Barcelona will be allowed to sign striker due to Dembele injury

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Agree that it's a bad rule. If you're that injury stricken then lean on your youth players. Only idiot fans would blame the team in such situations for failing to win much.

Can't blame Barcelona for using it though.
The problem is an other rule. In the PL you can bring U21 players without registration while in Spain it's U19.
 

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Don't really understand people in this thread acting as though Barca have gone cap in hand to the Spanish FA and have been given some kind of special dispensation. It's obviously a pre-existing La Liga registration rule and presumably other sides have taken advantage of it in the past. If one of my FC Andorra players goes down with a broken leg in FM, I can make use of it as well :lol: :

Fair enough, still a silly rule though.
 

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It just rewards bad squad management. There have to be penalties if you decide to pay one player over 60 percent of the clubs wage bill. There should be a price if you try to build a squad round a few highly paid stars.
 

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This is why England has gone past Spain now on a national level. Do not buy their way out of trouble, but use the academies and young brittish players ;).
Although the only one who got a chance due to insane amount of injuries is probably Rashford. Might be others too.
Spain uses their academies far more than british clubs
 

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Spain uses their academies far more than british clubs
Barcelona in particular isn't an example of that, though. Only Sergi Roberto has somewhat made it and he's not really a starter.

Let's see if they trust Fati and Puig, though.
 

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These comments are fecking ridiculous. Hysterical, even. It's a basic ass rule that applies to all Liga teams. Barca haven't even signed anyone from Getafe, nor are Getafe or any other club actually obligated to sell a player if they don't want to. It's literally only, ONLY because Dembele is out for beyond the rest of the season. That's why it didn't apply when Suarez got injured. Barca currently have something like 17-18 fit first team players. You can't just pull everyone out of the B team, as they also have injuries and a complete fixture list to fulfill themselves. Plus as mentioned, the domestic registration rules aren't the same as in other leagues.

Honestly don't get the fuss being made about it. If you don't think it's a good rule, fair enough, but it's hardly Barca doing something wrong.
 

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These comments are fecking ridiculous. Hysterical, even. It's a basic ass rule that applies to all Liga teams. Barca haven't even signed anyone from Getafe, nor are Getafe or any other club actually obligated to sell a player if they don't want to. It's literally only, ONLY because Dembele is out for beyond the rest of the season. That's why it didn't apply when Suarez got injured. Barca currently have something like 17-18 fit first team players. You can't just pull everyone out of the B team, as they also have injuries and a complete fixture list to fulfill themselves. Plus as mentioned, the domestic registration rules aren't the same as in other leagues.

Honestly don't get the fuss being made about it. If you don't think it's a good rule, fair enough, but it's hardly Barca doing something wrong.
Spot on. Some incredibly moronic takes in this thread when the entire league of la liga has agreed to this in advance. It’s not like the rule was magically made yesterday just for Barca.
 

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Can someone post the actual rule?

It feels as though Barca are just playing the rules to me, Messi, griezmann and fati can all be played as a striker?

Dembele isn't even a real striker either? Hes a wide player isn't he?

I think it's that, which is causing more fuss than anything.
 

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Wish our league was made like this.

Couple players maybe get injured so we pay the doctors to worsen the deadline so we can buy some players when needed. Maybe we wouldn't have had to rush with Ighalo - no offence.

Manager could easily you know - maybe play with a different formation - is it so hard to use a 451 if you only have one striker?

Or do you have you play with a 433? Do all the subs have to be in the right positions to benefit Barcelona? Like why? Why can't their subs be fit with 5 players from team B, 4 who are all defenders, 2 midfielder and 1 hardly fit forward.

Sounds like the stuff we have to deal with.

And yeah - sure the league is different and the rules are different - but it just shows how much of a retirement home the La Liga can be & why some things are a tad overrated. Hint Hint*
 
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Can someone post the actual rule?

It feels as though Barca are just playing the rules to me, Messi, griezmann and fati can all be played as a striker?

Dembele isn't even a real striker either? Hes a wide player isn't he?

I think it's that, which is causing more fuss than anything.
Art.124.3 (page 60) https://www.rfef.es/sites/default/files/pdf/circulares/RG 1314.pdf
In short, It must be accredited to be at least five months of injury, which had happened when the transfer market is closed and checked by doctors of the federation.
Among some Madrid fans I read doubts about the true severity of the injury, but beyond that , everything is ok.
 

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Art.124.3 (page 60) https://www.rfef.es/sites/default/files/pdf/circulares/RG 1314.pdf
In short, It must be accredited to be at least five months of injury, which had happened when the transfer market is closed and checked by doctors of the federation.
Among some Madrid fans I read doubts about the true severity of the injury, but beyond that , everything is ok.
So if a defender gets injured they can get a striker? Doesn't say like for like anywhere there.
 

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So let me get this straight: Dembele was injured throughout January. He is known to be injury prone. Barca refused to sign anyone in the January transfer window to replace him. And now when further details emerge it's the league's problem?

They should be limited to free agents or have the value of the player capped at say < £5 million (but even then those shady cnuts would find a way around it by signing a player for £3 million and employing their father as a gardener on a £77 million salary). It's ridiculous they're allowed to interrupt another La Liga club's season/ affect their squad due to their shitty lack of foresight or planning. And you can bet your bottom dollar that this would be rejected for any other club outside of Madrid/ Barca.

Where's their famous La Masia academy now? They like to come across as some kind of footballing purist club when they're just as bent as the worst of them.
 

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So let me get this straight: Dembele was injured throughout January. He is known to be injury prone. Barca refused to sign anyone in the January transfer window to replace him. And now when further details emerge it's the league's problem?

They should be limited to free agents or have the value of the player capped at say < £5 million (but even then those shady cnuts would find a way around it by signing a player for £3 million and employing their father as a gardener on a £77 million salary). It's ridiculous they're allowed to interrupt another La Liga club's season/ affect their squad due to their shitty lack of foresight or planning. And you can bet your bottom dollar that this would be rejected for any other club outside of Madrid/ Barca.

Where's their famous La Masia academy now? They like to come across as some kind of footballing purist club when they're just as bent as the worst of them.

You’re an idiot, the entire league agreed to this rule, how thick are you? They made attempts to sign players in January (like Cavani) and didn’t get anywhere. Dembele has a legit injury. This was always within the rules. Fools like you act like the rule was made up this morning.

You just had one of the worst takes in this entire thread.
 

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Agree that it's a bad rule. If you're that injury stricken then lean on your youth players. Only idiot fans would blame the team in such situations for failing to win much.

Can't blame Barcelona for using it though.
Yeah can't blame any club when there is a rule which is so easy to abuse.

It's a silly rule and shouldn't be in place. So if they sign Getafe striker their campaign is fecked.
 

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Yeah can't blame any club when there is a rule which is so easy to abuse.

It's a silly rule and shouldn't be in place. So if they sign Getafe striker their campaign is fecked.
It’s not a silly rule if all the clubs agree to it.

The NBA has a rule where if a player is out for 6 months you can sign another one using the injury exception. All the teams voted to be for it.
 

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Bit of a stupid rule, but doesn't appear like they are actually doing anything wrong.
 

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It’s not a silly rule if all the clubs agree to it.

The NBA has a rule where if a player is out for 6 months you can sign another one using the injury exception. All the teams voted to be for it.
just because all the clubs agreed to it doesn’t mean it’s not silly rule. PL clubs also agreed to end the transfer window month early than other leagues, doesn’t mean it’s not wrong decision.
 

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just because all the clubs agreed to it doesn’t mean it’s not silly rule. PL clubs also agreed to end the transfer window month early than other leagues, doesn’t mean it’s not wrong decision.
I don’t think it’s a silly rule,
Other sports have a similar rule as an injury exception.


People are acting like Barca get to sign Pele or maradonna. I’d be shocked if Getafe let go of their best striker when they’re currently third in the league.

Barca will sign a playable #9, no one special, and that’ll be that.

People feigning outrage over this is ridiculous.
 

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I don’t think it’s a silly rule,
Other sports have a similar rule as an injury exception.


People are acting like Barca get to sign Pele or maradonna. I’d be shocked if Getafe let go of their best striker when they’re currently third in the league.

Barca will sign a playable #9, no one special, and that’ll be that.

People feigning outrage over this is ridiculous.
What's the point of squad when you can sign replacement whenever you want, they should just remove transfer window.
 

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What's the point of squad when you can sign replacement whenever you want, they should just remove transfer window.
Because you can only sign a replacement within your league and rarely would a team be willing to sell their best player so late in the season. It’s not like Barca are going to be getting even a top 30 la liga player. They only have 17 players on their first team as it is.
 

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Because you can only sign a replacement within your league and rarely would a team be willing to sell their best player so late in the season. It’s not like Barca are going to be getting even a top 30 la liga player. They only have 17 players on their first team as it is.
They might get top 50 player or 75th best player, it's doesn't mean much for Barca but the club who lose that player will be losing one of their best player.

This is not against Barca, this is against the stupid rule. If Barca have on;y 17 players then it's their mistake for not signing players in the transfer window.
 

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It’s not a silly rule if all the clubs agree to it.

The NBA has a rule where if a player is out for 6 months you can sign another one using the injury exception. All the teams voted to be for it.
In the NBA you can’t just take another teams player.

Also Getafes striker has a €10 million release clause, considering they will be budgeted €12 million, if it’s true, they would have no option to replace him.

So it is ridiculous, regardless of the agreement.
 

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Yeah can't blame any club when there is a rule which is so easy to abuse.

It's a silly rule and shouldn't be in place. So if they sign Getafe striker their campaign is fecked.
They dont have to sell the player and if they do want they can still buy another player
 

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They dont have to sell the player and if they do want they can still buy another player
Sometimes clubs won't have power to stop the player from leaving, with low release clauses. Also once the player is tapped, they will obviously do everything to push for transfer. Its not black or white scenario.
 

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How is this rule easy to abuse :houllier:
Why not? It's not a rule to sign like for like replacement. If your back up shit player is injured in a position you are well stacked, how will this rule stop you from signing a player in a position you want to?
 

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Why not? It's not a rule to sign like for like replacement. If your back up shit player is injured in a position you are well stacked, how will this rule stop you from signing a player in a position you want to?
Let's see: first, i have to prove that the injury will take him out for at least 5 months. An independent doctor or team of doctors will have to check the player and write the medical record. So, to abuse it, i'd have to bribe a whole lot of people, including my own player who is now going to be out for at least 5 months

Then i have go and find a player i want, from within the country, and trigger his release clause - something i could have easily done during the transfer window if i actually wanted this player and thought he was good enough
 

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Let's see: first, i have to prove that the injury will take him out for at least 5 months. An independent doctor or team of doctors will have to check the player and write the medical record. So, to abuse it, i'd have to bribe a whole lot of people, including my own player who is now going to be out for at least 5 months

Then i have go and find a player i want, from within the country, and trigger his release clause - something i could have easily done during the transfer window if i actually wanted this player and thought he was good enough
You don't have to bribe anyone,

Player 1 and Player 2 - attackers
Player 3 - some back up fb who is probably 3rd or 4th choice.

Player 1 and 2 are injured for 2 months and player 3 is injured for 6+ months, now club can sign player to replace player 1 and 2 instead of replacing player 3.
 

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You don't have to bribe anyone,

Player 1 and Player 2 - attackers
Player 3 - some back up fb who is probably 3rd or 4th choice.

Player 1 and 2 are injured for 2 months and player 3 is injured for 6+ months, now club can sign player to replace player 1 and 2 instead of replacing player 3.
You still need player 3 to pick up a 6+ months injury.

Those are exceptional circumstances, which is what the rule exists for in the first place
 

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You still need player 3 to pick up a 6+ months injury.

Those are exceptional circumstances, which is what the rule exists for in the first place
Of course you need player who is injured and then you can play with the system when some unimportant player is injured in position you already have enough depth.
 

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Then you just don't pay attention...Barca and Man City (200m on very average full backs) have also been mocked. Difference is that they're winning titles.
 

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Combined with the mandatory release clauses in La Liga contracts, this is a rule that disproportionately favours the biggest and richest clubs who can easily afford to just trigger said clauses and count on a player being willing to join them.
 

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He's not even a striker though...

Suarez is injured too. Their only fit attackers at the minute are Messi and Griezmann. Ansu Fati too (16 years old).

It is a bit dodgy - as is literally everything Barcelona do - but it does make sense. They have barely anybody left fit. Self inflicted issue notwithstanding.
Aww poor Barca having to rely on the greatest footballer of all time and a world class World Cup winner. How ever will they cope?