Sandro Tonali | Signs for Newcastle

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I think Tonali would prefer a move to Juve and that will prove to be decisive in the end. If Juve want him, then I see them getting him over a foreign club.
 

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I think Tonali would prefer a move to Juve and that will prove to be decisive in the end. If Juve want him, then I see them getting him over a foreign club.
Juve are so stacked in midfield, it's crazy.. unless they dump 2 of the Can, Bentancur, Khedira trio.
 

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Too bad there are no more rumors about him. He's a fantastic player. And he would be the first name on the teamsheet whenever available, would be great for his further progress.
 

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Juve are so stacked in midfield, it's crazy.. unless they dump 2 of the Can, Bentancur, Khedira trio.
I don't watch Juve week to week so maybe I'm wrong, but based on probably 15-20 watches over the last couple years I'd love to see us sign Bentancur.
 

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Too bad there are no more rumors about him. He's a fantastic player. And he would be the first name on the teamsheet whenever available, would be great for his further progress.
Yeah, I agree. Wouldn't be surprised if he's already destined to join Juve/Milan/Inter. But yes, he's the type of player we should be looking at.
 

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No chance he comes to the EPL. He will play for Inter, Juve, AC, then Juve again.
 

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EPL would surely toughen him up. And he would be playing reularly with us. I really believe it would be great for his development. And if it doesn't work out, he can still leave in couple of years and he'd still only be 21 or so.
 

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He’s the type of player we should be targeting, not so much Van De Beek in my opinion.
 

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Would've been surprised if he were to move out of Italy at his age.
 

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Tonali is a very talented playmaker, but i think that he wouldn't help Manchester United to regain its shine.

He is at his first year in Serie A, he still needs more experience in his country.

For an italian boy it isn't easy to settle in a foreign country with a differnt kind of football: look at Kean, he looked promising but leaved Italy too early and now he is struggling at Everton.
Fair post
 

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Why's that? Not arguing, just curious as to the reasoning.
Because VDB isn’t a ‘proper midfielder’ to me, and because he’s often the last player involved in a move, mat paper over the cracks. What we need most is a player who gets involved in actual ‘midfielding’ - tackling, circulating possession, helping defence l, helping forwards etc. Most of that stuff is typically happening 10/15 yards behind Donny van de Beek.

Also, all these 10s we are linked to, Jack this, James that etc - of our current midfield, they are closest in role to the only top class one we already have. I feel the team will be far better served by replacing one of the two who are below that class than fixating on adding another sole creator/scorer. If Pogba does leave, then by all means, add another as a priority, but for now - with all of our midfielders fit, our midfield isn’t good enough, and the only one who is would be the creative midfielder.

Tonali is a passer, tackler, dribbler and presser. With more talent than the ones we have. I’d favour a move for him over a 10, as it would be a potential step towards improving our starting XI in our weakest area. We’re not even at the luxury yet to be signing for cover/competition.
 

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We should be targeting both.
We shouldn’t be targeting VDB at all in my opinion, I don’t think he’s all that, but if he were signed alongside a more conventional ‘midfielder’, I’d have less issue for sure.
 

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We shouldn’t be targeting VDB at all in my opinion, I don’t think he’s all that, but if he were signed alongside a more conventional ‘midfielder’, I’d have less issue for sure.
I disagree, I think he's a driven player who takes responsibility, in a footballing sense he's a big prospect too and will only improve. He'd improve us no doubt. But Tonali would plug a more gaping whole in our team for sure. Alas, VDB doesn't want a move in January and Tonali is off to a big club in Italy.
 

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Fabrizio Romano says that Brescia will have to sell him in the summer and will not be able to command €50/€60m for him due to the current issues faced.

Romano thinks a offer of €30m will be enough to sign him.
 
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Fabrizio Romano says that Brescia will have to sell him in the summer and will not be able to command €50/€60m for him due to the current issues faced.

Romano thinks a offer of €30m will be enough to sign him.
We haven't been linked with him and we can't sign everyone anyways, plus I don't think he fits our squad. Really like him as a player though, hope he goes somewhere where he'll get playing time
 

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We haven't been linked with him and we can't sign everyone anyways, plus I don't think he fits our squad. Really like him as a player though, hope he goes somewhere where he'll get playing time
If Newcastle are smart and run well with their new wealth, they could make some serious deals this summer (I'm sure they could offer some crazy money to players to convince them) and the likes of Tonali, Chiesa et al should be the type of signings they should be looking to make rather than the Bale and James types the press are linking them with.
 

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Potential to be a superstar but like others have said he will go to Juve possibly in the summer .
 

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I think this could be the opportunity Ole was talking about when he said we need to be ready to 'exploit' if something comes up. Romano is saying he will be sold for €30m due to the financial constraints due to the pandemic.

We need a midfielder who can orchestrate from a deeper role IMO and Tonali looks a very good fit potentially and would be a better buy in comparison to Jack Grealish who would be a squad upgrade rather than a first 11 upgrade.

It will also depend on how Juve set their strategy in these difficult times. Will they see Tonali as someone they must sign? If they do, then I feel they have the upper hand.
 

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I think this could be the opportunity Ole was talking about when he said we need to be ready to 'exploit' if something comes up. Romano is saying he will be sold for €30m due to the financial constraints due to the pandemic.

We need a midfielder who can orchestrate from a deeper role IMO and Tonali looks a very good fit potentially and would be a better buy in comparison to Jack Grealish who would be a squad upgrade rather than a first 11 upgrade.

It will also depend on how Juve set their strategy in these difficult times. Will they see Tonali as someone they must sign? If they do, then I feel they have the upper hand.
Agreed, the Grealish thing makes no sense for us, you can't start building your depth beofre you've sorted your first 11 unless you are willing to spend like 2009 Real Madrid. We have two good all round Jack of all trades CM's in Fred and McTominay, the kind of workhorse CM's most teams have, what we lack is a cultured CM that as you say can orchestrate from deep and get the ball through the lines regularly and accurately to the wide players and Bruno, Matic is the closest thing we have and he's not great, plus he's physically very limited and will be 32 when the season starts.
 

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Juve all over him..
Romano said earlier that Juve have been working on a deal for the past year to sign Federico Chiesa and also want to sign Pogba.

I think a opportunity may open up to sign Tonali possibly.
 

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From Romano’s interview, Juve basically want to sign Tonali, Pogba, Arthur and Chiesa. Probably more players will be mentioned too. Because, well, Italian football. Each team must add at least 7 players per window. No chance Juve land all of those though I suspect.
 

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From Romano’s interview, Juve basically want to sign Tonali, Pogba, Arthur and Chiesa. Probably more players will be mentioned too. Because, well, Italian football. Each team must add at least 7 players per window. No chance Juve land all of those though I suspect.
Jesus, land of the CMs, that's another 3 to what they have. Insane considering they still have Ramsey on huge wages.
 

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Jesus, land of the CMs, that's another 3 to what they have. Insane considering they still have Ramsey on huge wages.
They will probably look to let a couple go.

That said, I’m convinced Italian clubs just sign players for the sake of it at this point. I thought people in this country were transfer obsessed, however, Serie A is another level. If they don’t have money, they will swap them. If they have no money or swaps to offer, they will buy half of a player. They are just constantly doing deals.
 

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I don't watch Juve week to week so maybe I'm wrong, but based on probably 15-20 watches over the last couple years I'd love to see us sign Bentancur.
I agree and didnt realise he is still only 22
 

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Agreed, the Grealish thing makes no sense for us, you can't start building your depth beofre you've sorted your first 11 unless you are willing to spend like 2009 Real Madrid. We have two good all round Jack of all trades CM's in Fred and McTominay, the kind of workhorse CM's most teams have, what we lack is a cultured CM that as you say can orchestrate from deep and get the ball through the lines regularly and accurately to the wide players and Bruno, Matic is the closest thing we have and he's not great, plus he's physically very limited and will be 32 when the season starts.
We did that Daniel James though. I also think it's more of a case of signing him because he's available. I mean in the end we're going to need a rotational AM so when one that matches Ole's criteria becomes available we would jump on it. Morever a rotational AM should be one of the priorities after RW and ST and we've already been linked strongly with Sancho for RW and gotten Ighalo on loan for ST
 

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We did that Daniel James though. I also think it's more of a case of signing him because he's available. I mean in the end we're going to need a rotational AM so when one that matches Ole's criteria becomes available we would jump on it. Morever a rotational AM should be one of the priorities after RW and ST and we've already been linked strongly with Sancho for RW and gotten Ighalo on loan for ST
Daniel James only cost £15M and we got him in because we couldn't get Sancho done so we had the financial room to just add depth, Grealish will cost at least 3 times that and I think once we've laid down £120M for Sancho the priority neeeds to be a proper CM addition, not another AM when we'll still have Mata and Sancho could ease over into that role if needed and we could give Gomes some chances there. In my view Grealish should only be considered if he's in addition to Sancho, a CM and a back-up Striker.
 

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Fabrizio Romano says that Brescia will have to sell him in the summer and will not be able to command €50/€60m for him due to the current issues faced.

Romano thinks a offer of €30m will be enough to sign him.
Romano also thinks he'll go to an Italian club like Juve or one of the Milans; because nearly all Italian players stay in Italy.
 

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Jesus, land of the CMs, that's another 3 to what they have. Insane considering they still have Ramsey on huge wages.
Can has gone to Dortmund
Khedera is 33 and his contract expires in 2021
Matudi is 33 and his contract expires in 2021

That leaves them with
Pjanic who is 30 and contracted till 2023
Ramsey who is 29 and contracted till 2023
Rabiot who is 25 and contracted till 2023
Betancur who is 22 and contracted till 2024

So adding Tonali who I think is about to turn 21 presumably on a contract till 2025 seems a good move

They could possibly add another versatile cheap (fee) midfielder ffor extra strength in depth if they have lost Can, Khedera and Matudi in a year as well

But not overly stacked in terms of numbers if they get one or even two more central midfielders
 

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Daniel James only cost £15M and we got him in because we couldn't get Sancho done so we had the financial room to just add depth, Grealish will cost at least 3 times that and I think once we've laid down £120M for Sancho the priority neeeds to be a proper CM addition, not another AM when we'll still have Mata and Sancho could ease over into that role if needed and we could give Gomes some chances there. In my view Grealish should only be considered if he's in addition to Sancho, a CM and a back-up Striker.
So what CM do you have in mind?
 
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