Barcelona will be allowed to sign striker due to Dembele injury

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Pretty sure this happened in the Premier League not too long ago. One club was allowed to sign an emergency goalkeeper. Really can't remember who it was
 

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In France you can bring a "joker*" outside of the international transfer window between the end of the summer transfer window and the beginning of the winter window.

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Well personally I don't think it's that unfair as all the clubs in the league will have had to vote for it to be implemented in the first place. I'm sure it's a rule that if you have two players from the same or similar position out for the season then you're allowed to sign a replacement, which I find quite fair tbh and think the PL should implement something similar.

When Pogba and McTominay first got their injuries, we should've been able to bring in a replacement under certain circumstances, ie the player must be a loan and hasn't started a certain amount of games for their club like Llorente. It would keep teams being able to compete and ensure further injuries don't occur to other players due to over playing them because of injuries.
Firstly it would penalise teams who have planned their squads correctly to be able to manage injuries.

Secondly it provides less chances for a young player to step into the role

Thirdly it penalises teams who cannot afford to bring in an emergency replacement

Lastly if the signings are from within the league only. At least one club is going to get screwed
 

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Doesn’t make sense as Barcelona have a B team who most probably have loads of fit attackers. Thats what any other club would have to do - play the youngsters.
Bear in mind that in Spain only players strictly under 19(when the registration window opens) don't have to be registered. In England, for example, it's players under 21. If I'm not mistaken no one in Barcelona B fits outside of Ansu Fati, so they would have to go to the under 19 team.
 

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It may come as a shock but La Liga and UEFA are actually two different governing bodies.
Most people aren't aware of the exemption clause they are using in La Liga, whose to say there isn't one for CL as well.
 

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this is what happens when your league is run by two big clubs who control all the money. the fact that Getafe is third in the table and Barca is trying to take away their leading scorer makes it even worse.
 
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Bear in mind that in Spain only players strictly under 19(when the registration window opens) don't have to be registered. In England, for example, it's players under 21. If I'm not mistaken no one in Barcelona B fits outside of Ansu Fati, so they would have to go to the under 19 team.
Fair enough well then it’s time to blood some U19s in then!
 

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So Getafe are 3rd in the league, Angel is not a starter but key squad player. Now they risk losing a key player in an important season, rules are rules but this is unfair towards the selling team. This rule should eliminate all release clauses to make it fair, let Barca try to agree a fee with Getafe. But I guess it would unsettle the player either way.

Also, didn't they sell 2 strikers during the winter transfer window.
 

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Firstly it would penalise teams who have planned their squads correctly to be able to manage injuries.
It doesn't. It gives an "advantage" to those who didn't, that's not the same as penalising all other teams who did.

And it's not even an advantage since they won't be able to sign anyone that's even remotely as good as Dembele, in this specific case.
 

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I am sure its a deal that was ratified by all clubs and while it seems unfair that a behemoth like Barcelona are benefitting from it, the smaller clubs probably are happy to have a safety net in case they end up in a relegation scrap and find themselves with no strikers.
 

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This is ridiculous. What about the club they’re signing the player from, are they going to be allowed to sign a replacement, or do they just have to suck it up? And if they are, what about the club that the replacement is being signed from? This is madness.
 

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Suarez is injured too. Their only fit attackers at the minute are Messi and Griezmann. Ansu Fati too (16 years old).

It is a bit dodgy - as is literally everything Barcelona do - but it does make sense. They have barely anybody left fit. Self inflicted issue notwithstanding.
Imagine having Messi, Griezmann and Ansu Fati as your only available attackers? I bet they also struggle to survive on their diet Caviar and Lobster.
 

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But they have 2 fit strikers?

Would of it have been fair for us to sign defenders outside of the window in the last 15 years when we always had a crisis there? We played Carrick and Gibson in defence at one point. It was our own fault.

Should only happen for goalkeepers when you literally have no goalkeepers.

They have 2 fit strikers. Pathetic.
 

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It doesn't. It gives an "advantage" to those who didn't, that's not the same as penalising all other teams who did.

And it's not even an advantage since they won't be able to sign anyone that's even remotely as good as Dembele, in this specific case.
Yes but they might be getting a player who is better than Dembele's replacement in the squad.
 

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Yes but they might be getting a player who is better than Dembele's replacement in the squad.
That's possible yeah. Still, I think it's a big fuss over nothing, better to wait and see if they get someone and if they do, which player it is.

The fact that it's a rule means probaby means that all La Liga teams were alright with it, but now that it's Barcelona it's suddenly a big deal. As long as it's the same rule for every team in the league and it doesn't affect international games, it's not that big a deal. That said I think it's a pretty poor rule since it gives some sort of advantage to teams with poor squad management, although it was probably meant for really bad injury crisis stuff.
 

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So essentially those years where we seemed to have a crazy defensive injury crisis every year leading to us playing players like Carrick, Fletcher, Evra & De Laet at centre half wouldn't happen in Spain because they'd just re-open the transfer window for us?

What a fecking joke that league is :lol:
 

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That's possible yeah. Still, I think it's a big fuss over nothing, better to wait and see if they get someone and if they do, which player it is.

The fact that it's a rule means probaby means that all La Liga teams were alright with it, but now that it's Barcelona it's suddenly a big deal. As long as it's the same rule for every team in the league and it doesn't affect international games, it's not that big a deal. That said I think it's a pretty poor rule since it gives some sort of advantage to teams with poor squad management, although it was probably meant for really bad injury crisis stuff.
It's not that whether it's Barca or some other team, it's such a weird rule that can be abused easily.
 

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Firstly it would penalise teams who have planned their squads correctly to be able to manage injuries.

Secondly it provides less chances for a young player to step into the role

Thirdly it penalises teams who cannot afford to bring in an emergency replacement

Lastly if the signings are from within the league only. At least one club is going to get screwed
There is no perfect management of squads when it comes to injuries though, unless you stockpile 3-5 players per position.

In the case of Barcelona, would you feel it's fair putting the onus on a young player to get you goals that'll win you the league? Or would it be more beneficial to bring in an ageing and experienced striker and have the young player on the bench to come on when the experienced striker has got those goals etc?

Barcelona can indeed just go and pay a release clause, say they activate the release clause of the Getafe striker, who's screwing them, Barcelona for paying the release clause, or themselves as the release clause was easily activated, ie a modest amount for an important player?
 

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There is no perfect management of squads when it comes to injuries though, unless you stockpile 3-5 players per position.

In the case of Barcelona, would you feel it's fair putting the onus on a young player to get you goals that'll win you the league? Or would it be more beneficial to bring in an ageing and experienced striker and have the young player on the bench to come on when the experienced striker has got those goals etc?

Barcelona can indeed just go and pay a release clause, say they activate the release clause of the Getafe striker, who's screwing them, Barcelona for paying the release clause, or themselves as the release clause was easily activated, ie a modest amount for an important player?
They have 3 players for the striker position? Its not that much of a crisis that they should go out and get another one in.
 

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... In the case of Barcelona, would you feel it's fair putting the onus on a young player to get you goals that'll win you the league? ...
Barca should play some other senior player in attack, such as a midfielder. Like City had to when all their centre backs were injured or out.
 

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They have 3 players for the striker position? Its not that much of a crisis that they should go out and get another one in.
The problem is, they're challenging for the league, PL and cups, say if they don't bring anyone in and those 3 had to play all season and Messi got injured, there'd be a huge backlash from not on Barca fans but the media for not getting that striker option that was available to them.
 

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Now that's pretty dumb. Can't understand how such rules can go through.
 

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Ill bet any money Demebele isnt really out for 6 months
I don't know about Spain but in France that decision isn't on the club but the FAs doctors and it's 3 months not 6.
 

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So what happens if they get a getafe striker, then one of getafes strikers get injured?

How many strikers to Getafe have?
 

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Why a striker, Dembele's a wide player so surely you should just replace positions if you get emergency allowance.
 

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There is no perfect management of squads when it comes to injuries though, unless you stockpile 3-5 players per position.

In the case of Barcelona, would you feel it's fair putting the onus on a young player to get you goals that'll win you the league? Or would it be more beneficial to bring in an ageing and experienced striker and have the young player on the bench to come on when the experienced striker has got those goals etc?

Barcelona can indeed just go and pay a release clause, say they activate the release clause of the Getafe striker, who's screwing them, Barcelona for paying the release clause, or themselves as the release clause was easily activated, ie a modest amount for an important player?
It’s actually the league screwing them, they knew Suarez whilst the window was open and didn’t get an attacker in, that’s their own problem.

Getafe are fighting for a champions league place and might lose their top scorer, will the league give them the money they could miss out on?
 

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If this is true, all of football should be working hard to veto it. Absolutely unacceptable, and the potential floodgates it opens shouldn't even be on the table.
 

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If this is true, all of football should be working hard to veto it. Absolutely unacceptable, and the potential floodgates it opens shouldn't even be on the table.

Yeah, feck off! Play a 16yr old or a CB the same way any other team would have to - the only position this should happen for is GK.
 

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Suarez is injured too. Their only fit attackers at the minute are Messi and Griezmann. Ansu Fati too (16 years old).

It is a bit dodgy - as is literally everything Barcelona do - but it does make sense. They have barely anybody left fit. Self inflicted issue notwithstanding.
Yeah, for Barcelona.