With a profit of 609 million does it justify haggling on 10 million?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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‘Rumours’ heh. We’ve been linked with half of Europe through ‘rumours’ in the last couple of years.
Of course it does, it would be negligent not to!!
You must have nightmares about Williams becoming the next Dennis Irwin.
Sure it does, £10m is a lot of money even for a club the size of ours.
The point is between the summer and now is when these things should have been resolved. Not whilst the window is open
What if the time spent haggling the £10m, could secure us additional players instead? Would you still hold the same opinion?
Paredes or Veratti
We haven't made a profit of anything like 609m. Best not to confuse profit with turnover
I’m glad you’re not running out club. So what if every transfer we make we pay £10m more than necessary just to get the signing in.
i get what you’re saying but negotiations are necessary.
Correct.
£10m is feck all compared to the loss of revenue from not making the Champions League. And due to our failure to sign the midfielder/s we need in the summer, that's where we're at.
Probably going on holiday. Now's as good a time as any
I’m tired of ya getting rinsed so happy to see actually negotiating and not just saying yes to absurd wages etc. Woodward spent too long doing that culminating in players arriving who had no real desire to be here. Will take a good few years of this before agents and clubs don’t expect us to just bend over.
If the new player cost £10m we'd be getting him for free if we haggled so yes!!
2 can play the hypothetical game
We only had a profit of £18m in 2019, so £10m is a big deal!
Nonsense. ‘Buy more players at higher prices” is a perfectly reasonable model.
They are however we take far too long as we saw in the summer
I would love that. Denis Irwin is by Far the best full back we had in my lifetime
By all accounts the deal has not changed for Bruno since last summer. He was available for ~£60m then and he's available for the same amount now reportedly. We're not haggling over £10m with Bruno. More like haggling over <£5m/trying to include players that are valuable with such a short squad. It's moronic.
What i'm saying is, we're in the middle of an injury crisis (since before the window opened), our squad planning was abysmal, just pay the fee and move on to different targets, instead of haggling over a few £m. It makes no sense, analysing from the football side.
Explains why we gave Jones and Mata new contracts...
Do you want to see us actually win or make money for shareholders? This incessant haggling over each target is detrimental to the football side.If the new player cost £10m we'd be getting him for free if we haggled so yes!!
2 can play the hypothetical game
Exactly. Haggle over £10m, give it back to Jones, Mata, Young & Lingard. Our time and resources are definitely being managed impeccably.
What really gets to me is that once more Woodward seems to be phaffing about over a transfer we need to get over the line. We are so poor these days in wrapping up targets and thats not down to Ole as all managers since Fergie have suffered In the same way. At this stage of the transfer window it Is quite pathetic.
The morons on twitter because he trained with Sporting today 
I can't envisage a reason why Andreas would want to move to Portugal midseason
If it somehow happens then surely his loan fee has to be factored in for a few million. Sporting have no chance of buying him outright, their record fee spent is on Bas Dost at €12M
If it somehow happens then surely his loan fee has to be factored in for a few million. Sporting have no chance of buying him outright, their record fee spent is on Bas Dost at €12M
Problem is, come the end of the window, Woodward will bend over eventually, so what then? He is in a lose/lose position right now. He has to accept it and pay the fees to make us successful again.
The only way this will ever end is when we start being successful again and can invest from a position of strength.
What's happening then? Is the deal still on or off?
If Bruno cost £60m but we were only prepared to go to £50m would that not also be negligent if the club really wanted him? The difference between finishing top 6 or top 4 is potentially worth a lot more than £10m.
Stupid Ed, negotiating over a price. I mean who does that.
‘ long way apart,’ in negotiations. This really means it’ll go the distance but they’ll find a price.
They won’t want to keep an unhappy player
They won’t want to keep an unhappy player
I can't imagine Pereria would be best pleased going in the middle of a season in which he's started the majority of games for Man United, to play for Sporting Lisbon, having been on loan at bigger clubs than Sporting previously in his career. Bullshit link.
I want to see us win and make money, its highly unlikely you can only have one but most football fans just focus on the football side (which is understandable).
Its perfectly normal practice to haggle. Its not a computer game and its not as simple as us rocking up to the owners office and saying: "we'll give you £60m, is that alright?" shake hands and the player transfers.
There's all sorts of elements to go through. Its like buying a company, the due diligence and legal side of the transaction is massive, there's a number of contracts to navigate through, not just the players contract and the purchase agreement.
I wouldnt even say he is unhappy. Certainly didnt look it in the last match. By all accounts he was very keen to go to spurs last summer, he didnt, and just got on with it. I think thats what he'd do now. But the deal should happen tbh
Yes it would but the club has a value they're willing to go to and if that value is less than Sporting are willing to sell for then its about finding the middle ground, and in any case only a moron would turn up and pay (or accept) the first price quoted!
Your confidence is rubbing off on me
Stupid Ed should have been doing that in November/December infact he should have been doing it since July since we were in contact with his agent over the summer
I get it. Just one more thing to complain about.
Or a valid point about how we handled transfers, we are no where near being efficient and it would be nice if we had planned something for Jan way before the window opened given the need. To be fair we did try with Haaland, but I believe midfield was more pressing
Haggling makes no sense now because Bruno is worth £60m. A cheaper #10 would be Uruguayan Giorgian de Arrascaeta who plays for Flamengo. But we're not after the cheaper player; so we should pay the £60m to £65m they want. Plus: we need Bruno ASAP.
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