SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[Hansa]

First of all, let's hope Boris will turn out fine. There's a good chance he's been admitted way earlier than other patients, just to make absolutely sure of his recovery.

Had way too much time on my hands last night, and compiled a little statistic from the numbers at Worldometers. This one looks at the number of tests needed to find a positive case in each country, and highlights a few countries flying below the radar, where there might be a significant percentage of undiscovered cases, and where the testing capabilites might be way lower than required to keep things under control. I've just included countries with more than 1.000 confirmed cases. China and Saudi Arabia have incomplete data and are not included.

France: 2.4
Algeria: 2.5
Dominican Republic: 2.6
Spain: 2.7
Iran: 3.2
Ecuador: 3.4
Belgium: 3.7
Serbia: 3.8
UK: 4.1
Ukraine: 4.2
Indonesia: 4.3
Netherlands: 4.4
Morocco: 4.7
Brazil: 4.9
Panama: 5.1
USA: 5.2 (New York 2.5, New Jersey 2.2, Michigan 2.6, Louisiana 4.6, California 8.0)
Italy 5.4
Sweden: 5.4 (Probably closer to 8 or thereabouts, but their number of performed tests hasn't been updated for a while)
Argentina: 5.8
Ireland: 6.0
Philippines: 6.0
Turkey: 6.7
Switzerland: 7.5
Portugal: 7.8
Mexico: 8.3
Luxembourg: 8.4
Peru: 8.5
Austria: 9.0
Germany 9.2
Croatia: 9.2

>10: Romania, Canada, South Korea, Israel, Norway, Australia, Russia, Czechia, Chile, Denmark, Poland, Malaysia, India, Pakistan, Japan, Thailand, Finland, United Arab Emirates, Greece, South Africa, Qatar, Iceland, Colombia, Singapore, Egypt, Estonia, New Zealand

 

[Paxi]

Was posted yesterday Maxi, what an absolute weapon.

Aye complete fecking moron.

 

[Paxi]

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[FrankDrebin]

TX Woman Dies Of COVID After Posting Facebook Rant: “You Don’t Need Sanitizer, You Need Faith And Guns”

https://www.joemygod.com/2020/04/tx...-dont-need-sanitizer-you-need-faith-and-guns/

Dont be like Karen.

 

[Sarni]

It is. Unfortunately everybody knew this would happen.

Witnessing this first hand in my building. Started two days after lockdown was introduced when I had to break up a fight between a guy and his wife, they've basically been arguing for the last 3 weeks. Police have intervened twice already but it doesn't stop.

 

[horsechoker]

TX Woman Dies Of COVID After Posting Facebook Rant: “You Don’t Need Sanitizer, You Need Faith And Guns”

https://www.joemygod.com/2020/04/tx...-dont-need-sanitizer-you-need-faith-and-guns/

What was she gonna do? Shoot the virus?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Witnessing this first hand in my building. Started two days after lockdown was introduced when I had to break up a fight between a guy and his wife, they've basically been arguing for the last 3 weeks. Police have intervened twice already but it doesn't stop.

Unfortunately this will highlight the relationships that were under a bit of a strain beforehand.

 

[Grinner]

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I thought you only go to hospital with breathing problems?

 

[BootsyCollins]

My wife got Diabetes type 1.
Today i saw a note in a swedish paper reporting that amongst the deaths in Italy, there was zero cases with type 1.
So now they have updated the riskgroups to only involve people with type 2 diabetes.

Anybody here can point me in the direction of more info around this?

 

[Port Vale Devil]

Boris is receiving oxygen treatment.

 

[Penna]

Boris is receiving oxygen treatment.

Source please?

 

[The Firestarter]

Boris is receiving oxygen treatment.

But not on ventilator ?

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

My wife got Diabetes type 1.
Today i saw a note in a swedish paper reporting that amongst the deaths in Italy, there was zero cases with type 1.
So now they have updated the riskgroups to only involve people with type 2 diabetes.

Anybody here can point me in the direction of more info around this?

Yeah, missus brother has type 1 so we were delighted when we read aftonbladet this morning.

 

[Port Vale Devil]

Source please?

Popped up on my Daily Mail news app.

 

[JPRouve]

Source please?

https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/c...ronavirus-symptoms-tests-aides-worried-2020-4

 

[Port Vale Devil]

But not on ventilator ?

Said nothing about a ventilator.

 

[duffer]

Source please?

It's just the Daily Mail's hyperbolic headline to yesterdays news. There's no update on Boris since then.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52157824

How tragic, follows Trump in believing it was overhyped by democrat media, goes to Madri Gras, gets infected, dies; and missus stills blames media on “both sides”.

The mind fecking boggles with this Trump cult.

 

[Pexbo]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52157824

How tragic, follows Trump in believing it was overhyped by democrat media, goes to Madri Gras, gets infected, dies; and missus stills blames media on “both sides”.

The mind fecking boggles with this Trump cult.

Definitely not an isolated case and Fox News are preparing for a huge class action lawsuit which could be particularly bad for them and Trump if discovery uncovers that despite having all the information of how bad this was going to be, they still lied to the public about it being a democratic hoax that would blow over.

Expect a lot of Trump’s correspondence with Hannity to be protected under executive privilege.

 

[Smores]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52157824

How tragic, follows Trump in believing it was overhyped by democrat media, goes to Madri Gras, gets infected, dies; and missus stills blames media on “both sides”.

The mind fecking boggles with this Trump cult.

Its just the political rights playbook, they muddy the water calling everything partisan and their voters fall for it. It's been the same in the UK with Brexit.

Not sure i like the gotcha calling out of individuals like this though. Arguably it serves a purpose to convince others but it feels very callous

 

[Hansa]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52157824

How tragic, follows Trump in believing it was overhyped by democrat media, goes to Madri Gras, gets infected, dies; and missus stills blames media on “both sides”.

The mind fecking boggles with this Trump cult.

Trump is just utilizing and nurturing the emotions which have been present for decades, though, probably all the way back to the "Moral Majority" movement of the late 70s. The trenches have been well and truly dug since then.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Arguably it serves a purpose to convince others but it feels very callous

I think it’s serves an important purpose for people to use their own common sense and not blindly follow a leader or their favorite choice of media.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Boris is the gender, age and dimensions where hypertension and type 2 diabetes often start to surface.

 

[Jippy]

So it's not just the UK that loves a ropey WWII analogy.

However, Andrew Cuomo, the state’s governor, warned it was too soon to tell if the number of cases had peaked in New York. The US surgeon general earlier warned that the coming weeks would prove to be “our Pearl Harbor”.

https://www.ft.com/content/6b9a51ea-7cfa-449e-8dc9-635d33a197e8

 

[Grinner]

I don't see Boris going to hospital unless he has breathing problems. I reckon he's in real trouble here. They haven't revealed the hospital because they know that journos will be down there doing anything to find out what's going on.

I think the gov. need to level with us all and not cover this up.

 

[Fully Fledged]

Where is Keir Stamer in the ladder of PM?

He's at the top of a different ladder that is in no way connected to the one for the PM.

 

[Wolverine]

I don't see Boris going to hospital unless he has breathing problems. I reckon he's in real trouble here. They haven't revealed the hospital because they know that journos will be down there doing anything to find out what's going on.

I think the gov. need to level with us all and not cover this up.

The main things will be a CT scan and possibly an arterial blood gas for which being in hospital might be needed. And that can be "precautionary". If they don't see any superadded bacterial infection and his saturations on room air are fine then he may be discharged quickly. Difficult to speculate either way really.
Rest of the bloods can be done by any phlebotomist at home with results sent to a lab.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Boris is the gender, age and dimensions where hypertension and type 2 diabetes often start to surface.

I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately it won't be long before the tabloids get a sniff of the details and make a circus outside the hospital.

 

[JPRouve]

I don't see Boris going to hospital unless he has breathing problems. I reckon he's in real trouble here. They haven't revealed the hospital because they know that journos will be down there doing anything to find out what's going on.

I think the gov. need to level with us all and not cover this up.

I have read that he was a St Thomas.

 

[Pagh Wraith]

Austria reopening all shops up to 400m² on 14 Apr, shopping centres following 1 May, restaurants and bars mid-May at the earliest.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Austria reopening all shops up to 400m² on 14 Apr, shopping centres following 1 May, restaurants and bars mid-May at the earliest.

Great news that.

 

[Skills]

Austria reopening all shops up to 400m² on 14 Apr, shopping centres following 1 May, restaurants and bars mid-May at the earliest.

What's the testing capacity like in Austria at the moment?

It's a fairly large country and quite sparsely populated. They should be fine

 

[Skills]

Potentially 14 days of no symptoms is what's fecking us up. Even 5 days is quite a long incubation period.

 

[Pagh Wraith]

What's the testing capacity like in Austria at the moment?

110,000 total so far.

 

[FrankDrebin]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52157824

How tragic, follows Trump in believing it was overhyped by democrat media, goes to Madri Gras, gets infected, dies; and missus stills blames media on “both sides”.

The mind fecking boggles with this Trump cult.

I just don't have any sympathy for them.

When Trump openly mocked that handicapped journalist in 2016 and his religious supporters still set-out in their droves and voted for him, that in itself showed their true 'good Christian' colours.

F*ck them.

 

[Skills]

110,000 total so far.

I reckon if countries can have a testing capacity of about 1% of your population per week, you can can be successful at testing and contact tracing. It's a lot of work though but definitely more preferable/cheaper than another shut down.

I don't mean randomly testing but targeted testing coupled with systematically testing where large groups gather (schools, offices, production sites etc).

 

[SAred]

I just don't have any sympathy for them.

When Trump openly mocked that handicapped journalist in 2016 and his religious supporters still set-out in their droves and voted for him, that in itself showed their true 'good Christian' colours.

F*ck them.

Agreed this name calling is not cool, hell Trump himself has had his fair share from the liberals and of coarse CNN. But agreed it must stop from all sides, people calling him the orange buffoon and all terrible really this name calling needs to stop.

 

[Wumminator]

Agreed this name calling is not cool, hell Trump himself has had his fair share from the liberals and of coarse CNN. But agreed it must stop from all sides, people calling him the orange buffoon and all terrible really this name calling needs to stop.

He’s a fecking prick.

 

[11101]

The hospital hosting Boris is still as yet unnamed. We just know it's an NHS hospital.

Of course. Private hospitals don't have all the specialist equipment. He'll probably be at Barts or St Thomas.

My wife got Diabetes type 1.
Today i saw a note in a swedish paper reporting that amongst the deaths in Italy, there was zero cases with type 1.
So now they have updated the riskgroups to only involve people with type 2 diabetes.

Anybody here can point me in the direction of more info around this?

You can keep yourself up to date here. This is the only properly verified source for specific details of Italian cases.

The latest report does only include Type 2 diabetes in the pre-existing conditions list so you could be right.

 

[SAred]

But but how can you use names to call someone but get pissed when he calls someone, look lets all stop the name calling and walk hand in hand we have a world crisis on our hands. Pity the Dem's let the Chinese make all there protective gear not cool.