Well that's typical. But props for trying though. If I'm being honest, I would've been more critical if they did work and we found ourselves at the back of the queue to get our hands on them.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
i'm pretty sure we won't be paying for tests that don't work. not even Hancock is that stupid.
Because they're desperate.
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You'd hope they tested a batch before ordering the full amount, maybe they did but there's a huge bidding race worldwide to get anything.
He is doing a COVID update daily. As things get better they will transform more into rally speeches. Republicans can even enact more voting shenanigans or postpone the election entirely. I know the last part is unlikely but you never know with Turtle and Trump. In short nothing is going to hurt him, he is bulletproof.
Sounds like they work. They just don't do what we need them to do. And the discepenacy between the two scenarios is quite large
So my question is why didn't MoH know that before ordering them?!
Do you think MoH is ordering everything it can lay its hands on, and just hoping something sticks? Sounds shambolic.
Why not just copy what Germany has used?
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Once this is all over and the inevitably inquiry occurs into the handling of Covia 19, the mess up over all aspects of testing will be pretty easy to flag up.
A bit. It's kind of like a boxer being on the back foot all fight, realises he's about to lose so is desperately hoping to land a haymaker.
Germany are doing the standard tests. But they've been increasing their testing capacity for a long time now (compared to us). They're kind of like the fighter who's constantly been jabbing away, keeping them in the fight.
All Trump talk to the appropriate thread now please.
So there is only a narrow window to do antibodies testing for someone who is in quarantine waiting to go back to work?Antibody concentration decreases over time from what I know. But the more often you get exposed to it, the higher concentration remains
Yeah, I don't fault the buying of them, but they were presented as being ready within weeks to show they were taking action, which was dumb.
Also, glad to see that Whitty has recovered
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Turns out Britain can't just take it on the chin.
It was obvious at the time that the press conference where they called them game changers was all bluster. It just didn't match up with what was being said at the committee briefings at the time, another example of the likes of Vallance following a government spin line in the public briefings. Someone probably made a nice chunk of money off the market response to that.
Anyway as someone above said at least they're trying. I won't criticise proactive behaviour too much.
Anyway as someone above said at least they're trying. I won't criticise proactive behaviour too much.
Germany is expected to follow Austria in loosening some restrictions. According to an internal paper, the government is planning to reopen the retail sector, restaurants and in some regions schools as well. The earlierst possible date for this would be 20 April. Prerequisite for this is that the infection rate stays below 1. Merkel is holding a press conference later so maybe some of this will be announced.
Depends on how good your test is, right? If it relies on a high concentration on antibodies being present then yes. If it's still capable of detecting lower concentrations, then you're fine.
But once you do have the antibodies, you don't necessarily need to worry about your immunity at least for the short-medium future. Your immune system is quite efficient.
He called this a Democratic Hoax, doing campaign rallies & Golfing until Mid March.Never said he was prefect but lets look at the figures on the ground shall we, lets start with umemployment, lets add to that pulling out troops from hotspots around the world that the lefties agenda started, lets talk about moving American manufacturing all over the world while depriving people in the heartland of good honest jobs. The list goes on. Hell but the lefty media thinks all Trump supporters feck their sistersThe Irony on calling names is lost on some.
He literally is playing with lives by putting states that are 'nice to him' to the top of the list while fecking over New york because the Governor has a difference of opinion.
In times like this Countries need to unify to stand together and put differences aside. He is the least likely to do that, the evidence is there, one speech is enough for those with a hint of common sense to come to the conclusion that Trumps a fecking moron. How on earth do you bankrupt a casino.
His handling of this has been dreadful. I'd take Boris and his goonies any day of the week. Only Bolsonara of Brazil and that guy of Belarus have handled this crisis worse.
Excellent news re: Austria and Germany. Obviously, not all countries will be following suit in exactly the same way but it's good to see countries getting on top of the situation and having a well-informed, positive outlook for the near future. Hoping we all start seeing light at the end of our own tunnels over the next few weeks.
I think that one of the few pluses that will come out of this tragedy is that countries will realise that some manufacturing simply cannot be farmed out. Globalisation has drawbacks. I can see that in the U.K. we will up our game on testing labs for example and not rely so heavily on Roche in Germany. Similarly I think we will home produce our masks. On reflection that the NHS was buying virtually its entire annual stock from a French company is ridiculous particularly when as happened the French government understandable requisitioned the entire production including a large order destined for the U.K.
Not being critical of any country that looks after its own first as has happened but nations cannot be so dependant on accessing resources from outside their own borders when the world is clamouring for them.
Hopefully as well we will at last take a long look at the NHS and crucially including social care provision and levy an adequate tax rate on all of us.
Is it me, or does opening retail shops and restaurants in Germany and Austria seem really soon? I mean, there are still 150+ daily deaths in Germany, and 4000+ new cases. I can understand this will drop down in the next few weeks, but making comitments like that seems... early.
They're still going to be some of the last things to open. I think they'll only open them up once they believe their testing capacity is enough to manage the infection within the community.
There's still time to go between now and when they've committed, which they can use to observe the change & see if they might need to extend it a bit.
Yeah it does a bit but it's not set in stone, if things look iffy they can put the date back a bit and play it by ear and continue to use social distancing measures.
No, SARS was 2002-2004. Firmly in the GW Bush years.
Next you'll be pointing out how poorly Obama handled 9/11.
The current environment makes it easier for people to become healthy. Not less. Better diet. Lose weight. Exercise. Fewer work stresses. All upsides. Obviously there are negatives but people should be able to get physically healthier right now.
It comes down to testing I think (which is what SK showed months ago). The more you can test, the more informed decision making you can make.
A friend of mine just got tested in Germany a few days ago. Turns out one of her colleagues had it, and someone just turned up at her door to test her. She didn't even know.
Edit: funnily enough she was complaining they didn't swab her throat. They just got her to swab her cheers and her nose.
This seems totally and utterly out of touch with reality for most people.
Let's wait for official announcements with regards to Germany. But the curves look very promising.
Austria seem to have handled this very well. They've had more recoveries than new infections for the last two days now. As Virologists have pointed out, there is little to no evidence of people getting infected at the hairdresser's so it makes sense to reopen these type of businesses fairly soon again instead of risking ruining them.
On the other hand, there won't be any mass events happening anytime soon. In Austria's case, chancellor Kurz has ruled out festivals, concerts and such for the next three months.
There's no way the average diet has improved. Lots of people are ordering takeaways and buying processed foods that can last them for a few weeks. It's a lot harder to eat fresh foods on a daily basis than it used to be.
And in terms of exercise, closing the gyms has made getting fit a lot harder. Speaking personally, I normally walk to work everyday. Since the lockdown, I'm also losing out on several miles per day.
my understanding is that we have only paid for the ones that were tested. given they didn't live up to expectations, the order won't go ahead. think this is just clickbait journalism.
The official numbers, that were published this morning were 92 new deaths and 3677 new cases. I'm sure that those numbers are lower because the reporting on the weekend usually is slower and the numbers of new cases is always lower on the weekend. Probably because not all laboratories work at full capacity on the weekend. But the graph for the last week along with the new numbers today is certainly promising.
The official German dashboard gives you a more detailed graph for the daily number of cases. It dates them back to the day of the diagnosis and not adds them for the day they were reported. So it gives you a better impression for the development. You'll find it on the bottom right here: https://corona.rki.de/ . The blue bars are the numbers from yesterday, the yellow ones the newly added ones today. The bars for last week are still a bit higher than the week before and we'll see a few cases added to it once all results come in the next days, but the rise has certainly slowed down a lot and there's a good chance we see it plateau or maybe even decrease this week.
I agree though that it's too early to make comitments now and I'd be surprised if Merkel did that today. From what you can read in the media, we should expect strict measures for people entering the country and more controls at all borders. Maybe we get to hear a bit about a possible plan for opening up the country, but I think it's unlikely and I'm certain she won't announce a fixed date.
It’s definitely not. If nothing else, this situation has gifted people time they never had.
If that time is spent preparing lower calorie nutritious food, with 30-60 minutes of aerobic exercise or Calisthenics, added to more sleep, that’s a formula for health.
I’m not even remotely suggesting the situation is a net positive in all metrics of life. But anyone complaining about it being physically unhealthy is short sighted.
Thanks for the information! The curve seems to be hitting a plateau in a lot of countries who issued some kind of a lockdown or restrictions couple of weeks ago. Encouraging.
Apologies if this has been posted already:
Europe prepares to ease coronavirus lockdowns
Expert committees examining gradual easing of stay-at-home orders in several EU states
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...DNIFn4an3WsufHhPxF5hZSxfhikJvXzFHsIWGo688PaCE
Europe prepares to ease coronavirus lockdowns
Expert committees examining gradual easing of stay-at-home orders in several EU states
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...DNIFn4an3WsufHhPxF5hZSxfhikJvXzFHsIWGo688PaCE
YOUR diet hasn’t improved. Mine has. My neighbours has. My colleagues diets have. I’m not in contact with a single person who’s eating worse.
Also : Why the Fcuk are people ordering takeaways?!? They cost a fortune and you’re inviting contamination risk into your life.
Closing Gyms hasn’t made getting fit harder. It’s shut down an avenue that many took. You can get just as fit in 1-2 square metres at home as you can in a gym. People just need to be more inventive.
Because it cheers people up
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"BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany has drawn up a list of measures, including an obligation to wear masks in public, limits on public gatherings and the rapid tracing of infection chains, that officials think should allow life to return to normal after lockdown’s scheduled end on April 19.
The proposals, contained in a draft action plan compilied by the Interior Ministry document and seen by Reuters on Monday, say the measures should be sufficient to keep the number of people infected by each person below 1 even as public life is allowed gradually to resume.
For this to be possible, mechanisms will have to be in place to track more than 80% of people an infected person had contact with within 24 hours of diagnosis. In return, schools will be able to reopen on a regional basis and strict border controls will be relaxed, the paper said."
Anybody know the situation regarding sick pay for self-isolation? Step son has mild symptoms so me and his mother will be self isolating for 14 days. Our company has sick pay after the first week, we should receive this right?
First week statutory sick pay then standard company sick pay afterwards?
First week statutory sick pay then standard company sick pay afterwards?
I’m ordering a lot of takeaways. Maybe not a lot but 3-4 times a week. It’s partly because I’m used to eating out and partly because I want to support businesses that are struggling currently. I don’t think contamination risk is really above average for takeaway orders either compared to what my other regular activities like grocery shopping or walking a dog.
It might be true for the healthiest, richest, best educated 5%, 10% at most. People definitely are not less stressed, that is really weird comment to make. For myself all of the things you said, might be true. For an average person, no chance. Many individuals maybe should not use this as an excuse, but the population will be unhealthier because of this situation.