Jose Mourinho Sack Watch | Sacked per 19-04

[MattofManchester]

I actually think you have a lot of good points in this post, BUT Jose does deserve his fair share of blame to.

In regards to Parrott, he is too busy playing plastic gangster like Ravel and Ranger before him. I cannot see him ever being this top striker many expect.

I'm not saying that he doesn't do a lot to himself. He definitely does, and everything that happened to him in the past is mostly warranted.

But I think the amount of criticism levelled at him already at Spurs is unwarranted, and everyone just uses this to suit the narrative, when the fact is that he's taken over a club that is dead in the water, and is risking the chance that what little stars it has are going to leave.

I mean, sometimes, call a spade a spade.

 

[Tiber]

When he gets sacked by Spurs, surely that's it for him? Certainly at the top level. He's basically exhausted all his options in terms go clubs he can go to, and who the hell is going to take another punt on him after his recent history.

He will go manage Portugal

 

[BusbyMalone]

Under normal circumstances yeah - but we have had horrible luck with injuries which you have to take into consideration. Our only two guaranteed goal scorers in the team (including by far our best and most important player) out and our club captain also out. That alone has pretty much done us in with or without Jose.

There are mitigating circumstances, that's for sure. Having your two best players out is certainly a blow, but looking away from the field and there's concerns there for Spurs supporters. His demeanour already should raise a few flags. His little (and not so little) digs, his ludicrous suggestion that they can only focus on one game (either the Champions League one or the Premier League game against Burnley) and basically toss the other one off, and his expert levels of expectation management.

He just seems defeated already to me.

 

[BusbyMalone]

He will go manage Portugal

I guess, maybe. I'm not so sure, though.

I suppose it makes more sense than going to another club. Unless he drops down a few levels, which his ego will not allow.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Interestingly the new haircut bounce lasted less than a week this time, the press usually give more mileage when he used to pull that trick.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

He will go manage Portugal

Or Celtic. It worked for Brentan.

 

[spiriticon]

This guy cannot manage adversity at all. A few curveballs and his whole demeanour nosedives.

Can't cope with injuries, lack of transfers, lack of form etc.

All stars have to be aligned for his magic to work. Sorry but life isn't always like that.

 

[André Dominguez]

He will go manage Portugal

Well, Santos is already a cautious manager, so the players won't fell strangers.

 

[André Dominguez]

This guy cannot manage adversity at all. A few curveballs and his whole demeanour nosedives.

Can't cope with injuries, lack of transfers, lack of form etc.

All stars have to be aligned for his magic to work. Sorry but life isn't always like that.

Very few managers can, tbh. Even Klopp at his last Dortmund season.

 

[spiriticon]

Very few managers can, tbh. Even Klopp at his last Dortmund season.

Aye but at least other managers try to hold their shit together. Mourinho, very visibly, lets his head drop.

Not sure he was like this 10 years ago.

 

[Eckers99]

His boom-bust cycle is now all bust. Busty bluster. Bluster bust.

 

[Fosu-Mens]

While the players or team did not function well during the last months of Poch's reign, they were at least able to pass competently. Their handling and passing of the ball are so much worse after only 4 months under Jose. Passes wobbles, a foot off or soft/hard. Getting the ball effectively into the final third is not happening at a regular rate anymore.
His methods as an approach to football are not working in the current EPL environment. I reckon Bundesliga with their Gung Ho football would be an atmosphere where is approach would be effective for an underdog.

 

[Adisa]

I think 70% of his problems as a manager are simply tactical. I think the psychological/mental deficiencies he has are a small part of the problem.

 

[Canagel]

So he was the virus all along? Who would've thought it eh? Everywhere he goes the toxic energy and poisonous atmosphere follows him.

too bad no Pogba and Martial to blame anymore

 

[DatIrishFella]

His style of football is dreadful. His personality in football, poisonous.

Replacing Pochettino for him was a mental.

 

[DRM]

He acts like a petulant toddler when things aren't going his way! And what's worse, he loves throwing his players under the bus. His comments on Troy Parrot yesterday were utterly disgraceful:

"Now people can see that he has to work a lot so don’t think that Parrott is the second Harry Kane"

This is an 18 year old kid, what good are those comments going to do? This is typical of him and his narcissistic personality. I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG.
Such a pathetic human being.

 

[Skills]

I think 70% of his problems as a manager are simply tactical. I think the psychological/mental deficiencies he has are a small part of the problem.

They're still a big part of them but I agree. A lot of his problems are because good players don't want to play his brand of football.

His spiral down here started when he set us up like a pussy at Anfield in 17/18, where we were in great form, giving city a real run for the title up until that point, with Liverpool being in dreadful form - and he set us up to win a point like a coward. The way he set up, damaged his own squads confidence and self-belief. He basically ended his own teams momentum. And we subsequently dropped points in the next game too - against Huddersfield iirc.

 

[DoomSlayer]

They're still a big part of them but I agree. A lot of his problems are because good players don't want to play his brand of football.

His spiral down here started when he set us up like a pussy at Anfield in 17/18, where we were in great form, giving city a real run for the title up until that point, with Liverpool being in dreadful form - and he set us up to win a point like a coward. The way he set up, damaged his own squads confidence and self-belief. He basically ended his own teams momentum. And we subsequently dropped points in the next game too - against Huddersfield iirc.

I think Mourinho was always a sore loser in the worst possible way. Instead of using his failures to fuel his own progression, he sees that as a weakness and tries everything possible to paint a picture of everything else being wrong. Everyone has caught on to his act a long time ago, so his methods of manipulating the media narrative no longer work in his favour and he ends up looking like an even bigger twat.

Don't think Mourinho can ever truly change, this is what his football personality is and always will be, unless he goes through some sort of divine epiphany. The moment he starts losing on a regular basis and can't control the public opinion, all hell breaks lose and he gets into this scornful, grumpy mood that affects the whole work environment in a club.

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

He will go manage Portugal

International job for definite, I thought his next job (before Spurs) would be an oil-money Russian club, followed by an oil-rich national team. Like Qatar, something like that.

 

[Brwned]

Possibly not but I think Jose is doing the right thing in putting pressure on the board - it's the board that have got us into this mess through lack of investment so I'm 100% behind him on this.

He did the same at Chelsea and United over the last several years and all it did was succeed in getting fans on his side temporarily while the atmosphere around the team became toxic. He didn't suddenly get handed a massive transfer budget.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

United fans weren’t this lenient with Ole when he lost Pogba, Rashford, and McTominay. ie. our two best players and arguably our player of the season up to that point.

Jose looks finished, surely he’ll get the summer transfer window but he’ll have even less to spend than he had at United, and even that wasn’t enough.

Utd without Pogba and Rashford is nowhere near the same as Spuds without Kane and Son ffs.

Kane and Son are absolutely crucial to them scoring goals, and are better players (imo) than Pogba or Rashford.

He's also only been there for 3 months and had very little investment.

Solskjaer's been at Utd for over a year and had hundreds of millions invested in his 'vision' - yet there's only 2 points difference in the PL.

 

[André Dominguez]

Utd without Pogba and Rashford is nowhere the same as Spuds without Kane and Son ffs.

Kane and Son are absolutely crucial to them scoring goals, and are better players (imo) than Pogba or Rashford.

He's also only been there for 3 months and had very little investment.

Solskjaer's been at Utd for over a year and had hundreds of millions invested in his 'vision' - yet there's only 2 points difference in the PL.

This also says a lot about Ole tenure.

 

[Amadaeus]

Preach, brother.

People underestimate how good of a job Pochettino did. Including Spurs fans themselves.

Exactly. The benefits of having a great manager.

Uh nonsense

You aren’t getting to a champion league final anytime soon. Moreover, I doubt you will see champions league football anytime soon as well. I see United, Chelsea, Wolves, Leceister and Arsenal having a upward trajectory, whereas Spurs seems to be going downward since the appointment of Mourinho. Unless, you give Mourinho what he wants and spend insane amount of money. Even then, it would be a dumb decision by your board to give the rebuilding job to a manager like Mourinho. He will waste all your money that might give short term, success, but it will do long term harm to your club that your next manager will have probably have to fix

 

[Hugh Jass]

Could he have lost the players already? Will be interesting to see how they fair next season. I think an early sack would be a decent bet.

 

[AR87]

Utd without Pogba and Rashford is nowhere near the same as Spuds without Kane and Son ffs.

Kane and Son are absolutely crucial to them scoring goals, and are better players (imo) than Pogba or Rashford.

He's also only been there for 3 months and had very little investment.

Solskjaer's been at Utd for over a year and had hundreds of millions invested in his 'vision' - yet there's only 2 points difference in the PL.

Pogba was our only creative midfielder until Bruno came in and missed most of the season. Rashford had 14 G + 4 A in 22 matches to Son's 9 G + 7 A in 21 matches. There is no argument that they've suffered in the attacking department due to injury in the same way United have this season, and this isn't even accounting for the fact Martial missed plenty of time as well.

 

[clarkydaz]

He will go manage Portugal

and demand new signings

 

[thepolice123]

Good to see his toxicity are spreading throughout the club. Even the fans are fighting the players.

 

[DoomSlayer]

Pogba was our only creative midfielder until Bruno came in and missed most of the season. Rashford had 14 G + 4 A in 22 matches to Son's 9 G + 7 A in 21 matches. There is no argument that they've suffered in the attacking department due to injury in the same way United have this season, and this isn't even accounting for the fact Martial missed plenty of time as well.

Facts. We've had an injury crisis for most of the season.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Delighted that people are starting to realise he's not the "special one" like some poor brainwashed minions thought.

He was once, but that man is long gone. His stubbornness at not playing Parrott because the fans want him too is beyond hilarious, especially how he tooted his horn about playing youth when he first joined them.

No doubt once he gets Kane/Son back results will pick up as they're great players, but it just shows ANY manager in football rely on the best players to win them matches, and he especially is no miracle worker.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Aye but at least other managers try to hold their shit together. Mourinho, very visibly, lets his head drop.

Not sure he was like this 10 years ago.

just shows what a genius Fergie was. Jose was clearly one of the best managers in the world, and so was Wenger, and so was Clough - but they all went downhill and ultimately couldn’t adapt. All of the aforementioned we’re still great managers, but pale into insignificance when compared to Sir Alex.

Jose is a busted flush, there is no way back for him. Let’s be brutally honest about Spurs, they have had a couple of great seasons (for them), but they are nowhere near being a great club in the modern era, he’s already made a big step down in going there from Utd and Real. Utd was his last chance of being a relevant top manager.

someone will still give him a job, and he will still get sacked and walk away with millions, but it’s doubtful any half decent team will want him, if they do, then they are even more foolish than spurs.

 

[The Purley King]

He acts like a petulant toddler when things aren't going his way! And what's worse, he loves throwing his players under the bus. His comments on Troy Parrot yesterday were utterly disgraceful:

"Now people can see that he has to work a lot so don’t think that Parrott is the second Harry Kane"

This is an 18 year old kid, what good are those comments going to do? This is typical of him and his narcissistic personality. I WAS RIGHT AND YOU WERE WRONG.
Such a pathetic human being.

Agree 100%.
If you are Parrott reading that your first thought is that the gaffer doesn't rate me. Granted people respond to things differently and some people will say "feck him, I'll prove him wrong" and try twice as hard, but it might completely crush other players. Problem is Mourinho only has one setting - and its cnut setting. He cannot adapt and put an arm round a shoulder when its needed.

It will be his undoing everywhere he goes.

 

[mu4c_20le]

I can imagine him doing the same to Greenwood, while he keeps playing Big Rom despite the goal droughts. He just loves pointing out when young players need alot of work, almost as if it isnt the manager's job to work with them and give them chances.

 

[horsechoker]

I think Jose should do a Rafa and go to a relegation threatened club, he might thrive in that environment and they'll probably put up with shit house football.

 

[Random Task]

@GlastonSpur

What are your views on the Dier incident, the summer exodus, Jose proving useless, and Spurs being shite again?

Your views on the stadium are not necessary.

 

[Teja]

TBF it looked like they were about to start stringing together some results, albeit with pretty shit football. Alderweirld has made a great comeback, pinging balls from the backline all over the pitch, Son was excellent etc. However, even when they were playing well, it looked like the standard zombie Mou football, so I don't think he's the right coach for Spurs but they won't continue to be as bad as they are currently.

Losing Kane / Son is a huge hit, I don't think Mou can do much about it.

 

[Wumminator]

Honestly, the replies on this forum are incredibly biased and quite shocking. It seems everyone is giving into the narrative that Sky Sports creates every day surrounding Jose Mourinho, that he's at fault for everything. Probably in the same way as Souness and Scholes scream about Pogba every week.

United fans forget how many excuses were made for Solskjaer when Pogba and Rashford suffered injuries.

Yes, I have to admit our recent run of good results is all down to the return of rashford and Pogba.

claiming that this is the same squad that finished second while simultaneously ignoring that this spurs squad got to the CL final last year is an interesting leap.

finally - Mourinho is a bellend. So there’s also that.

 

[MackRobinson]

Is in the process of trying to reinvent himself - he will rise again imo.

If Spuds give him time I think he'll do ok there.

He's lost Kane and Son ffs, I know he's unpopular on here, but Spurs without those two are nothing really.

Still defending him to the bitter end I see

Who would you rather have: Mourinho or Ole?

 

[Judas]

If you're being fair, comes in halfway through the season, never easy, something he doesn't usually do, declining team, and arguably the teams most influential players are all out or downed tools and were sold. It is the perfect storm for a Jose who hasn't been himself for years, and never looks far away from a meltdown.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Still defending him to the bitter end I see

Who would you rather have: Mourinho or Ole?

Wanted him sacked, but... yeah you carry on.

And to answer your pointless question - neither.

 

[SteveJ]

Yes, I have to admit our recent run of good results is all down to the return of rashford and Pogba.

claiming that this is the same squad that finished second while simultaneously ignoring that this spurs squad got to the CL final last year is an interesting leap.

finally - Mourinho is a bellend. So there’s also that.