Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

[Adnan]

Yep. His dribbling and passing ability means he's just as comfortable terrorising fullbacks on the flanks, as he is playing in tight spaces centrally. He's a dream of a player and if we can get him, we absolutely should. The problem is that as a football project, we leave a lot to be desired and, as explained above, our financial advantage relative to our rivals, is somewhat diminished.

I think United will give him a very lucrative pay packet which will likely be higher than our rivals which could be advantageous. Also our need for Sancho is greater than others and Sancho will see that with the way we have pursued him since he was at City, with the player at the time wanting to join us, only for City to block the move, hence him joining Dortmund after.

We're one decent transfer window away from having a very competitive team and Sancho will know that. It's also been reported that if Sancho returns to England his preference is to join Man Utd.

I don't normally agree on going huge for a single target. But for Sancho a exception has to be made imo. I'd rather sign VVD for huge money than sign Lindelof and Bailly for slightly less. The same applies for Sancho in this regard imo.

 

[TheReligion]

Ziyech wont be brought in to play on the wing IMO. He is coming in as a number 10,someone to unlock a defence behind the striker.
I still reckon we will be in the running for Sancho, but it'll be CL dependant

Nah no chance. CHO, Pulisic, Ziyech, Sancho all wanting first team football. Just won't happen. Great for United though as makes Sancho coming here much more likely as he'll be guaranteed first team and our number 7.

 

[Luciano Venturini]

He has to be our number one target this summer without a shadow of doubt. Everything about the transfer makes perfect sense.

.We get a young English player who is hungry to improve and succeed (which fits in with transfer policy)
.He improves our starting 11 instantly and drastically
.We fill a void on the right wing which we've had since the days of Nani/Valencia
.Sancho gets the famous 7 shirt at one of the biggest clubs in the world and returns to the premier league
.Of course, Sancho gets well paid from the deal
.Dortmund get the money they want
.As irrelevant as I personally find it all, United get a new poster boy who will sell shirts and be a marketing success

Sancho reminds me of those players where it doesn't matter how much it costs, just get the deal done. Rooney/Ronaldo/Neymar/Mbappe type. I'm not comparing him to that level of player yet but you just know he has guaranteed quality that will benefit any top club he goes to.

 

[TrueRed79]

Oh feck off with this. The constant state of misery on here is unbearable.

HAHA. I'm perfectly happy thanks. Guess you still think we are a top club

 

[harms]

Why would you leave Dortmund now ? Surely stay for another season or two and see what happens, they're building something there.

Just a little example. Sancho has 3,1 million followers on Instagram. Lingard has 6,6. Playing for Manchester United, regardless of the dire state we're in, is still a huge pull, especially for a player who is so concerned about his image. The money he'll get with us compared to what he is being paid by Dortmund... it's incomparable, really. And, as recently proven by Liverpool and other clubs over and over, it doesn't take that long to get back to the top if you make the right moves. The only issue is, are we doing them.

 

[Adnan]

Barca and Real Madrid would be our biggest danger to signing him imo.

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

We apparently have hundreds of scouts around the world, right? We are also apparently working with a 'new strategy' to avoid over-paying, right?

So in that case, between now and the end of May, our 400-strong scouting army should be able to identify a very good RW who is better than Lingard, Mata, Pereira and Dan James - for less than £100m.

That should be a walk in the park. 4months to identify and target a RW costing less than £100m. Because Jadon Sancho is not going to come here - if we spend all summer 'chasing' him I will be convinced we have no plans to sign a RW really. To me, Sancho is our 'Season Ticket Renewal Bait'.

 

[cyberman]

Why would you leave Dortmund now ? Surely stay for another season or two and see what happens, they're building something there.

He fell out with mamangement, reportedly decided to move months ago.
Plus he has 2 years left on his contract after this summer, hes being sold.

 

[Fortitude]

I think Chelsea's highest earner is Kante, who earns around 300k per week.

Wow, little guy's done well for himself!

 

[Lash]

Barca and Real Madrid would be our biggest danger to signing him imo.

They would need to raise some funds though, or include players in the deal. They're battling with FFP as it is.

 

[pascell]

Wow, little guy's done well for himself!

It was reported before that deal, he was happy on the money he was on and didn't want the extra money but Chelsea basically said 'have it, you've earned it'.

 

[UmbroDays]

I don't know what the ethos is here with quoting too many posts, but please let me know if I need to edit it.

We're desperate and will therefore be willing to offer him an enormous salary.

I agree, it's an uphill task, especially if we go into next season with no CL football and Solskjaer still at the helm.

We are desperate and will more than likely have Pogba money in the bank as it doesn't make sense to have Pogba, Sancho and Fernandes in the same team.
It will be difficult to sign him IMO purely down to CL football. I was watching an interview with him on German TV and I'm not even sure if he's THAT upset there. But he's young and his friends an family are back in the UK - so that many be a factor

Maybe he wants to come back to England. That still leaves Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea he could choose. He is more likely to be starting weekly here or Chelsea but it seems Chelsea can’t afford him. That leaves us.
From a players perspective, it would be a great chance (if we get a better coach) to become a part of history at one of the biggest clubs in the world by helping us get back to where we should be.

Fingers crossed! I just hope he does want to come back to England vs going to the continent (Bayern, Barca, Real, Juve, PSG, etc). Honestly though, if I was in his shoes in an non-biased position, United in our current condition won't be number 1 choice. But then again it may only be us bidding on him

Because United are a huge fecking club? Seems to be lost in all of this

We are, and Di Maria, Falcao, Pogba are all massive players who came to a massive club and were mis-bought, mis-managed and ultimately haven't got us what we wanted. We are a massive team, but that has not guaranteed anything since Fergie left

He might want to return to England and if Liverpool won't spend 100M for him and he's not going back to City (who have wingers already, though maybe a Sane replacement if Pep decides Bernardo's future is in the middle) that only leaves United, Chelsea (who've just signed a winger), Arsenal too poor and Spurs probably aren't spending 100M on a player either.

Could win it by default! And we do have Rashford, Maguire and Wan-Bissaka on the England team. Hell maybe he loves playing in front of Wan-Bissaka knowing he doesn't need to track back (or hates it since he can't make space for him by crossing, who knows).

I'm LOVING the sound of this, but not holding my breath..I've said that AWB needs a quality ball possession RW who doesn't rely on kick and run speed, but can find spaces to exploit, play a through-ball or cross, etc.

No he wouldn’t want to join us under our current situation. Make no sense at all.

But, let’s show him the money. Let’s give him martial wage of 250k per week. If that’s not enough, let’s show him Sanchez wage of 375k. He may likes it.

Current condition of us yeah, it makes 0 sense. But if Poch comes in with guarantees of being involved with all the purchases, we get CL football then I would be a lot more hopeful.

 

[Rozay]

Yeah i can see the lure of joining a sinking ship currently in 8th, with a manager of the ilk of Solksjaer. What a career move that would be for a player like him....

Can all you lot go away and moan somewhere else?

 

[Judas]

This is the thread for positivity and dreams now. The Sancho muppet train is about to leave the station. All aboard.

 

[Cassidy]

Liverpool sniffing...

 

[Joseunited]

HAHA. I'm perfectly happy thanks. Guess you still think we are a top club

We are a top club!League position alone doesn't dictate your status in the game. I find it laughable that people think we're not a big draw anymore.

 

[romufc]

We are a top club!League position alone doesn't dictate your status in the game. I find it laughable that people think we're not a big draw anymore.

It is a complete joke, its a good thing players we might sign have more sense than some fans.

We are obviously still a top club, the only way is up. We needed this clearout, I cant believe how many fans struggle to see what we are trying to do.

Having a squad now of key personnel, few deadwood's gives us a chance in the summer with a few additions to be a very good team.

I guess some fans sell a project based on the seasons league position where a clever person would sell this to Sancho as follows:

- We have a a core of youth players in Magurie, AWB, Rashy, Greenwood, McT, Martial together with a few players who can do a good job in Lindelof, Shaw, DDG, Fred.

- Now we have signed Bruno, and our intention is to sign Sancho, Grealish and another DM. This will give us great flexibility upfront, with movement, skill and pace.

- You will be joining a team that is starting its journey rather than a club like Liverpool which is peaking.

- Sancho will be offered the number 7, a shirt that is iconic.

Sancho has played with Rashford, Maguire at international level so knows their quality and if he thinks he is that good, he is probably thinking I can come in and make a real name for myself here.

 

[gajender]

We lose 30% of the value of the kit deal next year. It will stay at that level until we qualify for the Champions League. Also, the figure quoted was £100m.

Your initial post stated double of our deal and despite what the article claims it's not guaranteed they would even earn more than our last deal let alone 100million which they are peddling they simply don't move that number of merchandise.

 

[Fortitude]

Barca and Real Madrid would be our biggest danger to signing him imo.

If you look at it objectively, other sides need to make seismic shifts to entertain the purchase of Sancho:

Real - widely expected to be going all in for Mbappé this summer.

Barca - ditto Neymar

City - Pep was displeased with Sancho's actions, plus, they've not spent beyond £80m for any player (officially).

PSG - Could be feasible if Sancho would go there. PSG have two key players who the Spanish clubs are going to come after, losing even one opens up a slot for Sancho.

Bayern - someone else can fill this in as I'm not up to date with them or their needs.

Liverpool - have a settled front line with both flanks occupied; a wage structure in place and a player of Sancho's status in no way going anywhere to be on a bench or part of a rotation.

Chelsea - wage structure and transfer fee plus young talent on both wings and a recent purchase that might have them out of the race before it starts.

That's your lot when it comes to Sancho; apart from the CL situation there would be no reason to doubt us being right at the top of the pile: wage; profile; need; meeting of transfer fee.

The mates thing is tenuous, but even there we are strong given the kid has links in Manchester and in our squad.

Manchester United are more desperate than anyone to make a splash and baulk at the notion of being a has been and a spent force; Sancho is a statement signing in a time of need both for the betterment of the team, but also to make waves off the pitch. For those reasons, if we're serious about him, we will push other clubs to their brink to match what we'll offer.

Objectively, there is no way to discredit us outside of CL and Ole, but one can argue that both of these things are secondary unless Sancho is prepared to wait out another season or see what happens with Mbappé and Neymar if he's hankering for a move to Spain. Or even Liverpool, in that they sell Salah or Mane and then have a proper vacancy for Sancho.

 

[romufc]

Liverpool can afford anything we can. Their kit deal will be worth double ours next season.

Fake news.

 

[roonster09]

Bayern - someone else can fill this in as I'm not up to date with them or their needs.

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[TrueRed79]

We are a top club!League position alone doesn't dictate your status in the game. I find it laughable that people think we're not a big draw anymore.

We are a big club in name of course but to call us a top club, i don't think so anymore. Steadily declining over the last 7 years. Proof is there, i don't need to provide it.

Can all you lot go away and moan somewhere else?

Oh boo hoo, poor you. Life must be tough.

 

[Adnan]

If you look at it objectively, other sides need to make seismic shifts to entertain the purchase of Sancho:

Real - widely expected to be going all in for Mbappé this summer.

Barca - ditto Neymar

City - Pep was displeased with Sancho's actions, plus, they've not spent beyond £80m for any player (officially).

PSG - Could be feasible if Sancho would go there. PSG have two key players who the Spanish clubs are going to come after, losing even one opens up a slot for Sancho.

Bayern - someone else can fill this in as I'm not up to date with them or their needs.

Liverpool - have a settled front line with both flanks occupied; a wage structure in place and a player of Sancho's status in no way going anywhere to be on a bench or part of a rotation.

Chelsea - wage structure and transfer fee plus young talent on both wings and a recent purchase that might have them out of the race before it starts.

That's your lot when it comes to Sancho; apart from the CL situation there would be no reason to doubt us being right at the top of the pile: wage; profile; need; meeting of transfer fee.

The mates thing is tenuous, but even there we are strong given the kid has links in Manchester and in our squad.

Manchester United are more desperate than anyone to make a splash and baulk at the notion of being a has been and a spent force; Sancho is a statement signing in a time of need both for the betterment of the team, but also to make waves off the pitch. For those reasons, if we're serious about him, we will push other clubs to their brink to match what we'll offer.

Objectively, there is no way to discredit us outside of CL and Ole, but one can argue that both of these things are secondary unless Sancho is prepared to wait out another season or see what happens with Mbappé and Neymar if he's hankering for a move to Spain. Or even Liverpool, in that they sell Salah or Mane and then have a proper vacancy for Sancho.

I agree with your post but Sancho himself is reported to have a preference for joining one of the big two in Spain and you just never know with either club.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Bayern still have their heart set on getting Sane back to Germany.

 

[TheReligion]

HAHA. I'm perfectly happy thanks. Guess you still think we are a top club

You sad sad character

 

[Vault Dweller]

Oh feck off with this. The constant state of misery on here is unbearable.

It's relentless mate.

 

[TheReligion]

It's relentless mate.

The mods should ban the moaning little cnuts. It would at least lift the mood somewhat. I'm all for constructive criticism but endless, needless negatively is just draining. I have no idea what they get from positing.

 

[Judas]

I get it can be a release to get some negative emotion out, but it doesn't need to be every post every thread.

 

[Champagne Football]

This transfer has the feel of an Erling/De Ligt/Hazard vibe where its seems like a no brainer only for the player to choose elsewhere. But we'd look awesome next season if we land our main targets including Sancho.

De Gea
Wan-B Maguire Lindelof Williams
Bruno McFredinay
Sancho Grealish Rashford
Dembele​

 

[Fortitude]

I agree with your post but Sancho himself is reported to have a preference for joining one of the big two in Spain and you just never know with either club.

Cheers @roonster09

Real have to get Bale off their books and come up with a world record transfer for Mbappé. You can say the same thing with Barca wrt Neymar, plus Barca have Messi on the right, which rules out Sancho (assuming they succeed in getting Neymar back) unless Messi is put central again. I don't think they'll offload Griezmann any time soon, plus they either get Suarez back and fit again or have to look at #9's. Simply put, they have bigger concerns than Sancho before money is even factored in.

Real may be in an either or vis-a-vis Mbappé and Sancho, however, but the way they are, I would be surprised if they ended their pursuit of Mbappé and gave his slot to some new expensive purchase.

I'm not sure Sancho would appreciate being a clear second fiddle to Neymar or Mbappé, either, as in, him waiting in the wings for either pursuit to fall through when he's got massive offers on the table from other clubs who are making him feel like a marquee signing before the window has even opened.

 

[TheReligion]

I get it can be a release to get some negative emotion out, but it doesn't need to be every post every thread.

What does endless posts of "he won't come here as United are shit" add to any meaningful discussion though? Why post in the thread at all if you think it's a non starter?

 

[TrueRed79]

You sad sad character

Oh look at you "Mr Positivity" The fact you have to try and insult me says all i need to know what's behind your keyboard. If that post of mine leads you to that conclusion, well HAHAHA. Take a break fella. Looks like you spend too much time around here.

 

[RedRonaldo]

I don't know what the ethos is here with quoting too many posts, but please let me know if I need to edit it.


We are desperate and will more than likely have Pogba money in the bank as it doesn't make sense to have Pogba, Sancho and Fernandes in the same team.
It will be difficult to sign him IMO purely down to CL football. I was watching an interview with him on German TV and I'm not even sure if he's THAT upset there. But he's young and his friends an family are back in the UK - so that many be a factor



Fingers crossed! I just hope he does want to come back to England vs going to the continent (Bayern, Barca, Real, Juve, PSG, etc). Honestly though, if I was in his shoes in an non-biased position, United in our current condition won't be number 1 choice. But then again it may only be us bidding on him



We are, and Di Maria, Falcao, Pogba are all massive players who came to a massive club and were mis-bought, mis-managed and ultimately haven't got us what we wanted. We are a massive team, but that has not guaranteed anything since Fergie left



I'm LOVING the sound of this, but not holding my breath..I've said that AWB needs a quality ball possession RW who doesn't rely on kick and run speed, but can find spaces to exploit, play a through-ball or cross, etc.



Current condition of us yeah, it makes 0 sense. But if Poch comes in with guarantees of being involved with all the purchases, we get CL football then I would be a lot more hopeful.

Surely if we get to play CL chance of him joining us would be much higher. But we are currently at 8th place in the league, and it’s already more than half way through the season.

 

[JPRouve]

The mods should ban the moaning little cnuts. It would at least lift the mood somewhat. I'm all for constructive criticism but endless, needless negatively is just draining. I have no idea what they get from positing.

I'm skeptical about our chances, mainly because I don't know how we can effectively convince someone like Sancho that we are on the right path but it's not impossible and money can give us the small edge that we need. But I do think that it would only be possible if the team looks ambitious, for example I think that it would be easier to convince both Pogba and Sancho that United is the place to be if they are both part of the project. And a "sexier" manager would help.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

This transfer has the feel of an Erling/De Ligt/Hazard vibe where its seems like a no brainer only for the player to choose elsewhere. But we'd look awesome next season if we land our main targets including Sancho.

De Gea
Wan-B Maguire Lindelof Williams
Bruno McFredinay
Sancho Grealish Rashford
Dembele​

How was it a "no brainer" for Hazard to go elsewhere? We had won 4 of the last 6 league titles and had been in 3 CL finals in the few years prior. Him going to Chelsea was actually a big surprise at the time. It was widely reported it was between us and City.

 

[TheReligion]

Oh look at you "Mr Positivity" The fact you have to try and insult me says all i need to know what's behind your keyboard. If that post of mine leads you to that conclusion, well HAHAHA. Take a break fella. Looks like you spend too much time around here.

I don't really need to insult you as you make a fool out of yourself anyway by the very nature of your posting. Others have seemingly called you out on it too so why don't you scurry away to another thread and post about how shit United are whilst hiding your raging errection behind your laptop.

 

[Adnan]

Cheers @roonster09

Real have to get Bale off their books and come up with a world record transfer for Mbappé. You can say the same thing with Barca wrt Neymar, plus Barca have Messi on the right, which rules out Sancho (assuming they succeed in getting Neymar back) unless Messi is put central again. I don't think they'll offload Griezmann any time soon, plus they either get Suarez back and fit again or have to look at #9's. Simply put, they have bigger concerns than Sancho before money is even factored in.

Real may be in an either or vis-a-vis Mbappé and Sancho, however, but the way they are, I would be surprised if they ended their pursuit of Mbappé and gave his slot to some new expensive purchase.

I'm not sure Sancho would appreciate being a clear second fiddle to Neymar or Mbappé, either, as in, him waiting in the wings for either pursuit to fall through when he's got massive offers on the table from other clubs who are making him feel like a marquee signing before the window has even opened.

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Madrid or Barca could sign him and offload a number of assets in the process. Both clubs have allure like no other club aswell so it's best to be alittle cautious when the players reps have made it known he wants to play in Spain at some point in his career.

 

[TheReligion]

I'm skeptical about our chances, mainly because I don't know how we can effectively convince someone like Sancho that we are on the right path but it's not impossible and money can give us the small edge that we need. But I do think that it would only be possible if the team looks ambitious, for example I think that it would be easier to convince both Pogba and Sancho that United is the place to be if they are both part of the project. And a "sexier" manager would help.

I'll have it. We are facing an uphill battle to bring him in but to flat out slate the club and say we have no chance is ridiculous.

I believe Poch is coming in regardless of how we finish and I also feel we are doing better at securing our targets and not wasting time with those that are unattainable. Ultimately I'd rather the club be ambitious but ensure they have a back up plan and move on in good time if it seems a deal can't be made.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Sanch-On! Would love this if true. Hopefully we don't "coach" the talent out of him!

 

[amolbhatia50k]

This transfer has the feel of an Erling/De Ligt/Hazard vibe where its seems like a no brainer only for the player to choose elsewhere. But we'd look awesome next season if we land our main targets including Sancho.

De Gea
Wan-B Maguire Lindelof Williams
Bruno McFredinay
Sancho Grealish Rashford
Dembele​

Dembele isn't exactly awesome