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Ed Woodward's house attacked by 20-30 balaclava wearing "United fans"
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Well, they’ve admitted to what they’ve been accused of. Of course they’re going to spin it.
Why didn't the Sun reporter phone the police whilst the protest was happening?
He was to busy organising it.
I am no defender of Woodward but how does his house being vandalised lose him credibility?
it's The Sun mate. It's like asking your dog why he shit on the carpet.
Nobody misses you in Denmark, pal.
The Sun newspaper may have to hire Neil Ashton as a PR consultant
The more information comes out regarding this is the more of a setup it appears to be.
I dont think Neil thought this one all the way through, he will end up being the fall guy if this is investigated seriously.
I dont think Neil thought this one all the way through, he will end up being the fall guy if this is investigated seriously.
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“BREAKING EXCLUSIVE. THE SUN’S HOUSE VICIOUSLY ATTACKED BY 50 DAILY MAIL HOOLIGANS”
Yeah this just smells a bit, knowing what The Sun has been up to over the years.
How do you get a connection like that in the first place? Do a riotmaker call up a Sun journalist? Does he call the main-number?
If you do it you're probably a bit thick to begin with, but you'd also know you'd be tracked and traced a lot? But do you do it because you want it reported to the World to see that you're standing up to Ed? I think most would just turn up and not call a journo, risking jailtime. Bizarre case
Don’t hooligans hate journos to begin with?
Well yes. That's what Elijah Wood, the West Ham hooligan told me
A Neil Ashton exclusive: Daily Mail got a tip off from a Daily Mail reading hooligan that they were going to VICIOUSLY ATTACK Neil Ashton's house
I actually based my opinion off that
Yes. They probably never leave their apartments anyway.
He has no reason to leave because of this.
It is not a PR stunt ffs 
Where is your proof?It is not a PR stunt ffs
I'd say the evidence stacks in favour of it being a PR stunt.
What frequency are you on mate, can anybody tune in?
I honestly thought that ravi was joking. Apparently not.
Totally agree, Ed should have been there, heading the flares away like a proper man.
I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist but this reeks.
United hire a Sun journalist as head of PR
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About a week later a 'mob' (only 2 or 3 on film) attack/protest at a property Woodward owns
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This mob had apparently tipped off the Sun beforehand (why? you can use Twitter for worldwide coverage) who proceed to not inform the police (illegal?) but film barely any of it (bad reporting)
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The Sun release a story about Woodward's home being attacked by 20-30 men, inevitable sympathy from a wider audience for the victim, Woodward
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The 'gonna die, gonna die' chants continue at the next game, even with a new signing
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The story resurfaces as now 'Man Utd' want to know why The Sun didn't report it to the police (illegal if the story of a 30 man gang is true, a lot less illegal if it was 2 men with a flare). This recycling of the story gains another round of sympathy for Woodward.
Am I missing anything? All roads point to Woodward and Ashton.
Sure there's plausible deniability, yeah the fans hate Ed, sure there's enough of them angry enough to find a property he doesn't live at and protest outside it, it's also reasonable to assume that getting on the back page of the Sun was their aim and perhaps the journalist they contacted knew the family wouldn't be there so no real, nasty crime could take place.
However, a sympathy piece with hints of manufacture in the press about a villified, desperate man a week after he'd hired a PR guru? Stinks. Absolutely stinks.
United hire a Sun journalist as head of PR
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About a week later a 'mob' (only 2 or 3 on film) attack/protest at a property Woodward owns
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This mob had apparently tipped off the Sun beforehand (why? you can use Twitter for worldwide coverage) who proceed to not inform the police (illegal?) but film barely any of it (bad reporting)
>
The Sun release a story about Woodward's home being attacked by 20-30 men, inevitable sympathy from a wider audience for the victim, Woodward
>
The 'gonna die, gonna die' chants continue at the next game, even with a new signing
>
The story resurfaces as now 'Man Utd' want to know why The Sun didn't report it to the police (illegal if the story of a 30 man gang is true, a lot less illegal if it was 2 men with a flare). This recycling of the story gains another round of sympathy for Woodward.
Am I missing anything? All roads point to Woodward and Ashton.
Sure there's plausible deniability, yeah the fans hate Ed, sure there's enough of them angry enough to find a property he doesn't live at and protest outside it, it's also reasonable to assume that getting on the back page of the Sun was their aim and perhaps the journalist they contacted knew the family wouldn't be there so no real, nasty crime could take place.
However, a sympathy piece with hints of manufacture in the press about a villified, desperate man a week after he'd hired a PR guru? Stinks. Absolutely stinks.
Given the Sun interviewed the culprits, as well as having a photographer present, I’d imagine the culprits will be brought to justice soon.
"How's the campaign to restore my image going, Neil?"
"Great, Ed - fans used to hate you, but now they hate you and think you're a criminal mastermind. And also a particularly incompetent criminal mastermind who's crap at his day-job."
"You're f*cking fired again, Neil."
"Great, Ed - fans used to hate you, but now they hate you and think you're a criminal mastermind. And also a particularly incompetent criminal mastermind who's crap at his day-job."
"You're f*cking fired again, Neil."
False flags and psy ops... to deny that this occur would be foolish.. the classic hegelian dialect principle of problem - reaction- solution.. but the solution usually always benefits those (in power)..
With that being said, wether this being fake or not, it doesnt take away from the fact that this should not stop constructive criticism towards the board for bad decisions. What this incident does is differentiate between appropiate and inappropiate actions taken by fans. Nobody agrees that attacking any official from any club (in his personal space) equates to constructive criticism. Yes, any attack like this one should be critized by any rational fan, but at the same time, it shouldnt be an ‘emphatic’ tool being used to silence criticism. Balance is key.
With that being said, wether this being fake or not, it doesnt take away from the fact that this should not stop constructive criticism towards the board for bad decisions. What this incident does is differentiate between appropiate and inappropiate actions taken by fans. Nobody agrees that attacking any official from any club (in his personal space) equates to constructive criticism. Yes, any attack like this one should be critized by any rational fan, but at the same time, it shouldnt be an ‘emphatic’ tool being used to silence criticism. Balance is key.
Common sense?
Didn't know the Caf had so many flat earthers until the last few days
Idk- don’t believe Ed set it up. Instead I wonder how many it’ll take for Ed to pull the trigger on our next signing? If Sancho (highly unlikely) Id imagine 50-75 masked men?
Conspiracy theorists need to put down the crack pipe
I’m not. If there’s one thing the caf can get behind, it’s a good conspiracy theory.
I'm amazed this has amassed 31 pages!
Manchester United and common sense don't go together.
Fixed.
Do you believe in ghost?
It is not a PR stunt ffs
Does it really matter? People are talking about and it's creating further negative publicity for Ashton and Woodward.
This thread title looks really weird to me. I read it as 20-30 balaclava attacked Woodward's house. And those balaclava were wearing 'United fans'.
If you want the title to make sense, it should have a hyphen between the words 'balaclava' and 'wearing'.
If you want the title to make sense, it should have a hyphen between the words 'balaclava' and 'wearing'.
Yeah probably. But they should be made an example of imo. Otherwise this will serve to only embolden them even more.
Ashton, Woodward and Joel warned him/her not to (from under their balaclavas)
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