inter..why we never looked at Brozovic? He is one of the best midfielders in the world today
I agree with you. Ed should have got Willian. I have always said that the "so called United way" is one of the problems managers have to face as an obstacle at United. All these pundits and ex players and fans talking about it. I wanted Lukaku replaced in the end because you know that his heart is not in it anymore. But all players need the right kind of system for them to work. It works for him for Belgium and now at Inter. Yes you could say Napoli gifted both goals but he still had a lot to do for his first goal.If you play to Romelu’s strengths he will score for fun! Jose brought him to the club and wanted wide players that would provide for him...whether this was the ‘United way’ is debatable but it’s how Jose would have got success!
Ed knew better though- vetoed all Jose’s wishes and around we go again!
So if jose wanted to implement his vision he shouldnt have wasted money on Mikhi, Sanchez and Matic and actually signed that player we needed?10000000 %
There was a method to Jose's madness and why he wanted Perisic and William.
If you cant see the vision in that where are you looking.
As for Inter..why we never looked at Brozovic? He is one of the best midfielders in the world today
This is why you can’t take this forum seriously10000000 %
There was a method to Jose's madness and why he wanted Perisic and William.
If you cant see the vision in that where are you looking.
As for Inter..why we never looked at Brozovic? He is one of the best midfielders in the world today
I guess the operative phrase is "...based on his form for Inter and Belgium", but I don't think that's an accurate way to gauge him from United's perspective. In the premier league season:He is probably a top 5-10 central forward in the world based on his form for Inter and Belgium.
We do badly miss him even if it didn't work for him here.
People calling him crap has no clue about football or just want to overreact for the sake of it.
That's because he is, they actually made him drop weight and work hard to be in better shape.Was very good last night. Conte clearly knows how to get the best out of him. Also he just looks so much fitter than with us.
He said that it was hard to shed the bulk that he added that he said was effective for Belgium, but didn’t suit the EPL. More recently he’s blamed a digestive issue.That's because he is, theya actually made him drop weight and work hard to be in better shape.
I don't know why we don't have similar or even higher standards at United
That makes no sense though, why would the club agree to let him on a dumb ass bulk when the guy was a physical freak for football ? He came back from the WC heavier and stayed heavy basically throughout the entire season. 2-3 months into it, he should have been in better, what we did was a joke.He said that it was hard to shed the bulk that he added that he said was effective for Belgium, but didn’t suit the EPL. More recently he’s blamed a digestive issue.
Considering he’s made it clear that he lost motivation in terms of playing for us, I’d say it’s just as likely because of that, and that he’s just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks in terms of absolving himself in the public eye.
Nothing makes sense, to be honest. It doesn’t make sense that we couldn’t spot his being too heavy, and it was mentioned in the press by himself as something he was working on. Out of interest, which way are you leaning? Digestive issues? Incompetent fitness staff?That makes no sense though, why would the club agree to let him on a dumb ass bulk when the guy was a physical freak for football ? He came back from the WC heavier and stayed heavy basically throughout the entire season. 2-3 months into it, he should have been in better, what we did was a joke.
Digestive issues seem like a typical PR move tbh. If you look at our track record in terms of fitness, players being available or not, I think there are some serious questions that need answers. Luke Shaw is another whose fitness levels are very suspect.Nothing makes sense, to be honest. It doesn’t make sense that we couldn’t spot his being too heavy, and it was mentioned in the press by himself as something he was working on. Out of interest, which way are you leaning? Digestive issues? Incompetent fitness staff?
Nah, it was more to do with Inters really slow build up playHe is. It was more to do with Napoli's mistakes than Lukaku's ability
Is it?Nah, it was more to do with Inters really slow build up play
He's a goalscorer who puts our current crop to shame, could have done with him this season without doubt.
Or maybe Inter have proper coaches rather then give the jobs to the boys and sticking to incompetent peopleDigestive issues went away soon as he was motivated to prove himself elsewhere
Strange way to talk about joseOr maybe Inter have proper coaches rather then give the jobs to the boys and sticking to incompetent people
It won't be. None of them are anywhere near good enough to play as RW. Martial is playing well as 9 and Rashford is playing best season of his career as goal scoring LW.There are lots of versions why he left. From what i understand he wanted to leave after Ole started to playing him on a right wing because he didn't think that our style suits him. And many posters here thought that also.
So my question is; how the hell he is excellent in Inter( stats don't lie) who basically play the same style like we are ( trying to do). Deep defence and counter attack.
I like Martial a lot on no9 but Martial-Lukaku-Rashford attack would be great to have
Well he said he is a goalscorer and you for some reason (everybody knows that reason) started with assists and goals from open play only to make Lukaku look bad. Well it is amazing how people need to hate our ex players to justify some manager decisions and this was one of the worst, specially when we didnt have an adequate replacement.Is it?
He scored 14 league goals in 18 games (1526 mins), with 11 from open play and 1 assist. 127 mins per G+A from open play.
Marital scored 7 league goals in 15 (1198 mins), and 3 assists. 119 mins per G+A.
Even if you include all penalties, everything. Lukaku has contributed to 15 goals, Rashford 16 goals.
Amazing how overrated players become once they leave the club.
In all competitions.
Lukaku - 19 G+A
Rashford - 21 G+A
Martial - 13 G+A
Greenwood - 11 G+A
It's not Lukaku we are missing, it's proper CM and attacking midfielder.
is definitely true and you cant do anything about that. Lukaku is top CF and it was a huge mistake to prioritize Rashford in front of him. Rashford is better on the right or left, definitely not the center and Martial is hit or miss, even though he is for me our best finisher and best player from the offensive line.He's a goalscorer who puts our current crop to shame
He's playing in a significantly weaker league. Lukaku's problem in England was scoring against the top 6, for Everton and United. His record against those sides was absolutely abysmal, that's about 25% - 30% of the games you play in England. As you can see from the UEFA coefficients, the best sides in Italy are much closer to France and Portugal in terms of quality than they are to England or Spain. He basically gets to flat track bully a lot more in Italy.There are lots of versions why he left. From what i understand he wanted to leave after Ole started to playing him on a right wing because he didn't think that our style suits him. And many posters here thought that also.
So my question is; how the hell he is excellent in Inter( stats don't lie) who basically play the same style like we are ( trying to do). Deep defence and counter attack.
I like Martial a lot on no9 but Martial-Lukaku-Rashford attack would be great to have
Justify what?Well he said he is a goalscorer and you for some reason (everybody knows that reason) started with assists and goals from open play only to make Lukaku look bad. Well it is amazing how people need to hate our ex players to justify some manager decisions and this was one of the worst, specially when we didnt have an adequate replacement.
So Rashford scored 12 goals in 1823 minutes in PL = 152 minutes per goal, without penalty kicks it is just 8 goals = from open play he scores every 227 mins.
Martial scored 7 goals in 1198 mins in PL = 171 minutes per goal (from open play, because he didnt score any penalty kick in PL)
Lukaku scored 14 goals in 1526 mins in Seria A = 109 minutes per goal, without penalty kicks it is just 11 goals = from open play he scores every 138 mins. Btw they had like 3-4 penalty kicks he didnt take.
And Lukaku was awesome for us? He was even more hit and miss. Do people have such shit memory that they don't even remember that he averaged like 1 goal or less per month after his initial 7 games when he scored 7 or 8 goals?So this quote is definitely true and you cant do anything about that. Lukaku is top CF and it was a huge mistake to prioritize Rashford in front of him. Rashford is better on the right or left, definitely not the center and Martial is hit or miss, even though he is for me our best finisher and best player from the offensive line.
Whilst I don't doubt our need for the aforementioned players, Lukaku has been in top form this season, scoring at will in the league, we could definitely do with him.Is it?
He scored 14 league goals in 18 games (1526 mins), with 11 from open play and 1 assist. 127 mins per G+A from open play.
Marital scored 7 league goals in 15 (1198 mins), and 3 assists. 119 mins per G+A.
Even if you include all penalties, everything. Lukaku has contributed to 15 goals, Rashford 16 goals.
Amazing how overrated players become once they leave the club.
In all competitions.
Lukaku - 19 G+A
Rashford - 21 G+A
Martial - 13 G+A
Greenwood - 11 G+A
It's not Lukaku we are missing, it's proper CM and attacking midfielder.
He is doing that playing for 2nd best team in italy, which is worse league than PL.Whilst I don't doubt our need for the aforementioned players, Lukaku has been in top form this season, scoring at will in the league, we could definitely do with him.
His first goal last night was stunning.
He's playing in a new league for a new team in a new country, yet the same outcome as wherever he's been.
Not overrated, underrated.
Yeah, we'll discount his goal against Barca, and against Napoli last night because they didn't beat Liverpool recently.He's playing in a significantly weaker league. Lukaku's problem in England was scoring against the top 6, for Everton and United. His record against those sides was absolutely abysmal, that's about 25% - 30% of the games you play in England. As you can see from the UEFA coefficients, the best sides in Italy are much closer to France and Portugal in terms of quality than they are to England or Spain. He basically gets to flat track bully a lot more in Italy.
https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/#/yr/2020
Dude, I have absolutly no idea why you are so salty and rude. Justify what? Maybe letting Lukaku go without an adequate replacement, I have already said that.Justify what?
Well it's amazing how clueless and desperate people are that they leave assists which is direct contribution to goal.
I have already debunked the "Lukaku is a born goalscorer" nonsense. You just need a bit of thinking to do instead of following like a sheep.
I will give you a hint instead of posting it again, check the league goals and check how many goals he averages per season.
And Lukaku was awesome for us? He was even more hit and miss. Do people have such shit memory that they don't even remember that he averaged like 1 goal or less per month after his initial 7 games when he scored 7 or 8 goals?
So much for a good goalscorer that he couldn't even average 1 league goal per month.
This is the problem. They definitely don’t paint anything like the full picture. There were lots of Inter fans questioning what the hell they’d bought for 80m.( stats don't lie)
Even if he scores well for Inter, it shouldn't matter for us. In PL he was averaging 14-16 goals and he scored same for us. Maybe that's his level in PL but suited for Serie A.This is the problem. They definitely don’t paint anything like the full picture. There were lots of Inter fans questioning what the hell they’d bought for 80m.
At the moment he’s balancing out the bad (which the stats probably don’t show) with the goals. We’ll see what happens if he loses motivation again, or the fans air some grievances.
Yeah, we'll discount his goal against Barca, and against Napoli last night because they didn't beat Liverpool recently.
My word,
He can only score what's in front of him, that's what he's doing. And doing very well.
I'd rather my striker get 20 plus goals a season rather than 5 against the top sides.
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Things soured once Faria left only to be replaced by dumb and dumberStrange way to talk about jose
Spot on. This is absolutely true whether one rates Lukaku or not.That's because he is, theya actually made him drop weight and work hard to be in better shape.
I don't know why we don't have similar or even higher standards at United