Plea to the board... don't use taxpayers money to furlough staff like Liverpool

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I cannot believe the news that Liverpool are following Spurs and Newcastle in furloughing non-playing staff to cover their wages in this horrendous time for our country and the globe.

What this means is that Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle are going cap in hand to the government to dip into the taxpayer-funded fund, set aside to support companies in trouble, not some of the richest football clubs in the world.

It is an outrage that any Premier League club with such high revenues, AND profit, who are willing to spend stupid sums to their players and to buy them, would ever seek a handout from taxpayers to pay their staff.

And that is why United, if we have an ounce of ethics and kudos about us, should not go down this road. This is bail out money, not a cashpot for profiteers.

I would expect this from the likes of Mike Ashley, but please, Woodward, if you do nothing else positive in your time at the club, do not look at these clubs and think we should do the same.

And my hope is that we come out and say... that this not just wrong... but abhorrent.
 
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You should direct your plea to the club and not the caf.

You're right though, we all hope United don't go down that road.

Also, Scousers gonna scouse.
 

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Its times like this when I hate football.

Every player/staff member/board member etc should just half his wage. It shouldn't even be a voluntary thing it should just happen automatically considering there all just say at home like everyone else.

There's not 1 player in the premier league that wont be able to have a very good standard of living still if their wages half.

Government should just tell people like the billionaire Ashley to feck off.
 

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Hope so too, but Woody loves to please the Glazers, hope they don't, but can sadly see it happening.
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To be honest from a shareholder's perspective you're looking at this and thinking Liverpool have now got a monetary advantage going into next season. Why wouldn't do the same to keep up.

But that's why most football owners are a bunch of cnuts

Every player/staff member/board member etc should just half his wage. It shouldn't even be a voluntary thing it should just happen automatically considering there all just say at home like everyone else.
Not sure why it's fair that the canteen staff should have their wages cut in half. Most likely they need their full salary more so.
 

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Would be upset as hell if we did this. Sadly we're so damn corporate it wouldn't surprise me but I truly hope not.

Personally, if I earned what those executives do and also what the footballers earn, I'd putting aside a fair sum of my salary to go towards the non playing staff. It's not like it would be forever, and how much money do they really all need?
 

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Personally, if I earned what those executives do and also what the footballers earn, I'd putting aside a fair sum of my salary to go towards the non playing staff. It's not like it would be forever, and how much money do they really all need?
There is a strong argument that the players should take cuts but the money should go back to the non-playing staff. However I don't think that really works for top clubs, the money is already there. Take Liverpool as an example, why should the millionaire footballers be told to carry the can for the billionaire owner?
 

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Newcastle I expected it with the person who owns the club
 

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They should have put some conditions on this, like you cant claim it if you post a profit this year. So many companies are taking the piss with it not just football clubs.
 

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Isn’t Harry Maguire trying to get teammates to donate or take pay cuts to support the staff income?
 

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There is a strong argument that the players should take cuts but the money should go back to the non-playing staff. However I don't think that really works for top clubs, the money is already there. Take Liverpool as an example, why should the millionaire footballers be told to carry the can for the billionaire owner?
I'm not sure about asking them to take cuts unless it's a small club. Can't believe premier league clubs can't pay their staff for a few months more.
I would rather the players be encouraged to donate to the NHS, or set up a fund for those who've lost jobs, are self employed, helping the homeless..... things like that.

Our club really should be paying our non playing staff. The executives and owner can donate some of their salary or whatever.

Either way I don;t care as long as we don't go the route of delving into taxpayers money and such.

For the players, it is a decision for them. If I were in their position, like I said almost all my salary would go to supporting the above. Unless the club is in trouble and then we need to help non playing staff.
 

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Isn’t Harry Maguire trying to get teammates to donate or take pay cuts to support the staff income?
Just read in the other thread they've agreed to give to charity? Not sure.
 

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There is a strong argument that the players should take cuts but the money should go back to the non-playing staff. However I don't think that really works for top clubs, the money is already there. Take Liverpool as an example, why should the millionaire footballers be told to carry the can for the billionaire owner?
It’s the absolutely correct, but from the business point of view, the owner will see themselves and their money as a separate entity to the business, whereas the players wages are a part of it. What they take however also is, and I’m sure it could be well justified to come from there.
 

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Isn’t Harry Maguire trying to get teammates to donate or take pay cuts to support the staff income?
Maguire is leading United players towards donating 30% of their after-tax salary, not a pay cut. United themselves have confirmed they'll be paying their casual staff for the season and pay them again if the games are played in a later date. I'm not exactly sure what they mean by "casual staff" though.
 

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I cannot believe the news that Liverpool are following Spurs and Newcastle in furloughing non-playing staff to cover their wages in this horrendous time for our country and the globe.

What this means is that Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle are going cap in hand to the government to dip into the taxpayer-funded fund, set aside to support companies in trouble, not some of the richest football clubs in the world.

It is an outrage that any Premier League club with such high revenues, AND profit, who are willing to spend stupid sums to their players and to buy them, would ever seek a handout from taxpayers to pay their staff.

And that is why United, if we have an ounce of ethics and kudos about us, should not go down this road. This is bail out money, not a cashpot for profiteers.

I would expect this from the likes of Mike Ashley, but please, Woodward, if you do nothing else positive in your time at the club, do not look at these clubs and think we should do the same.

And my hope is that we come out and say... that this not just wrong... but abhorrent.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51967328

The board have heard your plea. Great work.
 

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Man Utd is publicly listed and needs to do whatever is best for its shareholders.
 

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Liverpool and spurs are wankers for doing it. But who is shocked at Newcastle - Mike Ashley is just an awful owner.
 

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Yeah I think so, think this is designed to cover the lower paid staff who recieve under 2.5k a month which fits with the legislation. Pathetic stuff.
Why is that? it's good they're covering the lower paid staff as well?
 

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I still blame the government for creating the loophole. Businesses have been looking for loopholes in legislations since the beginning of government.

It stinks (especially when im not entitled to any help while premier league clubs are ), but I see every club looking at it
The government made us do it. It's not our fault. Really, it's not.
 

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If Man Utd do it and then go on to sign Jadon Sancho for what will be presumably a British transfer record there will be a public outrage and rightly so. How can any club not pay their staff and then drop 50-60 million on a couple of players few months later. That 50-60 million would probably cover most of lower end payed staff for decades. It's not right. This goes beyond football.
 

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Even if they backtrack, theyve shown their hand. Pretty sickening when you think the money agents take out of the game aswell
 

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Sickening from all the Prem clubs utilising the furlough scheme. I will be genuinely and quite deeply upset if Utd follow suit.
 

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If Man Utd do it and then go on to sign Jadon Sancho for what will be presumably a British transfer record there will be a public outrage and rightly so. How can any club not pay their staff and then drop 50-60 million on a couple of players few months later. That 50-60 million would probably cover most of lower end payed staff for decades. It's not right. This goes beyond football.
Quite so. Good post. How can any right-thinking person feel otherwise.
 

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We won’t, because the small financial savings we make wouldn’t be worth the negative PR.
 

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I think all the clubs should Furlough their players. Let the government pay them £2500 a month with no top up