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Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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I'll be surprised if this is over by May, let alone a couple of weeks.
Maybe the premier league prize money can go to the lower league clubs.
Liverpool will go to court. They're not gonna let this go.
Yeah exactly. The majority of the stuff i've seen from a few journalists, is whether Liverpool will win the league. And saying that the season should go ahead because they deserve to win it, etc. It must go ahead for them. Feck off. Even putting aside all the deaths and just concentrating on the football aspect, there's way more consequential ramifications for loads of teams in he English division and how they're going to come out of this, and not just whether the scousers get to raise a fecking trophy in the end.
They're obsessed with them in the media
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I’d finish this season, even if it’s not until March 2021. Just seems pointless and a waste if they just null and void it.
Also genuinely felt that United would get a CL place. They were getting better and fitter while the teams around them were getting more tired and worse
Also genuinely felt that United would get a CL place. They were getting better and fitter while the teams around them were getting more tired and worse
Yes, that is one possibility as well, but it is an awfully long time to wait. Maybe they could move the Euros to the winter as well and normal service resumes in March thereafter?
On what basis will they have a case? Voiding the league is the only option that treats all teams fairly.
The issue isn't that we don't want to finish it. The problem is that footballers and staff are getting infected with this thing. The spread is rapid and serious.
Furthermore, if you manage to get it restarted 2 months later, what happens to players who have contracts expired? Loans that are expired? Same issue with staff.
Would there be any clashes with stadium/venue rentals to other events in the summer? We have to take into account every level of football, not just the premier league.
Its an absolute clusterfeck and just no real way to see it completing. Whether or not they award the title/CL places based on the current standings is another matter.
Somehow I think if put to a vote most would void the season
There are teams with more to lose or gain from this than Liverpool.
If this goes on for more than a month I really do not see anything but the season being voided. It is the most clean cut way of doing it as all others just cause massive issues and a plethora of special circumstances. Both the Bundesliga and Serie A have indicated they will go this route, so the PL would have to make an exception.
On top of this, both the CL and EL will get cancelled. If that happens then a number of teams in that can claim that the tournaments should just reset as they may not qualify again and have not seen this one out. Further to this, it would allow more time until footie needs to be played again as there would be no need for CL/EL qualifying which is probably in UEFA's interests.
As for the PL, any changes needs to be voted through by the clubs with a minimum of 14 being in favour.
Lets say the options are:
A) Void the league. Positions from 2018/19 reused.
B) Play out this season through some arbitrary system that will have an impact on the football calendar for years.
Of the 20 PL sides, I would say the entire bottom half plus City, Spuds and Chelsea would vote for A. The bottom half would do this as it either prevents relegation or essentially dead rubber games, while the other three keep CL (if City's ban does go through, then their season is over anyway, no need to come back.) The only possible exceptions here are Everton and Palace who have some chance of EL but it has to be asked. Os it really worth playing 25% of the season in a very condensed and run this risk of injuries in order to maybe get EL? I do not think so. That is 13 for option A.
After this you have Utd, Leicester, Liverpool and Sheff Utd who would all vote for option B for obvious reasons.
That is 13 to 4, with 3 further teams in Wolves, Burnley and Arsenal.
Of those three, I really cannot see Burnley voting to resume the league as they are esstentially in the same boat as Everton and Palace in that their chances of EL are slim and it is not worth the risk of serious injury to their players. Arsenal and Wolves would probably vote B, however this isn't as certain as the other option B voting teams. I say this as finishing the season will more than likely have them end up with what they got last season. Of course they may want to chance their arm but if there are already 13-14 teams in favour of A (very likely in my opinion) I cannot see them pushing it as it is more than likely to be a zero sum game for them.
As for promotion/relegation, if UEFA/the leagues pass down a sizable sum, 75% of the clubs in those leagues will accept as they will have no chance of promotion and help them avoid relegation.
If this goes beyound these three weeks, I just do not see the season being completed and we come back in late Aug/Early Sept.
On top of this, both the CL and EL will get cancelled. If that happens then a number of teams in that can claim that the tournaments should just reset as they may not qualify again and have not seen this one out. Further to this, it would allow more time until footie needs to be played again as there would be no need for CL/EL qualifying which is probably in UEFA's interests.
As for the PL, any changes needs to be voted through by the clubs with a minimum of 14 being in favour.
Lets say the options are:
A) Void the league. Positions from 2018/19 reused.
B) Play out this season through some arbitrary system that will have an impact on the football calendar for years.
Of the 20 PL sides, I would say the entire bottom half plus City, Spuds and Chelsea would vote for A. The bottom half would do this as it either prevents relegation or essentially dead rubber games, while the other three keep CL (if City's ban does go through, then their season is over anyway, no need to come back.) The only possible exceptions here are Everton and Palace who have some chance of EL but it has to be asked. Os it really worth playing 25% of the season in a very condensed and run this risk of injuries in order to maybe get EL? I do not think so. That is 13 for option A.
After this you have Utd, Leicester, Liverpool and Sheff Utd who would all vote for option B for obvious reasons.
That is 13 to 4, with 3 further teams in Wolves, Burnley and Arsenal.
Of those three, I really cannot see Burnley voting to resume the league as they are esstentially in the same boat as Everton and Palace in that their chances of EL are slim and it is not worth the risk of serious injury to their players. Arsenal and Wolves would probably vote B, however this isn't as certain as the other option B voting teams. I say this as finishing the season will more than likely have them end up with what they got last season. Of course they may want to chance their arm but if there are already 13-14 teams in favour of A (very likely in my opinion) I cannot see them pushing it as it is more than likely to be a zero sum game for them.
As for promotion/relegation, if UEFA/the leagues pass down a sizable sum, 75% of the clubs in those leagues will accept as they will have no chance of promotion and help them avoid relegation.
If this goes beyound these three weeks, I just do not see the season being completed and we come back in late Aug/Early Sept.
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Meh
This. Simply cancelling the season isn't financially viable. We will soon start seeing tweets suggesting consideration from the FA that the season will played out on an accelerated calendar through July, august if need be. Capitalism has creative ways of recouping its investments
Owners across all sports are pressuring their commissioners to suspend not cancel because they refuse to take the financial hit
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Voiding it takes away value of competition and the importance of games. It would set a dangerous precedent if it was all for nothing. This could come back.
These are serious things to consider but nothing that couldn't easily be worked around in an anomalous situation. About expired contracts and loans, all parties just have to agree to extend the date of expiry to accommodate a new footy calendar. Anything created can be edited. The venues might be a problem but most clubs own their stadiums.The issue isn't that we don't want to finish it. The problem is that footballers and staff are getting infected with this thing. The spread is rapid and serious.
Furthermore, if you manage to get it restarted 2 months later, what happens to players who have contracts expired? Loans that are expired? Same issue with staff.
Would there be any clashes with stadium/venue rentals to other events in the summer? We have to take into account every level of football, not just the premier league.
Its an absolute clusterfeck and just no real way to see it completing. Whether or not they award the title/CL places based on the current standings is another matter.
Somehow I think if put to a vote most would void the season
I'm resigned to Liverpool winning this season barring a huge surprise
I don’t think activity will be stopped until there is ‘no not more Coronavirus’. Life will resume when there’s a greater element of control, and I don’t expect that to take several months.
Footie in the summer sounds great actually, as long as the situation is well contained by then, summers are usually boring sporting wise and i'm not interested in the euros.
The football clubs are not the only ones that will suffer from this, and it will take hell lot of subsidies to help us all. The tourist industry, the export industry, the entertainment industry, the restaurant industry, the transport sector, etc. etc. etc.
A bunch of contracts are up on june, it might get messy. Teams can't enforce the players to add 2 more months to their contracto.
Whole populations going to be infected with Corona, even with 1% mortality we're talking 650k deaths ish in the UK alone over the next few years from this.
Millions in big countries like the US, India etc.
Nothing we can do about it, just slow it down so our hospitals can cope better.
No one going to care about football £££ in that context.
Buckle up.
This would have to happen just as we're getting momentum and confidence 
We can't do anything about it. Just have to hope the virus gets bored and fecks off.
We can't do anything about it. Just have to hope the virus gets bored and fecks off.
Just a quick question on people thinking this will be detrimental for the lower league clubs, can you please enlighten why?. I understand they have to pay the staff without any incoming matchday revenue, is there anything else I am missing?
I imagine they will change things now. It takes tragedy to make people do things differently.
Addressed this a couple posts higher. The teams cant decide it on their own, yes, the players also have to sign off on it or it will become a messy court/arbitration affair. The PFA likely also don't want to lose money from a lost season
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Does there need to be more?
A lot of lower league clubs just about survive on their matchday revenue. You must have seen mentions of clubs struggling when there's been a couple of weather related postponements. Let alone this.
Man, this new reality is hitting hard.
I keep looking at my phone for any sports to watch, but 0.
Going to be a looooong time before we get back to normal. Right now I guess it's just hoping it can be contained and a vaccine found sooner rather than later.
I keep looking at my phone for any sports to watch, but 0.
Going to be a looooong time before we get back to normal. Right now I guess it's just hoping it can be contained and a vaccine found sooner rather than later.
Surely the premier league have an answer for a scenario similar to this?
If war broke out and the country was in lockdown, would we be having a debate over what to do with the end of the season?
Again, the premier league must have a reference to this sort of thing in their policies or agreement with the clubs. They should just publish it and kill off all the speculation.
If war broke out and the country was in lockdown, would we be having a debate over what to do with the end of the season?
Again, the premier league must have a reference to this sort of thing in their policies or agreement with the clubs. They should just publish it and kill off all the speculation.
Oh yes, this one is going straight to the veins!!
That’s the cusp of it, how can they keep paying players when there is no income. A lot of league 1 and league 2 players are on moderate wages compared to their Pl counterparts. Relying on bonuses to boost up their wage packages. These clubs don’t have endless pots of money and neither do the players.
Anything more than two/three months without match day revenue would be catastrophic, which is why there is no chance of sustaining this ‘40 days of night’ style hiding away.
You had that Accrington Stanley billy big bollocks chairman shooting his mouth off about how he’d withdraw his players and how he “hasn’t given up on pensioners”. We’ll see if he feels the same in a few months time when he realises he hasn’t got money to pay his players.
The war breaking out is probably the only thing even close to this before.
But while this virus is pretty serious, we're still able to go about our lives. War literally makes you forget everything else, so mere sport wouldn't have even been a debate.
But on a sporting context this is an absolute nightmare.
We've seen how teams after international breaks, or 2 week breaks have come back quite sluggishly. Imagine how teams will come back if it's a month or more!
Come on you missed a perfect opportunity there.
Then I believe there is a surprise waiting for you in the months to come. The pandemi hasn´t really started yet, and the hardest period is guessed to be between May and August - maybe as long as until October. If life gets back to normal when there is a greater element of control, that greater element of control is immediately lost. That´s the reality.
Feck man, it gives us a stark reminder of the massive challenges those people faced during the two wars and also the sacrifices made by the soldiers. It also shows in comparison how we've become so reliant on things like the supermarket that when a few things go out of stock, the vast majority of people freak out.
This virus is going to get far worse before it gets better. I was amazed at how many people are going on with their lives like this virus isn't going on. After work today I walked past many restaurants, pubs and bars that were completely packed. This is going to get worse before it gets better.
I appreciate the fact war is massively different, my point was only that there would be something the PL would have planned for if football was t possible for whatever reason. We all work at places who have kicked in their BC plans. Surely they have one! Unless they don’t, which would be pretty poor.
Nonsense.